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Oh gosh it’s gotta be nearing 300k
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I read a report from a Ford rep the stated that they had 100,000 firm orders to date, not sure how accurate that is, but it is a heck of a lot of orders for a vehicle that isn't even in consumers hands yet.
 

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I have not converted my reservation into an order since I was informed by Ford my vehicle was already placed in the MY22 slot. I was told to wait until the 22 options, colors etc are announced and then order. I was told my place in the “ mysterious “ line will be maintained.
Any idea when the MY22 options will be released?
 

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Any idea when the MY22 options will be released?
No, but MY22 change over will occur in early December, so they'll need enough lead time for all of us to update our leftover orders to the MY22 options, and have them in the queue early enough to schedule and start production right away in mid December.

My money is sometime in the late Fall, when the last of the MY21 orders have have all been scheduled so those people are locked into their builds when the MY22 options announced.
 

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No, but MY22 change over will occur in early December, so they'll need enough lead time for all of us to update our leftover orders to the MY22 options, and have them in the queue early enough to schedule and start production right away in mid December.

My money is sometime in the late Fall, when the last of the MY21 orders have have all been scheduled so those people are locked into their builds when the MY22 options announced.
So I guess it is safe to say, if you place a MY21 order and MY22 has a color you like better, you will NOT be allowed to change your order?
 

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So I guess it is safe to say, if you place a MY21 order and MY22 has a color you like better, you will NOT be allowed to change your order?
If you place an order for MY21, but they don't get to your build by the time MY22 ordering opens, you'll be able to / be required to, resubmit your order... including any options that become available in MY22.

No different than changing your order now to any options that are available in MY21.
 

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Anyone have an actual total of how many Bronco reservations Ford has received as of April 2021? I just read an article where Ford expects to only produce 33% of reservations in the model year 21. Full production appears to be designated for August. I am guessing 65,000 units by the end of December at best. That leaves a whole bunch of us in the MY 22 line if this is indeed the case.
Ford is reporting Q1 earnings TODAY after market close - imagine they'll have something about Bronco in that report.
 

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Last I saw around 130k or so converted orders...maybe someone has a better number. One guy speculated they can build 139k by december if all goes well. Right now its anyones guess.
They can only build 160k per year at MAP that is running at full steam ahead!
Neither of those numbers is correct. :)

Ford cannot build 139K Broncos by December. The exact math is a bit complicated, with the exact start date unknown, the exact end date before cutover to MY'22 unknown and that there is a planned ramp-up from 350 units per shift to 600 units per shift (full production) from May to August. And that doesn't consider any supply constraints.

Though there will be two shifts and an expected 600 units per shift at full capacity, we must remember that Ford will need to produce >100,000 Rangers annually on that production line, which is a significant portion of one of those shifts. If Ford can build half of the Broncos that @hemiblas stated, that would be an excellent outcome.

Conversely, Ford's capacity is currently about 150K units annually at MAP, but it is adding a second shift for Bronco, so total production capability will double (again, not considering any supply constraints). This suggests that Ford should be able to fill all backorders and provide dealer stock in MY'22. There's no real way to know how many people who would like a '21 will get a '22 since Ford encouraged people who wanted a '22 to place an order. So the "more than 100,000 orders" that Ford has quoted includes a significant number of '22s.
 

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I dont even know what "my place in line" means anymore🤪
It means you have a slightly better chance than someone who does have a place in line.
 

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Ford is reporting Q1 earnings TODAY after market close - imagine they'll have something about Bronco in that report.
No Bronco profit without Bronco Orders and fulfillment. Only in gov't mystical accounting could you book the encumbered 'income'....lol
 

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All I know is I have a reservation, and my local dealer thinks I "might" be able to order in September.

You are not supposed to be able to order unless you did so by the 3/19 cutoff, but apparently some folks are able to?

Or is this a dealer allocation thing? My two closest dealers got 160 allocations each, and around 450 reservations.
 

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Last I saw around 130k or so converted orders...maybe someone has a better number. One guy speculated they can build 139k by december if all goes well. Right now its anyones guess.
Ford already gave us the estimate on the number of Broncos they can build in MY21. It was in the chart someone posted on the priority orders. The chart said 3,104 broncos is 5.1% of MY 21 allocation.
A little math, which I think is correct, get's you to a more realistic number that has been thrown around here before, ~60,000.
100%/5.1%=19.6
3104*19.6 = 60,862 MY21 broncos

I'm guessing commodity restricted Bronco reservations will be built all through Q1 of '22, maybe even Q2. Non-commodity restricted Bronco reservations will be competed before then, so we'll see dealer stock (of builds commodity restricted reservation holders don't want) on lots before all reservation holders have purchased their Broncos.

As for our 'place in line' with respect to reservation timestamp, the reality is that is a minor factor into when you get your Bronco built. Besides commodity constraints, you have a scheduling system that has to take into account trim, options, colors, and region. Our reservation timestamp will only put us in front of a small percentage of other reservation holders, not all 100k+ across the country.
Ford said this, but not very well. They glossed over the scheduling system and emphasized the Broncos will be build in order of reservation timestamp. Honoring the reservation timestamp is still a good thing, as it takes away the ability of not-so-honorable dealers of entering Bronco orders in order of who pays the most, or who is a VIP customer. To make up for this, Ford gave (most? some? all?) of the first month of Bronco builds to dealer VIP's.
Actually, the second month (June). The first month (May) goes to dealer demo units.
 
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I dont even know what "my place in line" means anymore🤪
To carry on the restaurant analogy, some people are a party of 10 waiting on a table, and getting mad when a couple that showed up after them gets put at a 2-seater quicker.

The restaurant going strictly in arrival order would mean that tiny 2-seat table sat open for a long time, needlessly.
 

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To carry on the restaurant analogy, some people are a party of 10 waiting on a table, and getting mad when a couple that showed up after them gets put at a 2-seater quicker.

The restaurant going strictly in arrival order would mean that tiny 2-seat table sat open for a long time, needlessly.
That's not a good analogy. We're all, or the vast majority of us, are waiting patiently in line for one vehicle. The goal posts keep getting moved and the field keeps getting longer.
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