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missed the picture
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So they were fine with overcharging until the internet found out. Sounds about right.
 

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I wonder if pulling the video was a factor in getting the vehicle at MSRP.
 

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You assume NO price has been agreed to.

The reality is that prices aren't being adhered to.

If I placed and RSVP, and the dealer said "price is going to be MSRP, then they have agreed to a price. Whether verbal, email, text, carrier pigeon...a price was communicated and agreed.

What we have to rely on is a dealer keeping their word and actually abiding by the price they communicated. Almost none of us, no matter how careful you think you have been, have a binding agreement. Period. It can be unilaterally changed, either by you backing out or them adding fees.
My thoughts exactly. It gets so tiring with the professional vehicle buyers and their "It's your fault (you get screwed) you didn't have a written agreement". Are these people all lawyers? I have a verbal agreement. I thought that was enough. I will ask for it in writing when I reorder. Whenever that may be.
 
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This is exactly right.

Yes, verbal agreements *can* in some situations be binding and enforceable agreements. It's different in each state. There's this thing that most US states inherited from the old English "common law" (that is, law made by judges on a case by case basis) called the "statute of frauds" that says that some agreements must be in writing or they cannot be enforced in court. Typical examples include contracts for the sale of land.

So, yes, verbal agreements can be binding. But if you rely on a verbal agreement, you're taking a chance that your agreement is the type that courts will enforce if its only verbal. But more than that, you are going to have trouble, as you suggest, proving the contents of that agreement and that there was, in fact, an agreement at all. Courts typically want evidence that the parties agreed on all of the material points of the agreement before they will enforce it. If its just a conversation, or a one-way communication from a third party (like Ford Motor Company, which is a separate entity from your dealer), good luck with that. But beyond that, even if you can gather the evidence, are you going to pay an attorney tens of thousands of dollars to sue over some supposed agreement to buy a truck? Enforcing your legal rights is very expensive; enforcing something as amorphous as an oral agreement is low probability of success; you do the math.

Like everyone here is saying, if you don't have an executed written agreement, you are courting disaster. You might be tired of hearing it but that doesn't make it any less true. Whether the reason is that it's not enforceable legally, or the reason is that its impractical to actually enforce it, the result is the same for you. To quote the late great John Candy, "you lose, comrade."

Wisdom starts with humility and the willingness to learn. Or so people are always trying to tell me! :)
Does somebody even have standing to force another party to sell an item they no longer want to sell to you? I hear what you are saying about verbal vs written but if I'd they can sue, nobody is actually going to sue over this. If they do, it will take way too long, cost way too much, and would surely not be worth the time or trouble.

Folks need to stop acting like this is some travesty. It is a Ford Bronco, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Moonpie ford responded to my google review with almost the same exact response. They obviously don’t like how it “played out” because they got smoked on the web for being greedy morons. Yehhhhhh they ”can” ask anything they want, but that doesn’t make it right to do so.
fun thread……glad to help….
 

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Looks like they "worked something out". Sounds like they still payed a little ADM. She says the video and part 2 will be up soon.

 

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And this my friends, is why I am driving 11 Hours from Texas to Iowa (GRANGER).

I will definitely keep them in prayer, maybe some divine intervention will help.

Or maybe a bolt of lightning strikes that dealership 🙌🏽 ⚡
Amen! Fifteen hour drive home here! The peace of mind has been priceless.
 

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Was this Tomball Ford?
It did happen and here is the dealership's response
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this is what happens wen we band together dont take sh*t from these dealers if you placed an order and waited over a year. I bet you all other dealers are going to be cautious going forward. We are dealing with delays after dealers only to find out dbags dealers trying to pull a fast one
 

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Tesla has one of the best lead times right now (still not amazing but better than other manufacturers)…
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Does somebody even have standing to force another party to sell an item they no longer want to sell to you?

No, unless (1) you have a binding contract where you and they have agreed that they'll sell it to you, or (2) you are the government, in which case you can unilaterally change the rules after the fact, or do whatever the hell you want.
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