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I actually like what I do, but I am still retiring in 4 years at 57....life is short, buy the beach house. :)
And the Bronco to get you to it!





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I think it actually looks good on AMB. Gray and dark blue work better than black and dark blue.

So AMB is #2 in my color choice and may be the winner based on gray tops looking better on AMB versus Cyber Orange.
To each his own! I just know black or body coloured roofs would put a lot of bronco fans over the top. Opinions...
 

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To each his own! I just know black or body coloured roofs would put a lot of bronco fans over the top. Opinions...
I personally am on the fence about waiting for a ‘22 just to be able to get a white top vs living with that damned gray one.
 

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Also - only a matter of time before the “not enough articulation” haters show up but for me this is a great amount of articulation for a factory stock vehicle.....
There is a reason why Ford has not mentioned the RTI (ramp travel index) score, the measurement of axle articulation before a wheel looses contact with the ground. They know what the score is and no mention to the public because it will be lower than a wrangler. They can tell you the break over, approach and departure angles that are class leading (because of the 35” from the factory). The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.

Only a matter of time before independent testers reveal to the public what it is. Not hating, and yes I still have my reservation for next year. I just know what I’m getting into and it will be limited rock fun because the Bronco will simply not excel at it and I’m ok with it.
 

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There is a reason why Ford has not mentioned the RTI (ramp travel index) score, the measurement of axle articulation before a wheel looses contact with the ground. They know what the score is and no mention to the public because it will be lower than a wrangler. They can tell you the break over, approach and departure angles that are class leading (because of the 35” from the factory). The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.

Only a matter of time before independent testers reveal to the public what it is. Not hating, and yes I still have my reservation for next year. I just know what I’m getting into and it will be limited rock fun because the Bronco will simply not excel at it and I’m ok with it.
Yes they have and did publish the RTI ramp scores. It’s been out from the beginning. See “chassis” section:

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/...pdf/2021-Bronco-2dr-4dr-Prelim-Tech-Specs.pdf

It is known and acknowledged as lower than the Wrangler’s scores. (Although I don’t have those handy).
 

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The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.
What is your definition of “bad”?

Have you watched any of the Rubicon Trail or Moab videos?

This thing will be FAR from my definition of bad on slow stuff.
 
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Yes they have and did publish the RTI ramp scores. It’s been out from the beginning. See “chassis” section:

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North America/US/product/2021/bronco/pdf/2021-Bronco-2dr-4dr-Prelim-Tech-Specs.pdf

It is known and acknowledged as lower than the Wrangler’s scores. (Although I don’t have those handy).
If I recall right it beats the Wrangler with the Bronco sway bar disconnected and is competitive but behind when the sway bar is connected. If we get a cheap aftermarket disconnect it would be really sweet for the non-bandlands buyers.
 

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There is a reason why Ford has not mentioned the RTI (ramp travel index) score, the measurement of axle articulation before a wheel looses contact with the ground. They know what the score is and no mention to the public because it will be lower than a wrangler. They can tell you the break over, approach and departure angles that are class leading (because of the 35” from the factory). The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.

Only a matter of time before independent testers reveal to the public what it is. Not hating, and yes I still have my reservation for next year. I just know what I’m getting into and it will be limited rock fun because the Bronco will simply not excel at it and I’m ok with it.
And?
I don’t think anyone is Nader the impression that the Bronco’s RTI would be greater than the Wrangler, just better overall...life is a compromise, you can’t have everything! lol
There is a reason why Ford has not mentioned the RTI (ramp travel index) score, the measurement of axle articulation before a wheel looses contact with the ground. They know what the score is and no mention to the public because it will be lower than a wrangler. They can tell you the break over, approach and departure angles that are class leading (because of the 35” from the factory). The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.

Only a matter of time before independent testers reveal to the public what it is. Not hating, and yes I still have my reservation for next year. I just know what I’m getting into and it will be limited rock fun because the Bronco will simply not excel at it and I’m ok with it.
And?
I don’t think anyone is under the impression that the Bronco’s RTI would be greater than the Wrangler, just better overall, which I believe it to be...life is a compromise, you can’t have everything...and certainly not all at once! lol
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If I recall right it beats the Wrangler with the Bronco sway bar disconnected and is competitive but behind when the sway bar is connected. If we get a cheap aftermarket disconnect it would be really sweet for the non-bandlands buyers.
Nope, Bronco did not beat the JKUR. The Rubicon RTI score is 693 (actual not projected like the Bronco) for a Wrangler 4 door rubi discoed.

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To each his own! I just know black or body coloured roofs would put a lot of bronco fans over the top. Opinions...

... im finally past the Grey is the top; it is the only option what is offered, and in the Base trim there wouldnt even be an option to add the Mod or body color top anyways ??.

My gripe with the MIC (that wouldnt be changed more than likely) all this time is that the rear passenger area doesnt have a roof portion removable also.

... the small humans back there more than likely will mention at least once,
"?? heyyyyyyyy why dont we have a open roof area too?" ... "??uhhhhhhh ... hhhhhh mmmmm, Fordhatesyou and thinksyourugly ... ... ... i dont know"
 

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Pretty good footage. Is the high and low speed creaking from the suspension normal for newer vehicles?

Oh man, just watched a bit more, they sure did durability test those skid plates :).
My employer had the wisdom of making me suffer with a Transit Connect for a year. That little bastard would creak and drag going down wagon trails to remote locations. Would give it all the onions and point it down the track and hope bounce and momentum would get me thru. Fun as all get out but probably not the best for that particular rig. Always hoped it would leave a trail of parts but the minimal skid platage seemed to do the trick..
 

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There is a reason why Ford has not mentioned the RTI (ramp travel index) score, the measurement of axle articulation before a wheel looses contact with the ground. They know what the score is and no mention to the public because it will be lower than a wrangler. They can tell you the break over, approach and departure angles that are class leading (because of the 35” from the factory). The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.

Only a matter of time before independent testers reveal to the public what it is. Not hating, and yes I still have my reservation for next year. I just know what I’m getting into and it will be limited rock fun because the Bronco will simply not excel at it and I’m ok with it.
I believe that score is published and
There is a reason why Ford has not mentioned the RTI (ramp travel index) score, the measurement of axle articulation before a wheel looses contact with the ground. They know what the score is and no mention to the public because it will be lower than a wrangler. They can tell you the break over, approach and departure angles that are class leading (because of the 35” from the factory). The Bronco is very good at fast stuff but bad on the slow stuff.

Only a matter of time before independent testers reveal to the public what it is. Not hating, and yes I still have my reservation for next year. I just know what I’m getting into and it will be limited rock fun because the Bronco will simply not excel at it and I’m ok with it.
Yes these numbers are released and they are better than most think!

" The Badlands also uses a hydraulically actuated front swaybar disconnect too for slow-speed trails. Engineer Groves says the big difference between their system and Jeep is that the Bronco’s can be used under load—so the bar can cycle freely from fully connected to disconnected mode no matter how severe the terrain. Ford says with the front bar disconnected two-door models to score an RTI of 700 on a 20-degree ramp. And four-door models are projected to score a lower RTI of 620. So, compared to the Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited which scored 693, a Bronco’s articulation is very close. On a trail, that means the suspension of these two 4X4s should almost be an even match. "

https://www.autoweek.com/news/trucks/a33303175/bronco-vs-wrangler-bench-racing-battle/#:~:text=Ford says with the front,Bronco's articulation is very close."


https://pickuptrucktalk.com/2020/07...yy0xG3YWYWbgYI4y-VfF8G8rBwz3o9k-bq3R53TbXzdGw
 
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Is it just me, but at the 4 min and 5 min mark the broncos tend to get a little tipsy........ I have been around jeeps my entire life and I really feel the jeep has much better articulation and less likely to get tipsy.... or at least it takes way more articulation to become tipsy and lose the rear tires to up in the air status......

I don't know guys and gals, I might take some flack for this but the jeep I feel may be the more trail and rock worthy if that is what you will primarily be doing
 
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Is it just me, but at the 4 min and 5 min mark the broncos tend to get a little tipsy........ I have been around jeeps my entire life and I really feel the jeep has much better articulation and less likely to get tipsy.... or at least it takes way more articulation to become tipsy and lose the rear tires to up in the air status......

I don't know guys and gals, I might take some flack for this but the jeep I feel may be the more trail and rock worthy if that is what you will primarily be doing
If your primary concern is slow trail/rock the Wrangler would be the one to go for.

If you care for daily driver, high/low speed off road, mix of different terrains with occasional rock crawling and good engine power the Bronco is for you :p.
 
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