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So I'm in the market for a vehicle and I wanted to get a Bronco. I did reserve a bronco for $100 that I never turned into an order. Anyways this dealer has couple of badlands and big bends coming in and they are selling them for $10K markup. I know this was going to happen since they are in demand.
The salesman told me the following things:
- Told me no dealers are getting any stock from Ford, since Ford is only making confirmed ordered Broncos. I asked him then how were they getting those Broncos that are coming in if Dealers can't order stock. He didn't clarify for me. Could they be orders that someone ordered and then backed out? I think the dealers did place orders and this is what those are, since once placed, they would be CONFIRMED orders, even if placed by a dealer.
- Wouldn't budge on the markup let along making deals for MSRP. I don't know if all dealers are selling with ADMs in Canada.
- If I were to place an order with the dealer, I would still be charged mark-up. Actually I didn't clarify this part with him, but from our previous conversations I think they for sure will sell a new order with a mark-up.
- He said if I were to place an order it will take 8-12 weeks, give or take a week. I told him that I've been reading online where some people are saying that their Bronco orders are getting pushed to 2022. He said that's only for people who placed their orders back in March or really early on. He said what Ford did was, if they couldn't get parts, they took those Broncos off assembly lines and put them in storage, and now that the parts are coming in, they are continually making new Broncos for new orders coming in, all those early orders will be delivered in 2022, when Ford puts those Broncos back on assembly lines to finish them. Again I don't know how true this is. If I was one of those early buyers, I would be pisssssed.
- I asked him if another dealer somewhere in Canada has a Bronco that I wanted, can they get that for me. He didn't answer. I think another dealer did this for my friend in Sask who wanted a vehicle that a dealer in BC had. So the dealer in sask just had that truck shipped from BC with no extra charge. So I still don't know if they do this with Broncos. I think they probably don't want to, since the other dealer can probably easily sell it and neither of them wants to pay the shipping cost, unless they move the cost to me. But with ADMs, I'm not interested.
Questions for you guys
- Why isn't Ford making Wildtraks until mid 2022 or 2023? Is it because they come with Hardtop ONLY? and now Hardtops are having issues, so they just stopping making Wildtraks?
- What is the difference between a fully equipped Wildtrak and any other fully loaded model? I know the wildtrak has some things that are standard, whereas on other models are optional. But if everything is ticked off on lower models, is there a difference in Wildrak and other ones? I'm guessing only interior and exterior style would be different unless there are other big differences. I asked buddy, he said the difference is styling, and that Wildtrak only comes with hardtop.
- Are there dealers taking orders, or selling Broncos from inventories without ADMs?
- I don't think I want to pay $10K over asking, where in a year or two maybe three these Broncos could be selling for pretty good discounts during employee pricing. I acknowledge the fact that people are paying the ADMs or MSRP to be one of the few to get their hands on this hot vehicle. And the people who want discounts are waiting for the craziness to die down.
The salesman told me the following things:
- Told me no dealers are getting any stock from Ford, since Ford is only making confirmed ordered Broncos. I asked him then how were they getting those Broncos that are coming in if Dealers can't order stock. He didn't clarify for me. Could they be orders that someone ordered and then backed out? I think the dealers did place orders and this is what those are, since once placed, they would be CONFIRMED orders, even if placed by a dealer.
- Wouldn't budge on the markup let along making deals for MSRP. I don't know if all dealers are selling with ADMs in Canada.
- If I were to place an order with the dealer, I would still be charged mark-up. Actually I didn't clarify this part with him, but from our previous conversations I think they for sure will sell a new order with a mark-up.
- He said if I were to place an order it will take 8-12 weeks, give or take a week. I told him that I've been reading online where some people are saying that their Bronco orders are getting pushed to 2022. He said that's only for people who placed their orders back in March or really early on. He said what Ford did was, if they couldn't get parts, they took those Broncos off assembly lines and put them in storage, and now that the parts are coming in, they are continually making new Broncos for new orders coming in, all those early orders will be delivered in 2022, when Ford puts those Broncos back on assembly lines to finish them. Again I don't know how true this is. If I was one of those early buyers, I would be pisssssed.
- I asked him if another dealer somewhere in Canada has a Bronco that I wanted, can they get that for me. He didn't answer. I think another dealer did this for my friend in Sask who wanted a vehicle that a dealer in BC had. So the dealer in sask just had that truck shipped from BC with no extra charge. So I still don't know if they do this with Broncos. I think they probably don't want to, since the other dealer can probably easily sell it and neither of them wants to pay the shipping cost, unless they move the cost to me. But with ADMs, I'm not interested.
Questions for you guys
- Why isn't Ford making Wildtraks until mid 2022 or 2023? Is it because they come with Hardtop ONLY? and now Hardtops are having issues, so they just stopping making Wildtraks?
- What is the difference between a fully equipped Wildtrak and any other fully loaded model? I know the wildtrak has some things that are standard, whereas on other models are optional. But if everything is ticked off on lower models, is there a difference in Wildrak and other ones? I'm guessing only interior and exterior style would be different unless there are other big differences. I asked buddy, he said the difference is styling, and that Wildtrak only comes with hardtop.
- Are there dealers taking orders, or selling Broncos from inventories without ADMs?
- I don't think I want to pay $10K over asking, where in a year or two maybe three these Broncos could be selling for pretty good discounts during employee pricing. I acknowledge the fact that people are paying the ADMs or MSRP to be one of the few to get their hands on this hot vehicle. And the people who want discounts are waiting for the craziness to die down.
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