It's amazingly nerve wracking, but I think his traction control may have been pushing him at the line.
The transmission in the Explorer and Bronco are the same, so I don't think it's a "cheap out" issue. My guess, it's a drivability and durability issue for the other components (transmission included). The Bronco (My 4dr Badlands) does look to weigh about 400 lbs. more. There is also obviously a big difference in tire sizes and weight. Hopefully the tuners will uncover what the programming looks like and can "tune in" different parameters for those who want a harder launch off the line.
My point is that the R60 transmission is running some good times and handling a lot of horsepower (stock Explorer ST is no slouch). I am not sure if you have your Bronco yet, but mine literally feels like it has a massive limiter through most of 1st gear. I don't know if it matters to me, as the drivability and acceleration in any normal driving situation has been excellent. Honestly, I just don't want to loose to a Jeep unless it's a Hemi or V8 swap, so I may end up talking to Livernois or Roush
All fair points. I guess when I said cheap out, I meant that I expected a 10R80 when I checked the 10 speed option box.
Good part about the Bronco, a bunch of the development took place right across the street from Roush. Maybe they swapped some intel
It's not life or death and I will wait with interest on reports regarding the Ford tune too.
No, but I’m test driving a wildtrak tomorrow. I guess I will find out. I have to say I was pissed when I found out about the 10R60 but not much I can do about it besides hope for improvements in MY22 assuming I don’t get a VIN this year.My point is that the R60 transmission is running some good times and handling a lot of horsepower (stock Explorer ST is no slouch). I am not sure if you have your Bronco yet, but mine literally feels like it has a massive limiter through most of 1st gear. I don't know if it matters to me, as the drivability and acceleration in any normal driving situation has been excellent. Honestly, I just don't want to loose to a Jeep unless it's a Hemi or V8 swap, so I may end up talking to Livernois or Roush
I can say with confidence the R60 is a better feeling transmission. No clue on longevity, but it shifts more smoothly, doesn't hunt as much and other than off the line launch, feels better by every measure (not sure if that is throttle by wire or transmission tuning). Driving back to back in my sons Ranger this week it was very noticeable.
I remember @flip mentioning he thought they used the 60 over the 80 because it’s a much newer trans and more refined. I think the new ranger is expected to make the switch too as the only reason the used the 80 is because that was the only option they had available at the time.
It's just way more pronounced on my Bronco than my 2.7 F150s. I never considered a tune on either of them. I may be slightly more focused on the Bronco though?
