Why is everyone afraid of the engine bay?

[Bikeric]

Just wait til you add lights, winch, and other accessories. More wires to go with all those hoses!

Here is a V8 Toyota engine bay with a winch, 2 auxiliary light circuits and an amp wired in for my sub. The plastic cover does make it a cleaner look (despite the dirt) but take the cover off and it's still prettier than the 2.7.

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[jay-rod427]

B6Ger's today= It's so ugly and cluttered. I can't even work on it with all that crap in the way. I wish it was like engines 40 years ago that were easy to work on.


Ford Engineers= Ya it ain't pretty, but it'll make terrific power, solid fuel economy, and will extremely rarely need to be worked on. I don't care if it's not the easiest thing to work on because it shouldn't really need touched. Hell don't even change the oil until at least 7,500 miles.


All this old simple easy to work on engine shit. You do realize those old "simple easy to work on" engines always needed worked on. They were unreliable junk. By todays high annual mileage standards you'd have to put spark plugs in that old technology at least once a year, adjust the carb, check the distributor, replace gaskets often. 100K miles and the rings were shot, valves shot, timing chain slapping.

Todays engines taken care of will go 100K miles without blinking. On the boosted engines change the spark plugs at 50K, change the oil on time, and rock it. Of course there are exceptions like a leaky water pump, or failed starter or some small repair, but all things considered todays engines really are a feat of longevity, power, and fuel economy.

 

[PartyMarty]

All of the spark plugs are a hell of a lot easier to access on the 2.3 and 2.7 eb than the Jeep 3.6 pentstar.

 

[lobbs611]

B6Ger's today= It's so ugly and cluttered. I can't even work on it with all that crap in the way. I wish it was like engines 40 years ago that were easy to work on.


Ford Engineers= Ya it ain't pretty, but it'll make terrific power, solid fuel economy, and will extremely rarely need to be worked on. I don't care if it's not the easiest thing to work on because it shouldn't really need touched. Hell don't even change the oil until at least 7,500 miles.


All this old simple easy to work on engine shit. You do realize those old "simple easy to work on" engines always needed worked on. They were unreliable junk. By todays high annual mileage standards you'd have to put spark plugs in that old technology at least once a year, adjust the carb, check the distributor, replace gaskets often. 100K miles and the rings were shot, valves shot, timing chain slapping.

Todays engines taken care of will go 100K miles without blinking. On the boosted engines change the spark plugs at 50K, change the oil on time, and rock it. Of course there are exceptions like a leaky water pump, or failed starter or some small repair, but all things considered todays engines really are a feat of longevity, power, and fuel economy.

Truth. I just traded in my 2010 Camaro SS with 143k miles on her. Oil and fluid changes as called for. New plugs once and changed upstream O2 sensors a few weeks back. No other mechanical issues. Pads, rotors and tires were really the only other maintenance needed. Was still knocking down 19.8 mpg on my 70+mile mostly interstate commute with plenty of power when called on.

 

[NCOBX]

B6Ger's today= It's so ugly and cluttered. I can't even work on it with all that crap in the way. I wish it was like engines 40 years ago that were easy to work on.


Ford Engineers= Ya it ain't pretty, but it'll make terrific power, solid fuel economy, and will extremely rarely need to be worked on. I don't care if it's not the easiest thing to work on because it shouldn't really need touched. Hell don't even change the oil until at least 7,500 miles.


All this old simple easy to work on engine shit. You do realize those old "simple easy to work on" engines always needed worked on. They were unreliable junk. By todays high annual mileage standards you'd have to put spark plugs in that old technology at least once a year, adjust the carb, check the distributor, replace gaskets often. 100K miles and the rings were shot, valves shot, timing chain slapping.

Todays engines taken care of will go 100K miles without blinking. On the boosted engines change the spark plugs at 50K, change the oil on time, and rock it. Of course there are exceptions like a leaky water pump, or failed starter or some small repair, but all things considered todays engines really are a feat of longevity, power, and fuel economy.

We’re literally comparing this to vehicles produced in the last 10 years. Pretending these concerns are immaterial doesn’t make them disappear. Again I point back to my engine bay on page 2 out of a 2017 vehicle with good power, good fuel economy, easy to work on, and more reliable than either of the Bronco engines.

 

[jkburg]

What is an engine bay? Is that the thing in front that makes the car go? When I take it in to the dealer for an oil change or if the light comes on for service he makes it go away.

 

[Ta2punk]

Not sure, maybe new drivers or drivers that really don't know there way around an engine. I think it's easy for people to hear about issues with turbo charged engines in general and start doubting/getting worried. Also, possibly due to no pictures of a plastic shroud being on top and it just appearing messy idk. Just spitballing here.

I used to be afraid to touch anything in my cars engines or get worried hearing horror stories about issues they had. Then in 2013 I got a Mazdaspeed 3 and found a group in my city at the time (san Antonio) with other owners of the same car. I got into cars then, bought aftermarket parts and my friends showed me how to do the installs and troubleshoot engine stuff myself (nothing incredibly crazy). I've owned turbo charged 4cyl cars since then and my current car has a 14 year old engine in it that I have done extensive work to myself.

I don't know anything about troubleshooting/repairing off road issues so I' excited to get this vehicle and learn all that stuff and engine stuff.

 

[ATLBronco75]

The people posting fully aftermarket show car engine bays are cracking me up. Look how clean this is: "NA V8" , "20 feet of aftermarket plumbing", "A freaking LAMBORGHINI" . ROFLMAO

 

[Ryuk]

 

[Razorbak86]

All of the spark plugs are a hell of a lot easier to access on the 2.3 and 2.7 eb than the Jeep 3.6 pentstar.

Agreed. The spark plugs are very easy to access.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

You boys just need to sign up for a few classes at the local community college to learn how to work on a modern engine.

Or, you are welcome to come down to Alabama and enroll either at Wallace State, Jeff State, Shelton State, Lawson State, or Bishop State technical and community colleges. All are great with very experienced master mechanics as instructors, they're passionate, and the schools tuition is cheap.

The auto programs at these schools are top notch and once you're done, the engine bay won't be so scary and may actually seem like a work of art.

Very good mechanics in Alabama as result of these and a few other schools.

 

[Hoofnmouth]

I am still getting one (2.3) and i have been wrenching since post diapers ,yall have to admit that is an ugly engine pit! full of failure points . I know the days of bare 1 wire na v8 clean bays are long gone but if your excited about this mess your in for a crash course in the school of hard knocks.

 

[Drunken Wisdom (END)]

It's fine. I think there's a subset that is used to naked carbed V8s.

Yeah you're a little bit off.

There is a subset that would gladly TAKE a naked carbed V8 over a turbo any day!!

Or so I've heard anyways

 

[David12691]

Having seen it in person it looks complicated, but there are a lot of people on here up in arms about something I don't feel is a big deal.

 

[Beachin 74]

I know one thing, I use a hell of a lot less rags when changing the oil in my wife's 2011 Explorer, and my 2015 F-150 than my 1974 Bronco. When you pull the front drain plug and filter on the early Bronco it dumps it on the drag link, tie rod, and differential. The 3.5L in the Explorer is probably the easiest oil change I ever done.

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