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I'm looking at either a loaded badlands or a rubicon x. Two door only. It looks like the jeeps are getting more heavily discounted than the broncos, but maybe I'm not looking in the right place. It would appear that I could get the Rubicon x at maybe $55k, but the badlands seems to price out in...

2 dr Wildtrak MSRP $66385 Invoice $63980

Bizarre situation. It's unclear if Ford warned dealers that their future allocations would be debited. But even if dealers knew this would happen, why would Ford choose to debit one dealer's future allocation versus filling another dealer's current allocation in the current sales climate where...

Any word on if Ford killed off Chapman's 2024 allocation?

I think in MY24 we will see more dealers starting to make deals under MSRP. Let the high interest rates burn in a bit longer. Inventories of all vehicles are starting to pile up. Bronco is not immune. Just got to wait until more of the new rubs off. I think we will also probably see more and...

2024 build is $66650 so less than yesterday's 2023 price. The 3/27/23 order price was $66385. This is a 2dr build

I've seen as much as 7% under invoice. So maybe ~$5k below MSRP for an upper level trim.

Looks like it's a wait and see just how the price increases pan out. 2024 Wildtrak went up $2000, but you get the $725 bumper and maybe some other stuff. My 2023 order with the bumber prices out at $67880. So maybe the overall increase will be ~$1000 ish.

Are allocations smaller that '23? Wondering if Ranger is impacting allocations.

What is in the "Improved steering equipment now standard" for Badlands and Wildtrak? I'm thinking it's the "Evasive Steering assist" in the Lux package. Hoss 3.0 is standard on Wildtrak already. 2.0 on badlands too.

That's a $3200 option for Jeep. And prices a Jeep Rubicon with the one touch roof at ~$75k

I ordered a Wildtrak. At this point I wouldn't take it without seeing what is available for MY24. I'm not so jonesing for one of these that I would buy one that doesn't have what I want. Having said that I'm thinking of not buying it anyway as the price just rubs me the wrong way.

IIUC, The plant gets shut down for one or two weeks in July.

Tried with Chrome and could see it. Firefox wouldn't display it.

Not sure if Chapman is taking any more under invoice orders. The under invoice offers seem to have disappeared from their web site. I'm guessing they probably have more orders than they can handle.

Same. I've been getting junkmail from a bunch of manufacturers including Ford with incentives. And I read inventories are building up on dealer lots. Plus we're heading for the model year switch and interest rates up. Seems like a perfect storm coming. I think it's a matter of time for bronco...

Yep. Ideally a 2 door. Both Jeep and Ford need to ditch the 2 door rear seat and put some batteries back there. But that won't happen. Jeep seems to be going toward a 2 dr EV. Who knows with Bronco. I would imagine Ford would want a chunk of the 4xe success. Would 24 be the year? The way things...

I think it continues to be a shit show. Seems like some folks might get their MY23 builds in 2024 and well past the MY24 transition due to seemingly endless delays across the board. Sounds like some of the seat belt recall people could be in this boat. I have a 23 order in, but I don't want a...

When does everything switch to MY24? Seems like with Ford, it's usually around Aug-Sep that the order guide switches over.

If I buy a new car, I don't want it to be sitting on a lot for 8 months or a year before I buy it. There is such a thing as calendar age. Sitting, especially outdoors uncovered, is about the worst thing for a car. And as it sits you really have no idea how the dealer or whoever is treating it...