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Agreed. I know it's a long shot but just in case conversions are way lower than Ford expects or production way higher would like the chance at a 21. But, given the very low odds of a 21, I would only want to commit to a model if I have the chance of switching models once I'm pushed to 22 just...

For those of us with an October reservation, clearly we're not going to get a MY21 which is fine and fully expected. Should we still expect to convert our reservation to order before the March deadline? And if we do so, are we locked into a particular model even when we resubmit for MY22? I...

Understood and thanks so much for staying active in this forum and sharing information with us. It's really appreciated and a breath of fresh air! With the understanding that the initial allocation is an estimate, not final, not in any way guaranteed, subject to change, and subject to a whole...

And there lies the problem with a higher non-refundable deposit. High refundable deposit - mildly annoying but whatever, not a big deal as if prices get jacked up massively I can just walk Non-refundable higher deposit when I'm highly likely to get allocated a MY22 for which we don't have...

Is that true even if an order gets pushed to MY22? Hope I'm wrong but I could see Ford jacking up 2022 prices on us.

Exactly right. I'm fine with a higher deposit but unless the dealer commits to price at the time of the deposit, it needs to be refundable.

Mike was correct about the rock star part just incomplete; he failed to mention their rock stars are Ozzy and Axl Rose in a room somewhere just smashing their face into a keyboard repeatedly Joking aside, I'm a bit worried about all the nanny systems as those involve a lot of code as well. If...

Is the expectation that MY2022 will be treated the same as MY2021 and subject to an allocation formula? Has Ford committed to filling all reservations, regardless of model year, before dealer stock? It wasn't super clear from the video whether they were talking about MY 2021...

@centra28 raises good points but I'm in the same position (prefer 33s on the 2dr to 35s) and am thinking BDSquatch or BaseSquatch to start and just throw on 33s after the 35s wear our. My reasons: - Cheaper (way cheaper in case of BaseSquatch) - Don't like orange BL interior - I may be the only...

Do we know if sasquatch package tires can easily be swapped for 33s without any issues? Any issues with gearing maybe? My sweet spot for the 2dr is BL with 33s but it feels silly to spend all the extra money on a BL when BaseSquatch with floor liners otherwise meets my needs. If it's easy to...

Base is extra appealing for those getting invoice pricing as you get a 6% discount on options at invoice and ~3% discount between MSRP and invoice on the base price of each model. 2dr BaseSquatch + 2.7/auto, floor liners, aux switches, modular bumper comes in over $5k cheaper than similarly...

same question here as well. seems you can't include upgraded front bash plates with the "capable" bumper which is odd

I'm deciding between squatched BD or squatched BL and it's really tough to justify the >$3k difference in price when I don't want/need High or Lux. Especially since cheap manual aftermarket disconnects should be widely available relatively quickly.

Exactly right. I think this is the final piece that pushes me to cancel my early August reservation and lock in my 10/1 Granger reservation. MY2022, especially at $2k under invoice with FoMoCo killing x-plan for MY2021, is sounding really good right about now.

I went ahead and made a reservation with Granger this morning. I'm highly likely to cancel my initial reservation with Towne but of course would transfer to another CA dealer if they get close to Granger + shipping. If a bulk shipping order comes through with Granger, I'm interested!

Without defending any other posters' specific comments, I will say that reading Gloff's posts felt at least a bit off putting to me at least. Coming on this board to interact with us is great and all but we're getting nothing but salesman speak which generally rubs me the wrong way (if he's...

@Gloff Even at full shipping price for a single vehicle it's way better than anything you are offering. Not sure why you are trying to knock another dealer's offer - oh wait, I know exactly why ;) - rather than offering up something competitive yourself.

Totally fair! I wouldn't be getting a Raptor/Warthog regardless and I'm probably looking at very late 2021/early 2022 for delivery so this is super tempting for me at least. We can hope this deal lights a fire under at least 1 CA dealer (even if just one offers say $1,000 off invoice with X...

Did we ever get an estimate for a 6 car shipment from Granger? I'm definitely going to be signing up for a second reservation come Oct 1 with the new Granger deal and then making a call on cancelling either my initial res or 2nd res closer to the 10/31 deadline. $2,000 off invoice with no X Plan...

How much of a pain is it to get a vehicle shipped from out of state registered in CA? I haven't done that before. Towne put in writing that they would honor X Plan so I'm leaning that direction unless I won't have to spend hours at the DMV or something as difference between X Plan and Granger...