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I'm in Chicago, but I decided to go with a Jeep 392 and ordered through Granger as well. Figure it is worth the 350 mile drive to not deal with the Chicago dealerships. When I was doing my research, every one seemed like they were charging $10k ADMs minimum. I felt dirty just walking in those...

It is only hard because they have to satisfy dealers based on pre determined allocation formulas that are likely rooted in internal politics and historical sales figures. It just shows you how messed up the dealer system is and associated regulations. Otherwise, why would Ford care which...

The typical consumer doesn't give a bucket of hamster vomit about Ford's internal dealer allocation model. It isn't reasonable to expect consumers would understand dealer allocation especially if Ford is taking online reservations / orders. Most people think orders should be processed in FIFO...

I know they were trying to keep with the wide body raptor theme but I think they should have just offered a more HP motor and kept the stock Bronco stance on 35s. They went from just right to too much... the design is trying too hard. It works for the pickup but not on the Bronco.

It is really surprising they don't already have this in place. I suspect they are working on it. This has been a disaster for Ford in terms of brand. Consumers don't care about the inner workings of dealer franchise laws and that cars are sold to dealers and then to the consumer by the...

Their out is that at the bottom is says it is not an invoice. One of my complaints in general is that there isn't a standardized form that should be required at time of order that holds dealer accountable for the price of the vehicle. Ford should have their own form that they require dealers...

I have not heard a single person complain about ADMs when clearly communicated upfront. If a highly desirable car is on the lot and you want it immediately, you gotta pay to play. It is simple supply and demand. Prices reflect that reality. The issue is slimy dealers not communicating ADMs...

Exactly... all the power in the world to squash when a dealer tries to offer a good deal but then magically neutered and out of his hands when scumbag dealers are screwing people over.

Ford needs to mandate a Ford approved purchase agreement to be signed at time of order on all reservations so there is no miscommunication. The dealers are playing loosey goosey and it should not take a white shoe lawyer to interpret a purchase order or dealers using printouts that have a price...

Maybe, maybe not. Unfortunately, it also goes both ways. Many customers only care about lowest price and will gladly screw over a local dealer to save a few pennies too. Don't get me wrong, not defending scumbag dealers, but customers can be just as guilty. I work in a business (mortgages)...

I wonder if a class action lawsuit would get any traction in putting a stop to this practice? At a minimum, there needs to be some uniform disclosure regulation in regards to pricing changes on direct customer orders that dealers should have to follow. I can't think of any product or service...

Love how all these great reviews are coming in every other minute. Hilarious.

They won't. The problem is there are too many consumers who reward this type of behavior.

I hate regulations, but sounds like there needs to be a standardized purchase form like a Loan Estimate that is used when getting a mortgage. Every single bank has to use the same form and once it is disclosed, it can only changed under certain circumstances and must be redisclosed. You can't...

Sounds like the are starting to feel the backlash... Given how prevalent social media and information is these days, I am really surprised dealers even think of trying this type of bait and switch stuff. It is one thing to have an stock order and you decide to hail mary an ADM to see who bites...

Yes, the dealer lobby is powerful. However, if there is enough outcry, you'd be surprised how quickly that legislation will change. Taxi lobby thought they were invincible too. Tesla has been driving a lot of support as well. Discounts are an entirely different animal and not as relevant...

People should be writing their state legislatures to repeal the laws that protect dealership model at the state level. There is no reason we should not be able to buy direct from manufacturer at an agreed upon price and have to worry about a dealer trying to screw us over when the car is...

I'm really surprised this practice is still legal... I'm also surprised that car companies allow the dealer networks to sully their brand equity like this. While the dealer may be the customer from an accounting standpoint, the end buyer satisfaction is what makes or breaks a brand. The...

This. I said screw it and moved on to a 392. I was holding out for maybe a Warthog when released, but not really interested in dealing with the shenanigans and if a regular Broncos are going for well over MSRP and dealers playing games with reservation holders then I know I have no hope. I...

I am ordering a 392 from Granger. Problem solved. Really wanted a bronco but not going to be abused financially to get one. Refuse to play these games.