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Yup, the folks who work at major car companies were like "hey we could make way more money by offering bare bone vehicles......nah let's make less money..." If there was a market for the non-creature comfort vehicles you want then somebody would've stepped up to fill it.

If you don't want one, don't buy one. Why would you want to prevent others from having a choice?

This is exactly why I'd buy one.

A hybrid would be awesome. The ability to drive back and forth from work and also driving a bit in town while using no gas would be awesome. I'm remote right now but I'm debating on driving in to work once or twice a week. It would definitely take the sting off of the low MPGs.

Off-roading with electricity is actually very efficient. Unlike ICE vehicles you're not wasting extra energy if you're crawling. As far as puncturing batteries, I'm pretty sure an off-road ev would have extra protection in the same way the Bronco has extra protection for it's gas tank and other...

The sun doesn't shine at night and eventually we're going to run out of fossil fuel. We currently store billions of tons of toxic coal around the country and we currently don't have really good solutions of what to do with it. As has been mentioned multiple times, batteries can be recycled...

Yeah I was confused by the wind turbines generate DC thing myself. The bottom paragraph is from the first link, I bolded the important lines. "The electrical power from the generator is typical 60 Hz, AC power with 600V output for large wind turbines. A transformer may be required to increase...

Close but not quite. Generally hydrogen isn't found in nature as H, it's usually H2(the same goes for several other gases), so when people talk about pure hydrogen they're talking about H2. The main issue is that while Hydrogen is all over the place, water and hydrocarbons, it generally needs to...

You do realize you need H2 right? Not H2O, or staying on a fuel theme CH4, and C3H8. The only way you get that is splitting the H2 from the O, or 2H2 from the CH4. You need pure hydrogen

Here's where you hydrogen according to the US government https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-resources You haven't addressed where we would get the electricity to make the hydrogen. If electricity production is the concern then hydrogen has no better chance than battery powered...

So let met get this straight, we don't have enough power for plug-in vehicles but we have enough power for hydrogen electrolysis on a massive scale? Electrolysis is about 80% efficient, fuel cells are 40-60% efficient. To get that "unlimited" hydrogen you'll need unlimited electricity.

Plug-in electric is idiotic but hydrogen fuel cells, which requires using electricity to make hydrogen to make electricity, is smart? There's nothing easy about hydrogen, which is why Toyota has been working on this for a really long time. The charging infrastructure is being built much faster...

It all comes down to energy density which is set to improve dramatically in the next 4 years

This thread if politics continues being injected

This article is related to cobalt mining. Tesla and other companies have already announced a shift away from batteries containing cobalt or only buying batteries from companies that don't source cobalt from the DRC...

That's an issue with cobalt and mining. Tesla announced a shift to cobalt free batteries last year. That will be less and less of issue going forward

What's inferior about electric cars? Also, who's forcing you? I can't speak for the rest of the country but I've already seen charging stations at malls parking lots, garages, and even the business park where I work has charging stations and EV adoption isn't even widespread. Mining for...

Politics. Good job. Let me get my thread shutdown timer going

1800s: Pfft this whole car thing isn't going to work out. I'll keep my horse. There aren't even enough places to get fuel.

I'm also wondering how all these people with ICE vehicles fuel up without gas stations in their building 🤣🤣