10 Highest ADM

[Oceannomad]

I just want to point this email…and no not the sports
Also yes, eBay isn’t a dealer charging ADM but it’s another avenue for them and customers to go hog wild with prices

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[Wanted33]

I have no problem with a dealer charging ADM on an order that is refused by a legitimate reservation holder…what else would they do with it? People are lined up to buy it and the market value right now is higher than the sticker. Dealers banking on having some not picked up that they can tack ADM on, allowed for the great deals out there…so no problemo here. I’m picking mine up and prices is locked in.

I agree. It's the dealers vehicle at this point. They can ask any price they want, and the customer can decided if they will pay it or not. And, no one is hurt during the negotiations. Capitalism at it's finest.

 

[Tricky Dick]

So this is problematic. I verified that Ray Silkman Ford has the Yellow Badlands, 2-door, manual trans on its website inventory and is delivered, ready for purchase. ADM is $25K. There has to be someone who ordered this exact build or near build out of the 130,000 or so reservations that converted to orders. I know that my Black Diamond could have been built ahead of this Bronco since the BL is nearly the same equipment wise regarding the interior and MIC top. I'm number 6 or 9 out of my Dealership's allocation. So this is evidence that priority of builds to reservationist-orders (pre-orders) to be filled before dealer stock is not being well controlled if MIC tops are the long-pole commodity constraint for 2-door versions. The June 26th email indicated that commodity constraints were forcing Ford to manufacture configurations that did not meet any customer pre-orders. Considering the issue is mostly MIC tops, both 2 and 4-door models, one could consider there are some 4-door soft-top only builds being manufactured that go to dealership inventory. I can accept that situation and understand why.

But this specific case with Silkman Ford is a bit troublesome.

Maybe they use their VIP order on themselves.

 

[Zach@Granger]

And I agree, Ford should have required a non-refundable* $1,000 deposit upon ordering and kept the funds in escrow, only to be transferred to dealership upon the actual sales transaction at delivery to the customer.

* unless the customer died and his heirs present a death certificate to have the $1,000 refunded. Considering how long it may take to get a Bronco, some customers are probably going to die waiting.

So they tried this approach with the Mach E, but it was then looked at by some attorney's as something that could be construed as "money laundering" if they transferred money from Ford to the dealership. The way it is setup now with the Bronco is that we at the dealership level receive your deposit and Ford never has possession.

Above my pay grade, but people smarter than me shot that possibility down.

 

[PrepVet]

Anyone that pays any type of dealer markup is out of their minds on a mass production car.

My crappy dealer tried charging me $7500 and then they did me a “favor” and lowered it to $5000 but I told them to pins sand so I am at MSRP but because of that I am assuming I won’t see a MY2021 but I’m not stupid so I will happily wait than pay any type of dealer markup.

 

[redone17]

You’re linking to a website for this. Gtfo with this, “iTs NoT cLicKbaIt.” If it wasn’t you would just post the figures.

Fair. I’ll spend more time copying and pasting information instead of spending time with my family.

 

[Bronco4lyfe85]

Fair. I’ll spend more time copying and pasting information instead of spending time with my family.

Perfect, thanks!

 

[bronco2drga]

I have no problem with a dealer charging ADM on an order that is refused by a legitimate reservation holder…what else would they do with it? People are lined up to buy it and the market value right now is higher than the sticker. Dealers banking on having some not picked up that they can tack ADM on, allowed for the great deals out there…so no problemo here. I’m picking mine up and prices is locked in.

Agree

 

[bronco2drga]

The phrase a penny wise, a pound foolish comes to mind. They might be able to make money upfront with an ADM on current product they have, but the only real weapon Ford has is pull allocation from those same dealers doing that.

Say a dealership has a Bronco and has some stupid ADM on it and someone bitches about it-Ford could be like, ok you where allocated 10 Broncos for the 22MY (just an example) Ford can pull that down to half or less as "punishment" to that dealership. Long term that will hurt the dealership (how much I don't know) because they won't have an in demand product to sell.

I hope this is the case.

 

[BlueBronco]

I’d wager that a majority of these are converted orders without commitment and that the dealers don’t care about the slap on the wrist. They were not built with intention to be dealer stock.

Not sure I would consider losing a months worth of Bronco allocation a slap on the wrist.

 

[Atomicdog]

If my dealer tries to charge me over MSRP I'll walk and give up my 7/15 reservation date. It will be frustrating and sad to do this, but I'm not dealing with crooked people.

Did you agree on a price with your dealer before your order was placed?

 

[bronco2drga]

Did you agree on a price with your dealer before your order was placed?

No, I was ignorant to the process. I thought the build sheet with the MSRP that I signed was my pricing. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I really did not expect a local dealership to pull this. Trust me it's way too small of a town for bad business.

 

[Atomicdog]

No, I was ignorant to the process. I thought the build sheet with the MSRP that I signed was my pricing. Hindsight is always 20/20, but I really did not expect a local dealership to pull this. Trust me it's way too small of a town for bad business.

Ugh. I hope it works out for you. Maybe you can discuss pricing with them now? I don't know the particulars of your market but you may have a better chance before it lands on the dealer lot.

 

[bronco2drga]

Ugh. I hope it works out for you. Maybe you can discuss pricing with them now? I don't know the particulars of your market but you may have a better chance before it lands on the dealer lot.

I discussed last week and they said they wanted to "call around to other dealerships to see what they were going to do". I'm going to give them 10 days to get a price and if they don't tell me what I want to hear I'm out.

A base bronco at $32k makes sense, but not at $37k. I'd rather spend $41k on a rubicon at that point.

 

[Atomicdog]

I discussed last week and they said they wanted to "call around to other dealerships to see what they were going to do". I'm going to give them 10 days to get a price and if they don't tell me what I want to hear I'm out.

A base bronco at $32k makes sense, but not at $37k. I'd rather spend $41k on a rubicon at that point.

That doesn't sound good. And if they mean they are going to agree with other dealers on pricing it is illegal. Not that there is much you can do about it from a practical standpoint.

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