2022 Electric Transit = 2022 Electric Bronco?

[Superds]

The range is noted right at the very end.

TFL also did a Gauntlet towing video with the X, in which the Tesla demonstrated the amazing capabilities of electric motors. Unfortunately again they had significant range anxiety. As I recall, they even let the chase vehicle tow the trailer back to the offices.

Now that I think about it, most of their X videos resulted in range anxiety, to the extent that I believe they even tried to charge with a portable inverter generator.

I did see the towing video a while back, if I recall correctly, the towing completely destroyed the range.

The other thing to consider with off-roading and fluctuating speeds is regenerative braking. It doesn’t give all your range back but I would think it would help vs high speed highway runs.

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[MaverickMan]

I'm right there with you. I think it would be fine for a day trip, but if you're thinking about anything resembling overlanding, you'd need a hell of a solar setup and a lot of downtime during the day to be able to do what a few jerry cans full of gas can accomplish.

I don't doubt they'd be really capable offroad, though. Who needs transfer cases and locking diffs when each wheel has its own motor? And 42.7" of wading depth? That's awesome. The $69,000 starting price tag for the R1T and the $72,000 starting price for the R1S make them both a hard "no" from me, even if I had the solar setup and/or trust in battery tech to try wheeling one.

I read an article on solar panels that they were estimating could get 15% of daytime charge power at night, it had to be a clear night, but they are working on it. May be a real thing 5 years down the road. Adapt it to camp awnings or roll out panel packs like the military uses and there might be something there. In a few years of course.

 

[CJay]

I did see the towing video a while back, if I recall correctly, the towing completely destroyed the range.

The other thing to consider with off-roading and fluctuating speeds is regenerative braking. It doesn’t give all your range back but I would think it would help vs high speed highway runs.

I understand the regeneration, but even there, once off road, I think the efficiency of regenerative braking is significantly diminished. My wife's car is a C-Max, and we love it. We definitely plan to replace it with another HEV or PHEV. However, based on the "scoring" her car provides, you need to feather-in the braking to maximize efficiency. Other than downhill runs, I don't know how well I would "score" off-road. (And I'm sure she won't let me use her car to find out.)

Again, not trying to shoot ideas down. It's just a topic that interests me, and I don't think I've seen anything to convince me of the benefits of an off-road EV... other than being green.

 

[BroncoBoy22]

I understand the regeneration, but even there, once off road, I think the efficiency of regenerative braking is significantly diminished. My wife's car is a C-Max, and we love it. We definitely plan to replace it with another HEV or PHEV. However, based on the "scoring" her car provides, you need to feather-in the braking to maximize efficiency. Other than downhill runs, I don't know how well I would "score" off-road. (And I'm sure she won't let me use her car to find out.)

Again, not trying to shoot ideas down. It's just a topic that interests me, and I don't think I've seen anything to convince me of the benefits of an off-road EV... other than being green.

I’m waiting to see what PHEV Bronco options we’re gonna have

 

[Jook13]

For the next few years I'm definitely not interested in any EV for offroad. Maybe when every gas station allows you to fully charge in under 5 minutes and I can take a 5 gallon can of electricity with me....

 

[Superds]

I understand the regeneration, but even there, once off road, I think the efficiency of regenerative braking is significantly diminished. My wife's car is a C-Max, and we love it. We definitely plan to replace it with another HEV or PHEV. However, based on the "scoring" her car provides, you need to feather-in the braking to maximize efficiency. Other than downhill runs, I don't know how well I would "score" off-road. (And I'm sure she won't let me use her car to find out.)

Again, not trying to shoot ideas down. It's just a topic that interests me, and I don't think I've seen anything to convince me of the benefits of an off-road EV... other than being green.

I can appreciate what your concerns are and I’m not certain of the answers, just trying to put some ideas out there.
Other than being green, I can think of the ability to have an occasional use vehicle that you don’t have to wrench on between 4 wheeling trips. When my family was more into 4 wheeling I was constantly fixing them before and after our trips, of course these were 30 year old vehicles. Another is cheap to operate, if you tow it to the trail or it’s close to home you can save a bunch on fuel.

 

[CJay]

Well, I'll leave it at this...
When off-roading in an electric vehicle, it's probably best to use the buddy system.
And make sure your buddy has a big generator.

Sadly, if the BMW i3 had been an REx, it would have had the generator built in.

 

[Clint Callahan]

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When is saw the first video of the bronco off roading, I couldn’t help but notice the slick little dance move it did on the turn About 0:26 in... the first thought I had was

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!!! It’s got me super excited- mostly because I think this is something more than just locking differentials doing their thing... I have high hopes we are going to be learning more about this whole GOAT system Ford is slowly exposing to us soon. And that may have been something... even if it wasn’t even quite a quarter tank turn

 

[BAUS67]

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I've never seen this before in a street legal vehicle. Lots of construction equipment (bobcats and dozers )

 

[CJay]

I'd forgotten all about this thread until someone reacted to a post.
So while I'm back on this topic...
Lordstown Motors Endurance Race Truck Called It Quits After 40 Miles of Baja’s San Felipe 250 (thedrive.com)

I know a similar article was posted on a new thread, but that broke down to a debate between Big Coal, Big Solar, Big Oil, Big Wind,... Personally, other than nuclear, it's all solar energy to me.

Getting back to the topic of this thread... off-road EV's still seem sketchy to me.

I know Jeep is planning Trailhead Chargers, which will likely be fine for early adopters, but when you get to the trailhead and the chargers are in use, do you make the rest of your group wait until you can connect and top off?

 

[Norm A.]

We all know Ford and Rivian have a little partnership going on and one can assume that this is how they planned to provide Amazon with the full electric fleet.... just seeing that this was posted as a “future vehicle” on the Ford website and the All electric F-150 was not yet could we be seeing the rivian rebranded skateboard underneith this upcoming vehicle? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the Rivian RT1 midsize? (Full size by weight) this skateboard and tech could possibly find its way to Bronco!

I saw the Amazon commercial for the new electric delivery van and I've got to say if they put white Bronco lettering on the grille it could be a new Bronco van in Area 51 LOL

 

[CJay]

I saw the Amazon commercial for the new electric delivery van and I've got to say if they put white Bronco lettering on the grille it could be a new Bronco van in Area 51 LOL

Maybe with a Sasquatch package. Otherwise that breakover angle sucks.

 

[NotaVegetarian]

Drop in a small diesel generator and go everywhere. Whoohoo all of the best 4 wheel drive electric with a diesel, that’s the best of everything in a small package.

 

[mtap]

No matter how cool or how awesome the techs are in EVs...nothing can replace the smell of dino fuel....just sayin.

 

[CJay]

No matter how cool or how awesome the techs are in EVs...nothing can replace the smell of dino fuel....just sayin.

I agree, but I prefer to tell people my truck is solar powered by means of a Mesozoic Solar Charged Fluidic Energy Storage System.

I probably should work on that a bit so it has a cool acronym.

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