Chesapeake Bronco Club

If you're around the Chesapeake Bay, or close enough to it (MD, DE, PA, VA), join the club!

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frinesi2
For those who are unaware, @rcbickle, @perfectburrito, and others have been putting together a MD/PA/DE/VA Volume Buyer's Group. Lots of great info in their thread:

Maryland Volume Buyer's Group

Any questions are best directed to that thread and the folks involved. I'll sticky this post for posterity.
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DealerInsider
Hi again everyone...I have been helping people get the A/Z/D/X pricing and invoice pricing on builds...if anyone needs this, feel free to DM me the pdf build and ill send you a DORA back showing the pricing...

also, we are honor A/Z/D/X pricing...so, if your dealer is giving you a hard time, I will be able to help...

in reference to the X plan pricing, we are offering Invoice MINUS 3%, which is better than X plan...

so whether you transfer your order to me, or just have general questions, feel free to reach out, im here to help!
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rcbickle
Hello one and all! Sorry I have been unusually quiet but here at the rcbickle homestead, it has been a busy December and January and my day job has kept me BUSY!

Excuses aside, today is Bronco-Order-Eve! I would like to encourage all members that are ordering new Broncos to post their order conversions and discuss what they finally decided. Also, make sure you give a shoutout to your dealer, especially if they have gone the extra mile and made the order experience a positive one! We have had some great dealer support (@NayNay , @StephensAutoCenter , @Granger Ford are three examples!) to date and I am sure the dealers would not mind a "thank you" from us!
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lowmpg
lowmpg
My Order with @NayNay

Badlands, 2dr.
Cactus Grey
2.7/10spd
Luxury Package
Sasquatch Package
Pod Lights
Paint Protection Film
Mesh Bimini top
mcalpal
mcalpal
@lowmpg I'm back and forth on the Pod lights, looking at Rigid ones on amazon has a lot of different types of pod light (flood, spot, diffused) and I'm not sure what the B&P ones are. What made you decide to get them?
lowmpg
lowmpg
@mcalpal I've had tons of lights and lightbars. Rigid makes a solid setup and more importantly, wiring through the body and into the cowl to attach lights would be horrific. The AUX wires will most likely be in the drivers foot well, so you'll need to run wiring to both sides of the truck (no thanks). Most quality Rigid pods are in the hundreds of dollars, so the price isn't absurd and if I choose to go with another light later, the wiring is done.
frinesi2
frinesi2
I decided to bow out on the Bronco (for now) for financial reasons but I had better see yous guys at Rausch! The Pajero will have gotten a little love by this Fall so it should be a fun.
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rcbickle
@frinesi2 hey! No worries. The later model years have been looking better of late anyway!!! Now you can save up for the Heritage or Warthog!
frinesi2
frinesi2
@rcbickle can't say that hasn't crossed my mind XD
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Sarah107
I went with the four door badlands manual with the dual tops and lux package. I ordered yesterday with Bob Bell in Glen Burnie and they were great!!
DealerInsider
Hi everyone! Local Philly dealer here...if you need help with anything or have any questions about Bronco, shoot me a DM...new to the forum (& late to the party) and been trying to contribute the best I can
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DealerInsider
Hi everyone! Local Philly dealer here...if you need help with anything or have any questions about Bronco, shoot me a DM...new to the forum and been trying to contribute the best I can
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lowmpg
Ok, every dealer I've spoken with has now gone radio silent (Koons of Annapolis, Apple Ford, Hertrich Ford) does any Maryland dealer want to sell a Bronco? :)

I'm seriously looking to move my order to a dealer that actually contacts me hahahaha.
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rcbickle
This week's article: Keystone State Five

As you might imagine, a state as large and with the topographical variety of Pennslyvania has much to offer in terms of outdoor experiences and offroading opportunities. Offering a variety of private and public lands to explore as well as a variety of experiences from rock crawling to trail driving, Pennslyvania is one of the premier offroading locations east of the Mississippi.

In a short article, it is not possible to cover all of the opportunities, but the author will offer a few examples that will hopefully give Bronco owners a place to start exploring and maybe even generate some conversation from the 6G community on places that I did not mention in this article.

Raunch Creek Offroad Park
Pine Grove, PA
https://www.rc4x4.org/

Considered one of the premier offroad parks, Rauch Creek offers offroading experiences for every level of the driver. Trying not to repeat previous articles, the author encourages reading the earlier article and accompanying discussion that focuses on this destination only.

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Darkwater OHV Trail & Reading Anthracite OHV Trail
Pottsville, Pennsylvania
https://readingoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/FRO-SouthProperty-Darkwater-Map.pdf

Offering a 31.9 mile loop, the Dark Water OHV Trail offers a scenic lake as part of the drive. Darkwater trails are suitable for ATVS, Dirt Bikes, Full Sized Vehicles and non-motorized vehicles, so you will be sharing the trail. After exploring the loop trail, another trail in the area, the Reading Anthracite Trail, is a 20.7 mile point-to-point trail that you can also explore. With both wooded and open land driving, this area is great for all levels of Bronco owners. There are various low lying areas where mud pits have accumulated so there is no reason to bring your Bronco home clean.

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Rock Run Recreation Area
Patton, PA
https://www.rockrunrecreation.com/

Open only April to October, Rock Run is an offroading park that requires an entrance fee for the vehicle/driver and each passenger. Advertising 140 miles of trails, those accessible to Broncos are far less. Offering stunning vistas of the Allegheny Mountains, the trails at Rock Run are designed for a wide variety of off-road vehicles so be prepared to share the area with UTVs, ATVs, Motorcycles, etc. Rock Run also offers 350 primitive campsites which are available for $12 per night for a group of six, so bring your other offroad toys in tow with your Bronco and stay the weekend. Check out the website or the Facebook site for events since this is a popular destination.

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Llewellynhose OHV Trail
Llewellynhose, PA
https://www.alltrails.com/explore/trail/us/pennsylvania/llewellynhose-ohv-trail

Located between Pottsville and Rauch Creek areas, the Llewellynhouse Trail is known for an offroading experience with one of the best opportunities to see wildlife from the comfort of your Bronco in Pennsylvania. A massive 45.6-mile loop trail, expect scenic vistas as well as views of the forest. This is probably one of the better trails in Pennsylvania if you want to get a taste of backcountry trekking.

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Scrublands OHV Park
Templeton, PA
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ScrubgrassOVH
https://www.riderplanet-usa.com/atv/trails/info/pennsylvania_14590/ride_f71d.htm

Located Northeast of Pittsburg in Western, PA Scrubgrass is over 1,200 acres large encompassing more than 60 miles of OHV and Jeep trails. This location is another park that charges admission, so check on prices before you go. Offering trails for every difficulty level from beginner to expert, every Bronco owner should be able to find a trail suited for their skill (and/or fear level of scratches, dents, etc.). The park features 18 miles of trails just for experts as well as steep hill climb areas, rock crawling areas, and a grass terrain track. Also offering primitive campsites, you can augment your offroading with kayaking, tubing, fishing, and during select times of the year, hunting. Make sure you call before you go since they close for special events on a regular basis. At last check, this park was still in business, but their website was no longer working.

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Hope this "Starter" list gives you some ideas to get you and your Bronco into the wild. If you have your own recommendations or favourite spots, please add them to the comment section!
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rcbickle
This Week's Article: Places to Explore in Delaware

Delaware is the second smallest state, measuring only 96 miles (North to South), and only 35 miles across at its widest point. That means that DE does not have as much area as the surrounding states so off-roading opportunities are equally limited. With nearly a million people living in DE, and likely many offroad vehicles, those areas that are available are going to be crowded. On a positive note, Delaware may have more Broncos eventually per square mile of state so maybe beyond their claim to being the First State, they may be able to claim to be a Bronco State!

Many offroading blogs talk about and recommend the C&D Canal Trails in Northern DE. The Canals there are clay and gravel roads, but at last look off-road vehicle traffic is prohibited and a little investigation by this author found police blogs where they had conducted targeted enforcement actions. Just a friendly reminder, illegal activity is not condoned and we don't want Bronco owners getting a reputation for lawlessness, not being good stewards of our planet, or not being respectful to the environment. Our advice is to check with local law enforcement, obey all posted signs, and only go where it is legal.

After some research, it appears that offroading in the state, county, and municipal parks is not allowed anywhere in Delaware, meaning there is no off-roading on public land in Delaware (There is a seashore fishing exception that will be discussed later in the article). If a reader is aware of public places allowing offroading in Delaware, let the author know and I will update the article.

So now that we have discussed where you can't go, you might be wondering, is there anywhere to go in the state? Well yes, but they are very far and few between. Again, if any reader has identified other places they recommend, please let the author know!

MuddyNutz Play Ground

MuddyNutz (meaning Muddy LUG Nuts) is a small offroad park located in Dover. Offering more than just mud, they also have trails and obstacles to test your skills. Although their web presence is minimal, they do have a business website on Facebook at:

https://www.facebook.com/MuddyNutzPlayGround/

Under current conditions, their hours vary so it makes sense to call them before driving there. They can be contacted at (302) 465-3611 or you can message them on Facebook.

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Cape Henlopen, Fenwick Island, and Delaware Seashore State Park

Delaware State Parks limits sand-bound vehicles to park for surf fishing purposes only. That means anyone parking on a Delaware State Park beach needs to be "actively engaged" in fishing and must have a valid surf fishing vehicle permit.

Bronco owners can purchase the permit online, at any park office, at the Parks Central Office in Dover, and at a handful of retailers throughout the state. Annual permit prices range from $70 to $160.

Recreational beach driving beyond designated areas for surf fishing is not allowed. Channel your inner elementary school days because single-file parking is required on these beaches in an effort to limit high occupancy. A guide for taking your Bronco into the sand can be found at:

https://www.destateparks.com/wwwroo...OBS-SurfFishingBrochure-Maps_Regs-BRO0418.pdf

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rcbickle
This week's article: EXPLORE THE MARYLAND FOUR!

This week we talk about four Off-road trails in Maryland. Each trail offers different challenges and opportunities. It is important to remind those heading off into the wilderness to research the public trails with the National Park Service (NPS) or MD Department of Naural Resources (DNR), since trails are controlled by the NPS or the DNR and they have specific requirements for use. The recommended areas to explore are:

ASSATEAGUE ISLAND BEACH
Assateague is unique in that the island is both in Maryland and Virginia. The Maryland part of the island includes a 12-mile zone for off-roaders and allows up to 145 vehicles at any time.

In order to enter the off-road zone, you will need to obtain a permit. Fortunately, the permit is valid for both the Maryland and Virginia areas of the island. In particular, Assateague is known for its beach off-roading, which provides amazing views and the ability to enjoy sea fishing as well. For more information on the permit and regulations, check out the Assateague Island website.

https://www.nps.gov/asis/planyourvisit/osv.htm

As a side note, the nearby Wallops NASA facility is an active spaceport and, if you time your adventure correctly, you might even get to watch a launch of a resupply mission to the International Space Station.

https://www.nasa.gov/content/where-to-view-a-wallops-launch

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GARRETT STATE FOREST ORV TRAILS
The Garrett State Forest includes two off-road trails. The Piney Mountain off-road trail and the Snaggy Mountain trail. Off-road vehicles are required to register with the DNR and display a registration sticker. Garrett State Forest is made up of 7,000 acres of land located in Western Maryland. This trail system is a recommended destination for the Chesapeake Bronco Club!

https://dnr.maryland.gov/forests/Pages/orv/trails.aspx

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POTOMAC STATE FOREST ORV TRAILS
The Potomac State Forest is conveniently connected to the Garrett State Forest and provides access to four off-road trails. The Laurel Run Road Trail, Wallman Road Trail, and Backbone Mountain and Burkholder Road Trails provide several miles of off-road terrain that you can explore.

https://dnr.maryland.gov/forests/Pages/orv/trails.aspx

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SAVAGE RIVER STATE FOREST
Savage River State Forest provides four trails for off-roaders to explore. including the St. John’s Rock Trail, Meadow Mountain Trail, Margraff Plantation Trail, and Negro Mountain Trail. Savage is by far the largest park facility in Maryland, featuring over 54,000 acres of parkland.

https://dnr.maryland.gov/forests/Pages/savageguide.aspx

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mlcinema
Are there any good light off road trails in or around the Columbia Maryland area that I should go with my new Bronco? I guess I could start now, I have an Outback.

Thank you.
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rcbickle
If you are doing Christmas shopping for yourself or your favorite ADMIN, Wal*Mart has a gift back in stock for any future Bronco owner!
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rcbickle
This week's article: LET'S ROCK!

Some of you may want to test your Bronco, and your driver skills, in rock crawling. Although our area can not give you the Means Dry Lake Bed experience, home of King of the Hammers, there is an area for you to test metal on stone in PA. Rausch Creek Off-Road Park in Pine Grove, PA offers 3000 acres of off-road trails, including rock crawling areas. From their website:

"Rausch Creek Off-Road Park is devoted to providing a fun, legal place for off-road enthusiasts to go four-wheeling with their 4wd Jeep, truck, or SUV. The park consists of 3,000 acres of easy, intermediate, and difficult trails - featuring rocks, bowls, hills, club-friendly trails, and primitive camping."

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They also have areas for other off-road experiences, including water forging and mud pits for those U-Boat Commanders in our group.

You must join the club, $20, to use the park PLUS pay a $53 per day use fee for the driver and $12 per passenger. You also must ride in herds of at least two vehicles, so bring a friend!

Remember, a scratched rock rail is a happy rock rail!

Maybe another good place for the club to gather!
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MrJoe
MrJoe
I used to go there a lot. They have green trails for a mild experience up to RED for pro buggies. A new locked Bronco would have a good time on Blue trails. That's one step up from Green. Stay off of the Black unless you have 35's and two lockers.

This is a Black trail. Expect damage...

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frinesi2
frinesi2
I'll be there this Saturday in the Pajero! Was going to take the ZJ for one final trip (along with two other friends with ZJs) but it's broken down on me again so it's going on a flatbed to Disabled American Veterans tomorrow haha.

@beachman101 yeah it has everything from dirt roads with light water crossing to nuts rocks and very, very deep water. The super rough stuff makes for cooler pictures.

The Pajero can do all of the green trails and so far every blue trail I've taken it on. I'd expect that a 2 door Badsquatch could do most of the blues and maybe some of the blacks if you don't mind a beating.
porjos
porjos
This is only an hour away from me! It's absolutely beautiful Appalachia country down there ('up' for you Marylanders).

Also @beachman101, as someone else stated, they have easy trails there. If I had a 4x4 beater with some aftermarket juice, I'd do the tougher trails...but frankly, I don't want paint scratches on my beautiful Cyber Orange paint-job (at least while I'm financing it). It's good for people that want to get out in nature and put your vehicle through some paces, without the danger of rolling or submerging your rig :D

Also, the abandoned mining town of Centralia (with the underground coal burning fire) is relatively close by for a little creepy adventure.
rcbickle
I am originally from California where a drive to Pismo Beach and Oceano Dunes was a regular offroading adventure. Here on the East Coast, we too can enjoy that "Bronco on the Beach" experience and should be a destination for a gathering. Although not in our own area, NC and the Outer Banks and Cape Hatteras National Seashore is not that far! This may be a great way to close out next summer after many will hopefully have Broncos to show off. Regardless, it should be on your Bronco bucket list:

"Long stretches of shoreline between Carova, North Carolina, and the Hatteras Inlet ‚ÄĒ plus parts of Ocracoke Island ‚ÄĒ are open to drivers with off-road vehicle permits either seasonally or year-round. During the winter, you can even drive at night on the beaches of the national seashore, where beach bonfires are permitted. The northern end of the Outer Banks is especially remote."

https://www.outerbanks.org/plan-your-trip/beaches/driving-on-the-beach/

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porjos
porjos
Alright, it's settled. I am going down in winter time for some night beach driving and a bonfire. That sounds fantastic.
cybersal
cybersal
Looks awesome! One day!
ILoveTacos
ILoveTacos
If things go as planned I'll be there the end of June with our new Bronco! Keeping my fingers crossed that it gets delivered in time for our vacation.
rcbickle
I don’t know if any of you were planning on going to Sheehy Ford of Richmond in December for their Bronco event, but it appears to have been canceled for this year. Could have been a great chance to touch something before many of us buy. I really envy those of you with classic Broncos! Much less stress.
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rcbickle
Hello fellow members of the Chesapeake Herd! I have been asked by @frinesi2 to help out with building our club! Please let me know what you all would like to see and do. I know that in these times of COVID19 face-to-face (Bronco to Bronco) meetings might be limited, but we can start building a great virtual club and get together once things ease a bit more. Please post anything of relevance so we can start seeing things in relation to Ford, Broncos, or pure fun in our area!
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Hi! Forum lurker from Lewes, De and Severn, Md. I have my reservation currently with Boulevard Ford (Preston Ford). I went with a Delaware Dealer instead of paying the higher taxes and tags to Larry Hogan but for the right deal, I would be willing to lift and shift for a group buy if the numbers add up.

Almost forgot! 2Dr Base MT in Velocity Blue or Silver. Want an “O.M.T“ vibe. Wish that dang White Top was available now.

Anybody else dealing with Preston or Boulevard?
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frinesi2
frinesi2
Yes, NayNay has a valid point - the state where you REGISTER the vehicle is where you'll pay the taxes. I'm going through a dealer in Kansas City but I'll still have to pay MD taxes.

Based on your statement, I'm a little unclear, though. Do you have a (non-shady) way to register in DE?
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LowerSlowerDelaware
I own a house in Lewes and my SWO and Daughter are De residents. Nothing shady or illegal plus De titling tax is about 3.45% and no Sales Tax.

Sorry for being unclear and if I were to join a group buy in Md or any other state, I would still be tagging it in De.
NayNay
NayNay
That makes sense
Bob davidson says no markup!

yay
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rcbickle
rcbickle
Thank you for the information. Although there are many reasons to pick one dealer or another, on price Bob Davidson is not competitive with other offers available to the 6G community:

@StephensAutoCenter in West VA is at $1000 below invoice. It is a bit of a drive for some to West Virginia, but there are good trails along the way back.
Leonardtown Ford in MD (@NayNay) offers a choice of 3% off MSRP or 1% over Invoice if you have a X-Plan pin. They are offering a discount on dealer-installed accessories and offer free delivery to your location.
Richmond Ford in VA is offering MSRP plus $1300 in service credit and a warranty package. Good for those in the Richmond area.
Brewster Ford in NY is offering at invoice plus low dealer fees. May be closer for some in PA, NY, NJ, etc.
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cybersal
cybersal
Thanks for posting the information from Bob Davidson. It's worth it to me to save 3% off of MSRP to buy at Leonardtown Ford. Great news about the modular painted hard top. I'm thinking to get the top later. Now the question is white (to paint yellow) or Velocity Blue which does look sweet.
KindaOrange
Do you all think Ford released this thing without a full plan?

Seems like all they had was a concept... and demand kinda surprised them? Just seems like they've had to pull together capacity so last minute & the overall rollout seems premature on their end. Like they were unprepared...

Thoughts?
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Futbolover92
They had a plan, they just didn't realize that it was a bad plan and now they're left scrambling to fulfill demand (especially with the supply chain being hamstrung by the virus) (Edit: bad plan because they underestimated how long the impacts would be. If the virus blew over then it would have most likely been a good plan)
KindaOrange
KindaOrange
@MrJoe I'm also curious how much converts... On one hand: I'd like to move up a spot or two (or 10,000). But on the other hand: I'd like to have more Bronco friends to make :)
porjos
porjos
Honestly, I think they had a much 'fuller' plan before the global economy took a dump, and the pandemic hit. Keep in mind the Bronco has been in development for years - strategic development most likely designed a full roadmap of how this thing was going to come out. I think the reveal itself was going to be a lot more interactive, and I think the Bronco Rodeos were going to be more frequent and more numerous - it's a unique way not only support your customer base, but as marketing as well. All the later items, like actual B&P, accessories, and final price-points were to follow after with targeted consumer feedback, in an orderly and timed fashion.

Then comes COVID, and I'm not just talking about how the country essentially shutdown for months on end...I'm talking full impact. All the sudden timelines were majorly screwed up - internally & externally, financial institutions are in panic mode, supply chains are disrupted, any mass public events are now a corporate liability - the automakers are hit the worst with this - the Bronco is a consumer product, not a necessity. Massive corporations employing tens of thousands of workers, with multiple global initiatives, don't take well to sudden changes.

With ALLLLL that said, everything has become a last minute decision, and it shows. The very pandemic that is throwing wrenches in the original plan, every which way, is also the very thing that fueling so much passion from a consumer base that just wants to get out and be normal again.

I know I'm in the minority by far, but overall I'm super proud of how Ford is doing. Sure, communication could be better, and information could be released in much more orderly fashion - but I'm not like most of the people on this forum that like to nit-pick every small thing, or feel entitled to a discount for something that is not a necessity.

At the end of the day - we have a beautiful vehicle, where the heritage was respected, at a price-point that makes the value of it's direct competitor (Jeep Wrangler) look unworthy. You get a lot more vehicle for $30,000 in the Bronco, than the Wrangler (you don't even get air-conditioning, haha).

Sorry for the long post - I think it's partially because a lot of this forum has been super negative the last two months.
frinesi2
frinesi2
@porjos well stated. I'm in agreement. They clearly had a plan, and a very detailed one at that. For the level of investment that they had put in to this new platform, they couldn't afford NOT to. But that plan didn't have (and frankly, couldn't have had) contingencies in it for a total breakdown of this scale.

If you've ever tried to work with very large corporations, you'll know that they move at a GLACIAL pace. Things take ages. Also keep in mind, the Bronco program is one of dozens upon dozens of efforts that Ford is working on at any given time.

Their priorities and timeline simply can never match the expectations of a fanbase that is interested in just this one single project, regardless of how important it is to their bottom line.
Futbolover92
@porjos Totally agree with you! I feel like I should clarify with my previous comment that they had a plan, and didn't realize it was a bad one in light of COVID. Mainly that they had this big rollout just like you said, but they vastly underestimated how badly and how long they would be affected by it and that is their problem. If that had never happened then this would have been an amazing rollout I bet, but they just got caught flat footed and couldn't pivot.
frinesi2
Gonna be going up to Gettysburg Campground with the family this Saturday. Anybody else going camping this weekend?
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KindaOrange
KindaOrange
Girlfriend & I go camping when the weathers nice ūüėĄūüĎć
Rainy this weekend though...
frinesi2
frinesi2
Haha that's a good rule. This was just an overnight. Rain held off until the ride home!
KindaOrange
Anybody seen photos of a Black Diamond?

Non-squatch model with the steelies... Has Ford not produced any yet?
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Scott MacLean
This logo is awesome. We could have our own state flags as a background with the uniform lettering. But, having said that, Lord Calvert's family crest is pure awesome!
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KindaOrange
Hi people. Excited to own an off-road vehicle for once. Went on an awesome trip in college (James Madison) with a buddy. Jeep up the side of some dirt/mud trail with the snow falling down, out in the Appalachias. Fog on top made the mountains look all "ghosty."

After college, been stuck in the city for awhile & I guess Corona has me missing the Wild. Excited for this new Bronco adventure!
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Red Mountain Pass
Hey everyone - Retired Army here, chilling in Fredericksburg for now.

Plan on purchasing a 2 Dr Base Squatch with 2.7L

Look forward to working some trails with y'all
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frinesi2
So what Cars and Coffee -type events does everybody frequent (or frequented before covid)?

I try to go to Hunt Valley Horsepower when I can, they usually have a pretty big turnout with a LOT of variety. Plenty of offroaders of every kind and occasionally single-make/model clubs turning out in force.

I know there's a big show down in Potomac, where else?
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Quick question, do all you guys have a reservation on the 2021 bronco?
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ILoveTacos
Glad I discovered this group. Will be great to make some new friends and go on some adventures together. I'm on the Eastern shore of MD.
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