Michigan Bronco Club

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Mattwings
So, Tuesday night, my son hit a deer on the way to the cabin. He didn’t really want to get it fixed and have $2500-$3k in repairs on a $7k truck. He ended up leasing a new Ranger, based on the crazy incentives they have going right now. Bottom line, the dealer in Tawas was super nice , very helpful and easy to deal with. I asked about Broncos and they actually knew quite a bit, even with only 15 orders. They had a color book (Area 51 and Cactus Grey look noooothing like they do in pictures, Cactus is really nice). I asked if they expected to get their orders filled in a timely manner and they said there representative was not clear on how the orders would be filled, but they would take my questions to their rep. I really want to move my order. My local guy has been fine, but I really liked the small town vibe and feel like they will bend over backwards to take care of me. Any thoughts on switching? I did refer another member here to him and have nothing bad to say about Holzer, but having a dealer where I seem to actually matter was nice.
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Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
Do whatever you feel comfortable doing. You get A/Z plan right? So you don’t have to try and negotiate. If you feel comfortable working with him, that’s a huge part of the battle won. I hate the way some of these sales guys are so high strung and high pressure, it makes it so much better to not feel like you’re getting hustled. I would make sure they don’t do a bunch of hidden add ons, but if he’ll give you a good agreement in writing, go for it.
Trustable
Trustable
I would just go wherever you like it and feel like your being treated well. With any of the plans, you don't have to negotiate on anything except a trade in. From what it sounds like you had a good experience at that other dealer, and if your son has a good experience during service too, I don't see a reason not to switch.
etmccaus86
I was out running errands this afternoon in Brighton, and managed to quickly pull into traffic behind a Sasquatched 4-door in Rapid Red.

My phone sucks, windshield was dirty, and I only got a couple shots off before the driver jumped on the expressway, but a few meh photos are still better than no photos, right? Didn't get a good enough look at grille or fender badges before it went on its way, so I don't know which trim level it was.

Nice to finally see a Sasquatched 4-door in person as it's pretty close to how I plan on ordering mine. Before I finally got on board with the MIC top, this would have been really close to how I'm ordering.





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Trustable
Trustable
Still way better than the grainy pics we usually see! Thanks! Never noticed how big the squatch fenders were until now, I can kinda understand why some people dont like them. Dont look bad though, just massive
Mattwings
Mattwings
Awesome, thanks for sharing! I would really like to check out the step in. I think the BD comes with rock rails, regardless of B&P issues, but I think I will want steps if I SQ. Hate to take rails off to add steps, but to make it the preferred car for the cabin, it has to have a certain level of comfort and accessibility for the old folks 👌🏽
etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@Mattwings I totally get it. I was going to hold off on either rails or steps for that reason, hoping the aftermarket would produce something that kind of splits the difference - BUT I'm interested again after having watched the second, Bronco-specific Ford SEMA session that noted the OE steps and rock rails share the same mount points/ brackets, theoretically making swapping between the two pretty easy.
Ksm
what did you think about the sasquatch height? I plan on going Black Diamond and was thinking of just getting a regular after market lift vs. committing to 35s but now I'm not sure. Does it look cartoonish? It looks giant compared to the Cherokee.
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@Ksm It's tall, but not cartoonish (like what Warthog seems to be shaping up to be). I think it looks pretty well balanced with the wide track and the 35s. I hink it looks pretty good, but YMMV.
Trustable
Anyone know about running the "max traction"/mud terrain tires in Michigan winters? I would seriously consider sasqautch if they were 3pms rated at the least. I cant find much information on the tires, only that they are sold under the name "territory" in canada. I Will probably be getting blizzaks a few years down the road regardless of if i go squatch or just the BD atx's, especially if I move out of SE Michigan.
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Mattwings
Mattwings
There is a TFL video where they interviewed the Good Year engineers. They mention they are being evaluated for the three peak rating. I was much more interested in them after watching this video.
ChrisKz
ChrisKz
If they were Swamppers, I'd consider changing them but the Territory tires should be fine.

In May of '16 I bought a JKU with Firestone M/T and drove 4 winters in Grand Rapids with them and never experienced an issue. Maybe you can't go as fast and/or need a little more room to stop but the tires and the vehicle are only tools of the driver.
Trustable
Trustable
Thank you guys, was potentially looking at basesquatch depending on how much A plan takes off plus a trade in. Was also looking at selling my focus on carvana instead of trade in, any body ever used it? I saw the car vending machine in Brighton one time on my way home from up north, it was wild looking.
ChrisKz
Anyone know of demo / display models at dealerships in SE Michigan? I'm 99% sure I'm going Black Diamond and now the question is Sasquatch or non. I know the 35" tires will look better but I'm hoping I can see the standard BD with my own eyes to make an educated decision vs a guess.
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ChrisKz
ChrisKz
I contacted Bill Brown and Holzer and neither is expecting to have anything 😕
Mattwings
Mattwings
My sales guy from Holzer is going to call me when they get the dealer training set. He thinks I can at least get in and look over whatever model they bring to the training. It keeps getting delayed due to Covid. Now that cases are going up again, it’s possible they won’t even do in person training before we order.🥴
Mattwings
Mattwings
My dealer responded that they will have a couple of Bronco Sports in early December for training. May at least help if there is a Cactus Gray model? No Bronco training scheduled yet.
Trustable
Keep changing my mind....
I keep going BD->BB->BD->BB->BD and 2.3->2.7->2.3->2.7
I think ive settled on BD 2.7 for now, anyone else going back and forth?
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Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
I. Can’t. Even.
gamma_j
gamma_j
I keep going through BB, BD, and BL. Not so excited about that BL price tag when I'm done. BB and BD have most everything I want/need. I'm struggling with the soft top vs. the MIC grey hard top. I'd really like a black painted top but don't want to wait. I think I'm fine with either engine so that isn't as much of a factor for me.
Mattwings
Mattwings
If I could get the BD with cloth seats (and verify the rubber floor has similar sound deadening to the BB w/mid) I would be done and under my price target. I should probably just bite the bullet go BB, 2.7 rear locker and ditch the stock BB tires and go with a nice 275/70/17 AT and mod from there over time. My guess is for the first 60k miles it will take me anywhere I want to go. Once it’s paid for and has some miles, I am more likely to do more hardcore wheeling. Then I start thinking about the mods and realize the SQ package is a great deal and likely will cost about the same, but be better engineered and integrated than going to the aftermarket. Just need to see how tall it is. I don’t want to end up with no rack and or not fitting in the garage. I plan on keeping the Bronco for a long time, so garage is a big priority!
Trustable
Was just curious on the consensus with you guys regarding no mid package with manual on black diamond. The only true thing I wanted from that was the heated seats, but that's not possible by itself. I currently have heated seats in focus, but i do think i could live without them, but that vinyl is gonna be cold at 8am in January.
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sapsey
not nitpicking check out the screenshot above... I hope your right... I can't seem to see how to select it...
etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@sapsey You're looking at it incorrectly. Nowhere in your screen cap is there anything suggesting heated seats are incompatible with MGV. It only shows that ddding leather does also adds heated seats - but you can still add heated seats to a MGV interior if you add the Mid Package.


Here's a screen cap wherein I added Mid Package to a Black Diamond with MGV. Note the line circled in blue.

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etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@sapsey Since you mentioned "lux package" - note the first line in how Lux adds everything in High Package. Then note how the first line in High package adds everything in Mid package.

So, when you add Lux Package, you're inherently also adding Mid Package - which in turn, gives you those heated seats. Even with MGV surfaces. :)

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Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
sapsey
I think I got it.... thanks that’s awesome I thought I was going to have to give up heated seats and it’s cold here in Michigan!
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Trustable
Trustable
@etmccaus86 Yup, I've accepted no heated seats, to prepare, im not gonna use the heated seats in my focus for winter lol :p
etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@Trustable I'm just gonna install 'em myself.
Really, this just makes me want a base 4-door even more - but since it doesn't seem I can get it with a stick...stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Trustable
Trustable
@etmccaus86 Yeah I feel ya, having never owned a manual, but driven a couple, I do think I would enjoy it, and this may be one of the few vehicles left that can be driven year round and has a manual, if I went auto, I'd be getting the 2.7TT, but that bumps up the 2 door BD to like 42k, thats just with advanced 4x4/tow/mid. I can get the 2door manaul with no mid, but with tow and advanced 4x4 for about 39. The only thing i want from the mid package is heated seats, so I dont think its worth it to get all the other stuff I would probably use, but wouldnt miss. (I'd imagine the BLISS would be nice, but ive lived without it so far)
sapsey
Are you now going to tell me I can get rails with Sasquatch? 😀👍⭐
etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@sapsey Go to B&P and try it for yourself.
That has *NEVER* shown as a conflict for me.

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Trustable
Post a post on the forum about this, but haven't had a reply yet, maybe one of you guys will know... Any of you run catch cans in the winter. I'm worried about condensation filling it up fast and that I may forget to empty it weekly, what are your thoughts?
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McCracken
McCracken
You can get catch cans with a drain tube that flows back to crankcase I believe, but i'm not sure I want that oil going back to the motor. I would rather have it captured, and empty after every oil change.
Mattwings
Mattwings
I know it has been beaten to death, but I am still curious how different the 2.3 vs. 2.7 will be in driving dynamics. I think the power from the 2.3 will be fine for most off raod (and on road) situations. I also think the 2.3 will be noticeable in terms of weight and driving dynamics. 100+ lbs, in the front of the vehicle, plus the overall packaging being more centralized should equate to better off road performace in most situations (those looking at 35" plus tires, big lifts and mud or paddled sand tires being the norm are already buying the 2.7 I assume). But if it's not that much better, the 2.7 is just an awesome motor with lots of room for tuning, plus still likley delivering overall lower total cost of ownership. I am 97.3% decided on the 2.7, but it is an interesting subject to ponder!
McCracken
McCracken
@Mattwings I am 100% getting the 2.7TT V6. No way I could go from my 3.5TT to a 2.3 4 cylinder. I am sure it has power/torque, but is it "fun" to drive? The 2.7 will be "fun", and I won't feel like I am taking a huge step backwards on power.
Mattwings
Mattwings
My 2.7 is certainnly addicting. I do wonder how Ford managed to get the Bronco up to F150 weight. Maybe 100lb difference? The 2.3 ends up about 230lbs lighter than an f150 supercrew, 2.7 about 100lbs less, from what I can gather.
etmccaus86
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever purchased a new vehicle from a dealer outside of Michigan, and dealt with the titling/ registration/ taxation involved? Especially curious if you've done that and had a secured interest (finance/ lienholder) involved.

I'm bored of ranting about top colors and option constraints, so figured I'd start doing homework on this, since - like at least a few of you - I'll be taking delivery in Iowa.
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kplumb09
Following for same curiosity, although I'm likely going to WV. My guess is you will have to secure the loan including everything (vehicle, taxes, fees) then the financial institution will cut you two separate checks, one to pay the dealer and then the other to pay the state taxes once you get back and register in the state.
etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@kplumb09 Not a bad idea to have the second check cut, but wondering about what to do when it comes to applying for title. If I'm issued an out-of-state title w/ lienholder noted, it looks as if things are tricky.
Mattwings
Mattwings
I have done it and it adds a bit of complication, but nothing that can’t be worked out ahead of time. My only issue was making sure the lien holder information was correct on the paperwork with the dealer and to connect the dealer to my credit union. Whoever is loaning you the $ wants their name on the title documents at inception. My CU has been pretty awesome, so they approved my loan over the phone and worked out the process with the dealer. I was putting decent money down and both parties just let me sign and drive it away👍🏽
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@Mattwings Right. My current truck was bought new in-state but I handled ALL the transaction between my bank and dealer; dealer did not work directly with my CU whatsoever.

THAT SAID - the second paragraph of this page gives me pause. If I'm issued an out-of-state title at purchase with lienholder noted at that time, then it seems like trying to get a MI title is difficult, if not impossible? Guess I could live with that, though I do wonder what further hoops have to be jumped through once it's paid off.

https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-5647_12539_48268-28933--,00.html
Mattwings
Mattwings
The out of state dealer should be able to send the title work through MI directly. I would ask whichever dealer you are working with, Granger must be doing some with several states.
etmccaus86
etmccaus86
@Mattwings Yeah, I plan on asking Albert when he's not completely being bombarded with emails (sooooo...maybe in November? lol).

Just was curious if anyone here had done it before I go pester Granger.
Nite93
Who's everyone's Bronco reservations through? Also, how much communication with the dealership do you have?
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Trustable
Trustable
Jack Demmer, i got 3 emails from them so far without me prompting. But everytime I do ask a question, they are quick to respond and are honest.
DasQball
Milnes Lapeer here, haven't asked them... When I did they responded. Now we have build and price, I'll call them to see what they might do for Xplan being removed.
gamma_j
gamma_j
Seelye in Kalamazoo. Initial communication was sent from a salesperson there and got an email back on xplan pricing prior to the news that xplan doesn't apply to Bronco. Sent an email about a couple other details to him and the sales manager and never heard back. I did inquire at Varsity and they were very good, but may end up at Granger depending on how everything goes!
Philly
What are everyone's thoughts on engine block heaters? I have never had one in a car I've owned and neither has anyone I know, but I did a little digging and apparently they are beneficial to prevent unnecessary wear on the engine in any conditions below 5 degrees Fahrenheit. Obviously, we get well below that on occasion here in Michigan.

Does anyone use one of these consistently in the winter? Is it worth the $100 just to have it?
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McCracken
McCracken
Do you park outside at night in the winter? If so, might be worth it.
Mattwings
Mattwings
Back in the day of 10/15/20w-30/40/50w Dino oil it could be really beneficial. With 0/5w 20/30w oil flows pretty well in any of the low temps we see in much of MI. I knew people that had oil pump shafts break in cold weather with “summer” oil back in the day 👨🏼‍🦳. I am not sure how much difference it makes in the actual time to get to operating temperature. It is hard on an engine to run short distances, not getting up to operational temperature and shutting off again. Maybe it would help in that scenario? My wife has a 1.5mi commute and I know it is hard on the engine. I try and start her car a few minutes prior to her leaving so it has a bitter chance to “warm up”.
Philly
Philly
I park outside all winter and I am from Highland, so just north of Milford. I have remote start in my Jeep and use that for 10-15 minutes before driving it most mornings it's cold, but I was reading that even starting it to idle when it's that cold can be bad for the longevity of your engine. I might just get it because it's only $100. I plan to keep my Bronco forever if it holds up so I guess it's better to have it and never use it than wish I had it later. I think I was more wondering if anybody had one and used it regularly, or experienced any problems because they didn't.

I have had my jeep fo 7 years and it's at about 130,000 miles. At least 80,0000 of those it's been kept outside and started this way so I am thinking whatever additional wear happens can't be very significant.
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@Philly I've been thinking the same, since mine will be parked outside (not far from you, actually).
Thinking of using it proactively in winter just to be safe. Wondering if it might have an impact on GDI dilution issues in extreme weather. And since it's only $100 and I know I couldn't easily install it myself for that price...might as well.
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Mattwings
I just talked to my salesperson at Holzer. Good news, as long as I don't order anything to off the wall (which I am not) they are not asking for additional deposit from me. Some "bad" news. Still no color book and they still have not gone through training with the facory reps. He mentioned Covid is really making face to face meetings and scheduling certain things very difficult. I am going to test drive a Ranger again in the next two weks and hold off on ordering until the end, to hopefully have a first hand look at the colors and where possible, the colors on actual vehicles where possible. They are seeing some colors come in that are shared with other 21s.
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McCracken
So, with no X-plan, does anyone have a Michigan dealer that is not going to screw them over with ADM or doc fees...
I guess we don't know until B&P comes and prices are known, but I will work with my locale dealer in Cadillac, and see what they will do. If I don't like it, I will switch to another regional dealer, or Stephens.
We should help each other and if you have a good dealer with reasonable fees and out the door price, please share...the more info we have walking into a dealer, the better for us, the buyer.
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Mattwings
Mattwings
Thanks, I will do some investigating.
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sapsey
I'm with Avis Ford on Telegraph I think the address is Southfield they are giving me x pricing to keep my business with them maybe they will give you x pricing to move over? My sales guy... Joshua Prieto Your Bronco Specialist at Avis Ford (313) 969-7483
Trustable
Trustable
I actually just got an email back from Jack demmer ford. Said they feel that ford will change their decision on the xplan. Also said that jack demmer will make allowances but they cannot guarantee x plan pricing. lastly they said "I can guarantee you will not pay sticker, we will discount your cost" I really like that dealership, service department is easy going and friendly, so is the quick lane across the street.
Gr8Hortoni
Where would you be going/what would you be doing Labor Day weekend with your bronco?

I would probably be doing a day long trail ride north. I’ve got White Cloud to Mesick mapped with less than 10 miles on pavement. Maybe stop at Chase Creek Smokehouse for lunch, or ride right through to Mesick then over to Boone’s for the famous Prime Rib.

Or perhaps I’d do a couple days in Grayling and ride the trails and ranges (if they aren’t running drills. Funny story for another time), set camp up for the weekend at River Park Campground.

just a couple of my adventures I’ve done before and can’t wait to do again with my Bronco.
What’s your idea of a holiday excursion?
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Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
For those that are interested in trying some overland wheeling, this looks like it could be a cool trip for a long weekend. Some YouTube videos of it as well, search “7 hour plane crash trail”. It was mentioned on an overland page I follow on fb.

https://www.michiganoverland.com/seven-hour-plane-crash-trail/
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FYI...friend of mine just posted they have a Cactus Grey Bronco Sport at Royal Oak Ford.
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kplumb09
Im planning to head over there in a couple hours, I'm about 10 min away, I asked how long it should be there.
kplumb09
Sorry guys, marketing Rep was only there for a little bit, its already gone.
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gamma_j
@kplumb09 Dang. I needed some pictures of CG posted so I could be even more confused about this color!
Trustable
Trustable
I've seen quite a few sports on 275. They usually get off on the ann arbor road exit towards livonia. Saw an area 51 one last week. I'm for sure getting that color now unless they randomly add some green color.
Mattwings
If anyone would like my salesman contact at Holzer in Farmington Hills, I can pass it along. I have no idea if they will match the out of state deals and he is new to me (my last guy passed way recently, bad deal). He was pretty up to date on the recent allocation and pricing discussions and fairly quick to respond. Personally, I would not want to deal with all of the tax, title and financing issues of buying in one state and transferring to another, but I have Z plan, so I already have pretty good pricing.
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gamma_j
Yeah thats really good. Mine is at 2.59 right now. I don't think I went through them for my out of state purchases, so you're right, that is certainly something I hadn't considered.
Mattwings
Mattwings
I don't think it is a big issue, it's just a step to coordinate beforehand. On the flip side, I have had my credit union approve a loan, over the phone, while I was sitting at a dealership. They got off with me, got on with the dealership and arranged direct payment. I just wrote my down payment check and off I went. There is no bank that would do that for me.
Mattwings
Mattwings
Just FYI, I verified with my dealer that the $500 deposit can be used in a different vehicle if I don’t take delivery for some reason. I expect I could get a refund, but a Ranger of F150 will be my alternative if the Bronco is somehow wonky or takes forever. My lease extension does end September 2021.
Mattwings
Anyone been to Holly Oaks ORV park that opened last week? I am curious to hear some reports. It's not someplace I would likely go every weekend, but having something in Metro Detroit is cool. I have my DR 350 dual sport apart, replacing the clutch. If I get it together, I may try and check it out on my MC this weekend.
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ChrisKz
ChrisKz
I haven't been yet. I joined a couple FB groups for the park and it looks like a mad house, lol. I wish they were open more than only weekends. There are some upcoming Federal Holidays that I have off that I could use to check it out but unfortunately, they're not on Fridays.
Mattwings
Mattwings
I am sure it is quite a show. It also looks like the areas are a lot of two way traffic , which can be bit scary. If I take my bike, I will just tool around and check things out. I don't have full "knobies" on right now, so many of the more hard core areas are probably best left to others. I know Silver Lake was a blast when it was empty during the week and could be a complete disaster on the big weekends.
Mattwings
Mattwings
I got my bike back together, but the clutch is dragging a bit so didn’t make it out (weather was not great either). This weekend is set for putting the Sea Doos and boat away for the winter. I may try and visit in two weeks. Anyone else make it yet?
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www86aws
yeah, I'm surprised too. Our dealers seem like they just don't care about my $50k purchase. Guess what my money is going to WV!
Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
Think I’m gonna end up there too. At this point the only thing swaying me between granger and Stephens is the scenery. Gonna make it a couple day trip and take my time coming home, go play in the HM for a day before we head back.
Ksm
Going with Granger's I'm thinking! Especially with their new $2k off invoice deal for October. I was on the fence about ordering one now vs. waiting for some to show up on the dealer lots but this new deal got me convinced to reserve one in october.
gamma_j
With all these posts about Granger Ford in Iowa, I'm thinking about switching dealers. Anybody else going with Granger? Waiting to hear back from my local dealer to hear if they can come close to matching.
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gamma_j
Right. I have X-plan through work, and just used my uncle's Z plan for my wife's explorer. X is what I'll have to use for the Bronco.
Mattwings
Mattwings
Retirees only get 2 I think. Fortunately I get one of my father in law’s 👍🏽
Mattwings
Mattwings
Another item to consider. If you have a service issue, having a relationship with the local dealer can help get issues resolved. I know in the past my salesman has walked my vehicle through service to make sure I was taken care of. My Bronco will be new vehicle 7 in the last 6 years.
Gr8Hortoni
Hey guys,

a couple weeks ago I stumbled on info regarding the Trans American Trail and I’ve been obsessing about how great a ride like that could be.

About 4:30 this morning, I was working and had an epiphany..... what about a full blown Michigan Adventure Circuit?? Use the same concept of the T.A.T, but do it all in the state of Michigan.


Starting somewhere along the southwest of Michigan (Allegan Woods?) build a route using legal trails, dirt roads and paved secondary roads as much as possible, looping up the middle or east of the state to the bridge, maybe add an Upper Peninsula section that could be run or bypassed depending on time/destination. I’ve put together a couple of off road poker runs previously, my last one covered 105 miles, with about 70 on trails and dirt, but this is going to be a huge task.
I’m starting to do some research on it, reading through my trail atlases, going to see what I can put together. Any trail/dirt road/2 lane blacktop suggestions would be appreciated.
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Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
@Mattwings, have you ever used the Ramblr app? Very easy way to map and share rides. Probably going to need a more advanced mapping system to put the route together, but it would be a good way to get sections or side adventures mapped out to get added to the overall run. I didn’t think of the fact of the adjacent routes to the cycle trail, that is a good point. I’ve got the paper map of Drummond here (it’s definitely worth it’s own dedicated trip. I love it).
Gr8Hortoni
Gr8Hortoni
I’ve done grayling a couple times, around the base is awesome, and Lucerne is a great trip over by Mio.
Mattwings
Mattwings
I downloaded Gaia and Ramblr. I will mess around with them a bit and see how they work. I may try and do another mostly dirt road drive between my cabin near Oscoda and our family place in Gladwin. It goes through a lot of National Forest and the routes get interrupted by rivers and private land in a few spots. Gladwin has some really fun two tracks in the spring and late fall. They get pretty wet and swampy. Otherwise it’s a lot of sand, but some decent tow tracks up to West Branch. From there you can obviously get almost anywhere in Northern MI on mostly dirt.
www86aws
Hi michiganders! Sterling Hights here
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sapsey
Hi all checking in from Beverly Hills. Saw a black 2 door driving down Beverly Rd the other day and couldn't believe my eyes. I look at it so often online it was like seeing a UFO in person... couldn't stop grinning... still trying to spot it again so I can chase it... wasn't safe to do a turner on the day of sighting... UGH! I have my reservation with Avis Ford it was the closest one to me. So far they have reached out and the sales guy has sent me updates as they come in so it's been good but it's always a day after Bronco6g posts :) so kudos for trying...
All,

A little welcome message to all of you. Welcome to the Michigan bronco group. Maybe the only one? From the get go, the name of this group has been in question, I made it what it is to get the attention of all the mitten bronco lovers. But as we get larger and the discussions become more, I believe it's time to bring the matter to a vote.

Drop some name suggestions below, and we can take a vote on the top ones.
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Bionicman05
What about Michigan GOAT?
www86aws
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The bronco crafters
N3T
N3T
Just curious, is anyone here a little worried about dealer shenanigans when it comes time to order or pick up their Bronco? I’m worried about extras added on, required to use their financing, extra $$ needed at time of order for ‘processing’ etc.

That said, I’m at Royal Oak Ford right now who so far seems legit, accepts X-plan, and promised to not add ADM. I’d like to stay local for servicing but I don’t have any experience with Ford dealers. Does anyone have any advice, good or bad stories about Royal Oak Ford, or think I’m worrying too much? 😜
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@N3T I have the same dealer too. They look ok so far🤞 I have no experience with this dealer. Lets hope someone will reply to you.
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Mattwings
I went and checked our Holly Oaks RV park today. It looks a bit small (expansion is already scheduled) but pretty cool. Lots of steep inclines, good parking, variety of terrain. If I am in town, I would be interested to go to the grand opening September 20. Maybe ride my DR350?
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Philly
Just curious, what color is everyone thinking? I was leaning towards Cactus Gray and it seems to be the popular color on the forum. I was wondering if it would be in Michigan as well.
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Mattwings
Mattwings
I wish there was a Grabber Yellow or Blue. Velocity Blue is one I like but late availability is a no go.
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Philly
Philly
@Mattwings Me too. I also wish they had more nonmetallic options. When I really start to use my Bronco down the road I don't want to worry about added cost of matching metallic paints if I need a serious repair. Grabber Blue would have been perfect.
kplumb09
Cactus gray is the front runner here as well, mainly because the SO loves it too. Also considering the Carbonized and A51......really need to see some of these in person to solidify a choice
McCracken
McCracken
I didn't think paint color would be the hardest decision...I would usually go White, I love White vehicles, they hid dirt well and almost glow, at least Oxford White does...but I am not feeling the white on Bronco, and it bugs me that I can't pinpoint why...
Mattwings
Mattwings
@McCracken I have an Oxford White Explorer and F150 in the driveway right now, just doesn't seem like the G6 Bronco should be white (even though my last 90 Bronco was white too :))
McCracken
McCracken
@Mattwings LOL, we are almost the same, I have a Oxford F-150, and my wife has a White Platinum Metallic Explorer Platinum, lots of platinum in that one...
It also doesn't help, that the first thing that comes to mind when someone says White Bronco, I think of 1994 OJ...




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