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Good morning folks. I've been on vehicle forums for decades but new to the Bronco world. Converting from a 2021 Jeep JLUR Diesel that was fully tuned and built out. I have to say that the Bronco seems to be generations better than the Jeep dynamically. Overall. I'm impressed with it but one complaint that could make this a short stint of ownership.
Issue to discuss:
Recently purchased a 2024 BRaptor (after the Jeep) but also recently owned a 2019 F150 Raptor and was expecting similar dynamics. Not the case at all. My main issue and reason for this post is this vehicle's needless rev hanging in almost all gears under the lightest of throttle input in NORMAL mode. In most gears the engine will wind out to 4k with that "hollow" light throttle / high rpm buzz making the vehicle noisy like an over stressed 4 CYL. I like a prominent exhaust note, this isn't that. Zero boost in these cases due to the light throttle input. In most turbo vehicles, you tend to ride the torque wave at lower RPM's when not really dipping into the throttle. This BRaptor is the exact opposite where I feel like I need an oil change after every drive due to the high revs. Interesting observation I made was during hill climbs (I live in the mountains @ 7k feet) when climbing steepish grades the tranny will be in 8th gear or even 7th but if I engage cruise control, it immediately upshifts to 10th gear and climbs like a goat at lower RPM. Very strange as the shift programming thus appears to be responding to pedal input versus the other modules like TCU or ECU. I don't mean to debate the semantics of ECU's and Pedals here but focus on the vehicle behavior. It obviously has the low end power to pull and if I'm choosing Normal mode, I don't expect or need the slightly faster response by keeping the car on boost all the time. I find very little difference in engine and trans behavior between Normal and Sport besides the downshifting and rev matching. My mileage is 14.5MPG and I'm betting it could improve a bit if the trans was re calibrated.
Question: Is there a programmer or Tune out there for the Trans that will address this? Am I the only one that thinks this is unnecessary and annoying? ((For me)) this really subtracts from the enjoyment of the vehicle. If I want rev hanging and rev matching and really desire to drive like a rally driver, I can switch into Sport but for trips around town it makes the car feel cheap and buzzy. My F150 Raptor did none of this and was more chill in normal mode.
Addressing the presumptions up front:
1. Yes, I have the FP tune installed. I did not notice any difference in trans behavior after the tune but I did it with 200 miles on the clock.
2. No, I'm not mistakenly in Sport or Baja mode.
3. Yes, I've searched and can't find anything specific on this topic but generally I find the search engine on the forums futile. I wish I knew the trick to make the forum search work for me.
4. Yes, I have driven other BRaptors and they seemed similar so I'm not assuming there is a problem, just looking for a trans tune that can make it drive normal in NORMAL mode.
Thanks in advance for opinions and ideas.
Good morning folks. I've been on vehicle forums for decades but new to the Bronco world. Converting from a 2021 Jeep JLUR Diesel that was fully tuned and built out. I have to say that the Bronco seems to be generations better than the Jeep dynamically. Overall. I'm impressed with it but one complaint that could make this a short stint of ownership.
Issue to discuss:
Recently purchased a 2024 BRaptor (after the Jeep) but also recently owned a 2019 F150 Raptor and was expecting similar dynamics. Not the case at all. My main issue and reason for this post is this vehicle's needless rev hanging in almost all gears under the lightest of throttle input in NORMAL mode. In most gears the engine will wind out to 4k with that "hollow" light throttle / high rpm buzz making the vehicle noisy like an over stressed 4 CYL. I like a prominent exhaust note, this isn't that. Zero boost in these cases due to the light throttle input. In most turbo vehicles, you tend to ride the torque wave at lower RPM's when not really dipping into the throttle. This BRaptor is the exact opposite where I feel like I need an oil change after every drive due to the high revs. Interesting observation I made was during hill climbs (I live in the mountains @ 7k feet) when climbing steepish grades the tranny will be in 8th gear or even 7th but if I engage cruise control, it immediately upshifts to 10th gear and climbs like a goat at lower RPM. Very strange as the shift programming thus appears to be responding to pedal input versus the other modules like TCU or ECU. I don't mean to debate the semantics of ECU's and Pedals here but focus on the vehicle behavior. It obviously has the low end power to pull and if I'm choosing Normal mode, I don't expect or need the slightly faster response by keeping the car on boost all the time. I find very little difference in engine and trans behavior between Normal and Sport besides the downshifting and rev matching. My mileage is 14.5MPG and I'm betting it could improve a bit if the trans was re calibrated.
Question: Is there a programmer or Tune out there for the Trans that will address this? Am I the only one that thinks this is unnecessary and annoying? ((For me)) this really subtracts from the enjoyment of the vehicle. If I want rev hanging and rev matching and really desire to drive like a rally driver, I can switch into Sport but for trips around town it makes the car feel cheap and buzzy. My F150 Raptor did none of this and was more chill in normal mode.
Addressing the presumptions up front:
1. Yes, I have the FP tune installed. I did not notice any difference in trans behavior after the tune but I did it with 200 miles on the clock.
2. No, I'm not mistakenly in Sport or Baja mode.
3. Yes, I've searched and can't find anything specific on this topic but generally I find the search engine on the forums futile. I wish I knew the trick to make the forum search work for me.
4. Yes, I have driven other BRaptors and they seemed similar so I'm not assuming there is a problem, just looking for a trans tune that can make it drive normal in NORMAL mode.
Thanks in advance for opinions and ideas.
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