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I think Ford will cut Bronco prices in 25 and that's why you don't see ordering/prices up. Ford backtracked on Mach-E prices and just announced a 25 price cut. It might only be $1-2K but psychologically folks will want deeper price cuts on 23s and 24s on the lot.
You are probably correct cause you have people like me waiting to see which will be the cheaper way to get into a Bronco.
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Damn they added heated steering wheel to badlands and added the fox live valve as an option. I wish I could have gotten ours that way and not had to buy the lux package to get heated steering wheel.
Missed the heated wheel that's the only Lux option I wanted, for Fox you have to add SAS too.
 

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Please forgive my ignorance (I'm new here) but can you tell me if the 2025 Heritages have the Signature LEDs as standard? This order guide is confusing!
It's confusing, the Heritage is based on the Big Bend which came standard with the non-signature lights for '24 ... if they get rid of the options for choosing then it would be the base lights.

I'm really wondering if they just got rid of the base lights all together and the signature designation but also making it the new base??? ... yeah, I don't know, doesn't make sense, if Ford wanted to consolidate headlights then pick one and advertise it plainly.
 

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Please forgive my ignorance (I'm new here) but can you tell me if the 2025 Heritages have the Signature LEDs as standard? This order guide is confusing!
I believe it has the standard LEDs. The heritage uses the big bend’s standard features, which isn’t equipped with signature lighting.
 

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Same here been looking at slightly used as you can get some nice trims with SAS for low 40's below a new BB with just a rear locker. Crazy thing is I was quoted $33k trade in for my 23' Base which is more than I paid for it.

I will wait to see what a Base with SAS is since it looks like you get the Heritage flares too. but when I ordered mine in 21' it was $40k for base with SAS so guessing it will be 45-50k.
Not sure if it was noted in these 18 pages, but it appears the Sas package now includes the everglades/heritage fenders and "high clearance fender flares" At least that's how it appears to me by looking in the order guide and watching the Stroppe video. Also, in said video, at 3:45, looks to be a Stroppe scheme painted Raptor.
I’d say SAS on all other models are regular fenders since it has always said ‘High Clearance Fender Flares’ and the Heritage Exterior detail says ‘Unique Fenders’…
 

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I’d say SAS on all other models are regular fenders since it has always said ‘High Clearance Fender Flares’ and the Heritage Exterior detail says ‘Unique Fenders’…
I think you're right, it's confusing because it says High clearance but then a few lines below says "Unique Wheel Flares – Painted Code Orange" for the Stroppe edition which has the flat fenders.
 

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But also, Ford, what the hell.

Why do these still not come with radar fusion? Why is adaptive cruise STILL the radar-only, over-17mph version you'd get in a 2013 Taurus?

We know it's capable of full-range. It's the same camera and radar as any other model, including the Ranger. The Bronco is literally the only Ford you can buy in America that doesn't have stop-and-go as a factory option. It was standard equipment on the 2020 Fusion. All of the hardware is there, all of the software is there, it's considered a standard feature for most vehicles now, why are you intentionally disabling it?

It frustrates me that this is a very obvious question that nobody will ever provide an official answer on
I for one don't want any kind of adaptive cruise control. I tired it on various rental cars and hate it. It uses the brakes when coming up on someone, and when you change lanes goes wide open throttle. The standard cruise on the Bronco with tap up & down works great If traffic conditions are such to require constant adjustments I prefer to drive manually, which will get better MPG.
I personally hate adaptive cruise and all those bells and whistles.
My preference is that “I drive the vehicle”.
I have no problem immediately responding to the unexpected.
My 2018 CR-V has tried to kill me twice. My 2020 Elantra GT (i30) N-Line sports hatch is a driver’s dream without any of the intruding functions.
I’m glad the Bronco’s system is lite.
I agree 100%. I tried adaptive cruise on various rental cars and hate it. It uses the brakes when coming up on someone, and if you switch lanes to pass goes wide open throttle. Maybe some are better but I don't want it. The Bronco tap up & down switches works very well, and if traffic conditions require constant adjustments I prefer to drive manually. I'm not against technology if it works well, but I'll pass on any of the self drive features.
 

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Re: the three or four people who quoted me to say they don't like adaptive cruise

That's great, don't use it. It's completely optional and I get why you may not like it. But those of us will DO like it, would probably prefer if the Bronco came with the same stop-and-go that virtually every other car offers in 2025, especially given the price and that it's restricted to the highest equipment package.

I honestly cannot think of any other vehicle from any manufacturer that still offers radar-only adaptive cruise.
 

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I like adaptive cruise. Lots of days I just want to relax and get from A to B. I am fully capable of driving all by myself but I’m also not stubborn enough to ignore convenience features that make life easier as I don’t struggle with new technology. Technology is ever improving and changing and life is much easier if you adapt with an open mind rather than create barriers that don’t serve any purpose other than to stroke your ego that you can do things yourself and don’t need assistance. Sounds like the people back in the day that claimed power windows were overly complex and unnecessary. Sure anyone can manually crank windows but why lean forward to crank several times when you simply can press a button? Embrace technology that makes your day to day life easier don’t reject it.
It's not about not having an open mind or being anti-technology. Adaptive cruise uses a lot more braking and acceleration than I prefer. If traffic conditions are bad enough to require constant adjustment I prefer to stay alert and be in control. Its great you like it, some of us don't and if you don't understand that who is it with a closed mind? Just saying.
 

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Re: the three or four people who quoted me to say they don't like adaptive cruise

That's great, don't use it. It's completely optional and I get why you may not like it. But those of us will DO like it, would probably prefer if the Bronco came with the same stop-and-go that virtually every other car offers in 2025, especially given the price and that it's restricted to the highest equipment package.

I honestly cannot think of any other vehicle from any manufacturer that still offers radar-only adaptive cruise.
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Where does it say Aux Switches will not be available on the Base? I searched the entire PDF for Auxiliary didn't find anywhere is said they will not be available on the Base or any other model. I'm not saying you are wrong, but this document doesn't say one way or the other.
 

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Where does it say Aux Switches will not be available on the Base? I searched the entire PDF for Auxiliary didn't find anywhere is said they will not be available on the Base or any other model. I'm not saying you are wrong, but this document doesn't say one way or the other.
That's the problem, look in the options, aux switches aren't listed. Looks like only the BD package and then the BL, Stroppe, HE and Raptor will have them available. Now with late availability it could change, seems a strange omission since it appeared to be a popular option whether you used them or not.
 

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Where does it say Aux Switches will not be available on the Base? I searched the entire PDF for Auxiliary didn't find anywhere is said they will not be available on the Base or any other model. I'm not saying you are wrong, but this document doesn't say one way or the other.
Here's what it says:
"Storage — Center Floor Console Armrest, Glove Box, Media Bin, Overhead Console with Sunglasses Storage1"
then #1 is:
"1 Auxiliary Switches, where available, replace the sunglass storage."

This alone would tell me you could still get them but they're not listed anywhere in the equipment section, the "where available" is confusing but it looks to no longer be an option which is stupid! I have them today and like them a lot would order them again. Ford should raise the price a little rather than dumping them how much could some pre-wire cost???
 

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It's not about not having an open mind or being anti-technology. Adaptive cruise uses a lot more braking and acceleration than I prefer. If traffic conditions are bad enough to require constant adjustment I prefer to stay alert and be in control. Its great you like it, some of us don't and if you don't understand that who is it with a closed mind? Just saying.
I used to think the same thing, until I bought a new Toyota with their "Safety Sense 3.0".
https://www.toyota.com/safety-sense/
Then again, I never thought I'd buy a Toyota as a "fun" car, but here we are.

The Toyota system in my car does NOT use a lot more braking or acceleration, it is more gradual than other systems that I've tried. It does lane centering very well. It requires just a hand on the wheel. It just works.

I rarely use it, and I wouldn't use it in a lot of situations (particularly with a manual transmission), but when I do I'm consistently impressed with it.

No problem if it's not your thing, just know that these systems do seem to be getting better. I also know that some systems just aren't necessary--automatic high beams come to mind, obviously. I never understood why people like to blind oncoming traffic. Now *that* is a system I will NEVER use, and I disable it on any vehicle I drive.


Anyway here is some information that duplicates my experience with the Toyota system.

I Drove My Toyota Sequoia Across the USA (Doug DeMuro)

See discussion of Driver Assist technology around 3:20 of the video.

“Driver assist is basically the car’s ability to slow down and speed up automatically based on the car in front of you and its self steering capabilities. The Sequoia has what I think most people would classify as an okay system. However, for my particular needs it is a fantastic system, in the sense that I don’t need the system to change lanes for me, I don’t really care about that. I’ve never really understood why people care about that, I can change lanes on my own. … The two things the Sequoia does really, really well: Number one, it follows a lane and all you need to do is have your hand resting on the steering wheel. It has what’s called a capacitive touch steering wheel, which means that you don’t have to jiggle the steering wheel every 30 seconds to let it know that you’re paying attention. This is, to me, the biggest drawback with Tesla. … All you have to do is put your hand on the wheel and you can leave it there permanently, and as long as the car can sense that your skin is touching the steering wheel, you’re good. It doesn’t require a jiggle, it doesn’t require you to confirm that you’re paying attention, so you can sit there like this for a looooooong time, you can sit there like this for Oklahoma if you want to, and just sort of have your hand just on a corner of the wheel, it senses you’re there and you and Sequoia do your own thing. It also does a really good job of keeping the lane, especially on these rural interstates, they don’t have tight turns…”

“The other big thing, number two big thing, that the Sequoia system does well is stops and starts are really smooth. This was the biggest problem I had with my Land Rover Defender, I had a new Land Rover Defender and when a car would like gradually slow down in front of you the Defender would like get right up on its bumper and then slam on the brakes and it just, it clearly hadn’t been calibrated all that well. They had the feature, they could advertise that they had the feature, but it was not good. And in the Toyota it’s good. In fact, it’s smoother than it is in my brand new Mercedes station wagon, which is my other daily driver car. And so I find that to be kind of interesting, like the Toyota has actually a better capacitive touch wheel it has a better speed up, slow down thing, um, for driver assist braking and accelerating. So, with that in mind, that was a really great feature, because 3300 miles across the country, as you can imagine, setting cruise control and just kind of letting the car do its thing is really good. … you can kind of stretch out a little in the foot well and have the car kind of do its thing over long, long rural stretches.”

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