Does a muffler delete like FlowMaster Outlaw make it illegal in national forest

[George Ellis]

I am assuming that removing the muffler with a muffler delete kit like the FlowMaster Outlaw axle-back might make the FS stop you from using their trails. Anyone have experience with that?

Why are dBs not reported? Georgia almost passed a law to allow up to 95 dB for enthusiasts vehicles. As of now, it is only on officer discretion (which would never hold up in court with a really strong challenge.) Has anyone found a list of dB outputs by muffler?

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[swooshdave]

I am assuming that removing the muffler with a muffler delete kit like the FlowMaster Outlaw axle-back might make the FS stop you from using their trails. Anyone have experience with that?

Why are dBs not reported? Georgia almost passed a law to allow up to 95 dB for enthusiasts vehicles. As of now, it is only on officer discretion (which would never hold up in court with a really strong challenge.) Has anyone found a list of dB outputs by muffler?

Why would the FS care? Do you mean from a spark arrestor standpoint?

 

[cr117]

Why would the FS care? Do you mean from a spark arrestor standpoint?

Because loud engines can be annoying. The Oregon dunes has a max of 93 db rating.

 

[mcinfantry]

Why would the FS care? Do you mean from a spark arrestor standpoint?

Iirc turbos are spark arrestors

 

[KABQ]

Maybe don't just consider it from a legal standpoint, but also from the perspective of other people using the NF. They probably didn't go to the forest to listen you drive around all day.

 

[RHeinz]

I don’t know what your intent is and I certainly respect other peoples differences, but if I met someone on a back country trail without a muffler, I would probably think to myself, “What an idiot (or worse…)”. Or perhaps assumed you ripped off your muffler depending on the terrain…. Sorry, nothing personal….

I want my Bronco as quiet as possible. This has enabled me to “sneak up on” wild burros, deep in the Big Bend back country.

Long ago (in my younger years), I had my 350 Chevy powered CJ3A way down on South Padre Island, running down unoccupied stretches of beach at high speed with open headers. Stopped and chatted with a Park Ranger who said nothing about the open headers. It was an exhilarating experience that I remember to this day.

So, been there done that…. But that was back in the mid-70’s. Today, unfortunately, as we overrun public lands with our off road vehicles and piss more of the public off, we are going to get legislated against and areas will be closed to all vehicles.

Tread Lightly and Quietly….

 

[PWillette]

I am assuming that removing the muffler with a muffler delete kit like the FlowMaster Outlaw axle-back might make the FS stop you from using their trails. Anyone have experience with that?

Why are dBs not reported? Georgia almost passed a law to allow up to 95 dB for enthusiasts vehicles. As of now, it is only on officer discretion (which would never hold up in court with a really strong challenge.) Has anyone found a list of dB outputs by muffler?

Haven't seen an official dB list but numerous vendors have videos showing dB readings of their products from both inside and outside the truck.

 

[Oldhippie]

Well technically changing the exhaust from oem federal spec is illegal…in Calif mufflers must have epa stamps to be legal…that said it is up to to whatever authority that ya are dealing with…as with most “modifications” ya pay your money and take your chances…used to love the straight pipes but as I get older loud exhaust is becoming annoying…

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