I need some offset - how much?

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

On my 2023 badlands w/Squatch my setup is:

Fabtech 3" Coil over lift with resi
37" Mickey Thompson Bajas
OEM Bronco wheels

The tires clear everything except the upper control arm at full hard turn. I believe the OEM wheels are a "zero" offset, how much + offset do I need to looking for?

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[Lcubed]

Standard Sasquatch wheel offset is 30mm

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/sasquatch-package-wheel-offset.31921/post-1071835

 

[rtaylor]

On my 2023 badlands w/Squatch my setup is:

Fabtech 3" Coil over lift with resi
37" Mickey Thompson Bajas
OEM Bronco wheels

The tires clear everything except the upper control arm at full hard turn. I believe the OEM wheels are a "zero" offset, how much + offset do I need to looking for?

0.75" or 20mm wheel spacers (e.g. BORA) with OEM sasquatch wheels for clearance with min poke. Most aftermarket wheels are only available at +0, so more poke and clearance issues.

 

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

0.75" or 20mm wheel spacers (e.g. BORA) with OEM sasquatch wheels for clearance with min poke. Most aftermarket wheels are only available at +0, so more poke and clearance issues.

I was considering some Black Rhino wheels with a -18mm offset...would this work?

 

[rtaylor]

I was considering some Black Rhino wheels with a -18mm offset...would this work?

Not ideal for offroad (almost 2" of poke with additional fender clearance issues when turning). Fox/BDS/Zone recommends +6 to +12 with their lift/UCA (same as 0.75" spacer with the OEM +30 wheels). +0 wheels work well with frame/fender modification(JKS kit).

 

[Freedom5]

Not ideal for offroad (almost 2" of poke with additional fender clearance issues when turning). Fox/BDS/Zone recommends +6 to +12 with their lift/UCA (same as 0.75" spacer with the OEM +30 wheels). +0 wheels work well with frame/fender modification(JKS kit).

Wont ggive you all that poke in front because you're lifting it. IFS will suck in the tires a bit.

 

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

Not ideal for offroad (almost 2" of poke with additional fender clearance issues when turning). Fox/BDS/Zone recommends +6 to +12 with their lift/UCA (same as 0.75" spacer with the OEM +30 wheels). +0 wheels work well with frame/fender modification(JKS kit).

What Iam seeing with an offset calculator is I would gain 6mm from the strut and 18 mm in pike.

That's less than 1 inch of "poke" which would be fine if that's correct.

 

[rtaylor]

What Iam seeing with an offset calculator is I would gain 6mm from the strut and 18 mm in pike.

That's less than 1 inch of "poke" which would be fine if that's correct.

-18 8.5" is 48mm difference from OEM. IFS angles are a smaller factor.

JKS kit recommends 4.5-5.5" backspace for 37x12.50, which is -6 to +19 for 8.5" wheel. I would stay in that range if you want to be able to turn lock-to-lock with wheel tucked (+6 to +12 8.5" if not using JKS).

This is with +0 8.5" wheel and 37's (no clearance). Wheel tucked and turned (fender liner removed). The JKS kit eliminates this inner fender plastic part to improve clearance enough for +0 wheels. -18 will be worse (no easy fix).

 

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

I onlybrub in one spot turn to turn. Iam clearing the crash bar and fender liners on the front. The top edge of the tire rubs the upper control arm on full turn. The rear tires will have to be flexed and stuffed to see what's rubbing.

Front,.... that rub mark is actually the adhesive from the FabTech sticker.

The rear....

 

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

0.75" or 20mm wheel spacers (e.g. BORA) with OEM sasquatch wheels for clearance with min poke. Most aftermarket wheels are only available at +0, so more poke and clearance issues.

So with the spacers I would be ok - or sort ok?

 

[Strizzo]

Its hard to say you'll need a new wheel with X amount of offset because offset is measured from the centerline of the wheel to the mounting surface. So, if you buy a wheel with less offset you might think you'll be ok, but if you buy like a 10.5" wheel you could have worse fitment.

Stock wheels are 17x8.5 and +30 offset so your inner wheel bead surface is 137.95mm from the mounting surface. If you went to a zero offset and a 10" wide wheel that would put your inner bead at 127mm from the mounting surface, which would clear up your rubbing on the suspension but could cause interference with crash bars or fenders since they would poke out more than stock by 19.05mm, or almost 2"

 

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

Its hard to say you'll need a new wheel with X amount of offset because offset is measured from the centerline of the wheel to the mounting surface. So, if you buy a wheel with less offset you might think you'll be ok, but if you buy like a 10.5" wheel you could have worse fitment.

Stock wheels are 17x8.5 and +30 offset so your inner wheel bead surface is 137.95mm from the mounting surface. If you went to a zero offset and a 10" wide wheel that would put your inner bead at 127mm from the mounting surface, which would clear up your rubbing on the suspension but could cause interference with crash bars or fenders since they would poke out more than stock by 19.05mm, or almost 2"

You recommend almost what Fabtech recommend when I called them today. They ran a 17x9 wheel with a zero offset on the Bronco they have.

The crash bar slots and fenders are easy fixes.

I appreciate all the replies...wheels are not my wheel house....no pun intended!

 

[rtaylor]

So with the spacers I would be ok - or sort ok?

You have to trim off part of the crash bar mounts in front and rear of the front tire on each side with angle grinder (4 mounts).
I removed the spring from coilover and cycled articulation and turning range to see what wheel offset worked best (KM3 37x12.50 and BDS UCA). The 0.75" BORA spacer on sasquatch wheels was the sweet spot (zero rub for me). Others report similar results with 0.75".
The JKS kit provides additional clearance for fender and frame to support a wider offset range and tires on the larger side. If you are willing to cut frame, this is the guaranteed option.

 

[Az_Squatch_Bronco]

You have to trim off part of the crash bar mounts in front and rear of the front tire on each side with angle grinder (4 mounts).
I removed the spring from coilover and cycled articulation and turning range to see what wheel offset worked best (KM3 37x12.50 and BDS UCA). The 0.75" BORA spacer on sasquatch wheels was the sweet spot (zero rub for me). Others report similar results with 0.75".
The JKS kit provides additional clearance for fender and frame to support a wider offset range and tires on the larger side. If you are willing to cut frame, this is the guaranteed option.

I ordered some zero offset wheels, hopefully I won't have to trim much.

 

[Jdyount]

A couple of things:

First, it looks like you took your front fender liners out, just unbolt those plastic supports, you don't need them if you're not running the factory fender liners. I have DV8 steel liners on mine.

Second, I run 1" spacers with my 37s and I liked the small amount of poke I had. I deleted my flares so now I have a ton of poke but it's all good because I kept catching my flares off-roading. One was half ripped off hanging, another two were all beat up.

You're probably going to still rub a bit at full stuff and that's ok, it happens.

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