Tuning Options?

[Ducati1098]

Appreciate the input. I buy and hold my trucks and once my extended warranty runs out, whatever acceptable addons not already upgraded, I plan to add. As I do with all my other trucks, goal will be entire kit of cold air intake, intercooler, exhaust, tune, and am hoping by then Whipple (or equivalent) has a bigger supercharger to at least consider. Not looking to race, but am a student of getting max horses/torque out, but only to an economically efficient extent. Once I’m there, I’m good.

If you plan on going all out, any/all bolt ons will certainly help in the long run.
CR Performance already makes some larger turbos.
I’m running their stage 3 set in my Wildtrak, still working through some tune issues, but it makes an absolute ton of power. It’s extremely fun to drive.

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[RIDE]

Stage 3 is the goal and believe me, I’m counting the days. Never once bought extended warranty on anything. Ever. But to get MSRP, dealer held my Golden Ticket order hostage. Still wasn’t gonna play the game till I witnessed Lite Brite pickup theirs up right in front of me putting $30,k ADM without blinking. Insane time to buy a car

 

[Tye]

Or you can bypass all the boltons and just swap a 7.3 megazilla in with stage 2 head and 10r80 tranny and put down reliable 700 whp easy. And this is not a far fetched idea, its being done now on a bronco raptor by a shop that has successfully completed many of these swaps into Raptors.

 

[Ducati1098]

Or you can bypass all the boltons and just swap a 7.3 megazilla in with stage 2 head and 10r80 tranny and put down reliable 700 whp easy. And this is not a far fetched idea, its being done now on a bronco raptor by a shop that has successfully completed many of these swaps into Raptors.

Yeah and probably only costs ~$20k more lol

2.7/3.0 can easily make a reliable 500whp which is a whole lot for a small Bronco, not to mention much cheaper and easier.

 

[swamp2]

Seems that intake, intercooler, hot and cold pipes and down pipes, perhaps supported by a custom tune should be good for noticeable power. The problem is that each of these in isolation don't do much.

Injens hot and cold pipes system claims +16 HP on the 2.7. I thought I saw a similar system claiming almost +30 hp.

Doesn't seem far fetched that all of this together might get you 40 hp, but again the tune might be most of the gains.

Other key thing is hp/dollar. Great on tunes, sucks on most hardware (less turbos).

Largely speculation here. I've not done any of this myself.

 

[RIDE]

Or you can bypass all the boltons and just swap a 7.3 megazilla in with stage 2 head and 10r80 tranny and put down reliable 700 whp easy. And this is not a far fetched idea, its being done now on a bronco raptor by a shop that has successfully completed many of these swaps into Raptors.

IF only…. For its simplicity I’d look at a naturally aspirated V8 sooo fast wouldn’t be funny. Preference would be the 5.0 to help the weight differential but hell yeah Id take the out-of-the-box ponies of the 7.3 were it and easy swap.

Yeah and probably only costs ~$20k more lol

2.7/3.0 can easily make a reliable 500whp which is a whole lot for a small Bronco, not to mention much cheaper and easier.

Yeah cost justification’s always been a thing with me. But won’t deny the coolness factor would offset some of that. In as cool of numbers as you can pull out of yours @Ducati1098, I find longevity and reliability dominate my motives these days, sadly.

 

[RIDE]

Or you can bypass all the boltons and just swap a 7.3 megazilla in with stage 2 head and 10r80 tranny and put down reliable 700 whp easy. And this is not a far fetched idea, its being done now on a bronco raptor by a shop that has successfully completed many of these swaps into Raptors.

Sooo…. Where might a guy find said shop that’s dropping 7.3’s in a Braptor? Asking for a friend of course.

 

[Tye]

Sooo…. Where might a guy find said shop that’s dropping 7.3’s in a Braptor? Asking for a friend of course.

juicy motorsports
https://www.juicymotorsports.com/godzilla

If you decide to chat with Jeff there, tell him
Tye with the Bronco Raptor referred you.

 

[RIDE]

juicy motorsports
https://www.juicymotorsports.com/godzilla

If you decide to chat with Jeff there, tell him
Tye with the Bronco Raptor referred you.

Thnks. Googled it last night, Juicy popped up and saw their Gen2 SEMA vid. The 7.3s a heavy engine but upside potential (particularly torque) is undeniable.
@Tye, you pulling the trigger on this? And if so what’s ballpark on it?

 

[Tye]

Thnks. Googled it last night, Juicy popped up and saw their Gen2 SEMA vid. The 7.3s a heavy engine but upside potential (particularly torque) is undeniable.
@Tye, you pulling the trigger on this? And if so what’s ballpark on it?

The motor is 135 lbs heavier than the 3.0L. With a stage 2 head it's an easy high 700 rear wheel hp. If you throw a SC on top of that, 1200rwhp . Their raptor on 40s made a 9.x quarter mile pass lol. So depends how crazy you want to get. High 700s is good enough for me. Nice thing is the Ford Performance warranty on crate motor and transmission is 24 months. Juicy also offers a warranty.

 

[RIDE]

Seems that intake, intercooler, hot and cold pipes and down pipes, perhaps supported by a custom tune should be good for noticeable power. The problem is that each of these in isolation don't do much.

Injens hot and cold pipes system claims +16 HP on the 2.7. I thought I saw a similar system claiming almost +30 hp.

Doesn't seem far fetched that all of this together might get you 40 hp, but again the tune might be most of the gains.

Other key thing is hp/dollar. Great on tunes, sucks on most hardware (less turbos).

Largely speculation here. I've not done any of this myself.

Different schools of thought out there but me personally, dad got me into a Gale Banks clinic during college and I now can’t unsee his approach. You may be right that if you just want cheap horses solely, a tune might give you the best ROI, but at what cost to the engine, drivetrain? Any one improvement by itself creates (typically) a bottleneck somewhere (heat=>wear) and/or an inefficiency. Addressing, balancing all factors simultaneously or not at all is the correct path IMO, which it seems @Ducati1098 has done successfully on his 2.7.

 

[RIDE]

The motor is 135 lbs heavier than the 3.0L. With a stage 2 head it's an easy high 700 rear wheel hp. If you throw a SC on top of that, 1200rwhp . Their raptor on 40s made a 9.x quarter mile pass lol. So depends how crazy you want to get. High 700s is good enough for me. Nice thing is the Ford Performance warranty on crate motor and transmission is 24 months. Juicy also offers a warranty.

Never even saw the 7.3 as possible for Bronco assuming it way too big, but yet here I am. As I recall, Ford brought it out to replace the 6.8 V10, but TIL it measures smaller than the 5.0 (but 150# heavier with its cast block). With how nimble the Braptor is off road at speed I’m hesitant to add to its center of mass, but keeping perspective, plenty guys run bigger tires @35#/ea more than stock. I’d consider a 7.3 swap.

You didn’t answer my question though…

 

[Tye]

Never even saw the 7.3 as possible for Bronco assuming it way too big, but yet here I am. As I recall, Ford brought it out to replace the 6.8 V10, but TIL it measures smaller than the 5.0 (but 150# heavier with its cast block). With how nimble the Braptor is off road at speed I’m hesitant to add to its center of mass, but keeping perspective, plenty guys run bigger tires @35#/ea more than stock. I’d consider a 7.3 swap.

You didn’t answer my question though…

Stay Tuned

 

[JetG]

My understanding is you can buy a new ECU and get it Tuned. But the stock ECU you replaced cant be swapped back in for dealership visits for warranty work. If ford didn't have cam phaser issues I wouldn't care much about the warranty but they do and have for years.

 

[Ducati1098]

My understanding is you can buy a new ECU and get it Tuned. But the stock ECU you replaced cant be swapped back in for dealership visits for warranty work. If ford didn't have cam phaser issues I wouldn't care much about the warranty but they do and have for years.

The stock PCM can be swapped back in, as long as you have the right equipment to do it.

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