Bronco hardtop (is it fixed?)

[ZipZit]

Glue overspray. Hmmm.. I never, ever want the carpet to hang down at the edges. Never, ever. So I understand the issue.

Good news, no carpet hang down. Bad news is the popping sound. That is absolutely related to the glue overspray.

If you want to get rid of the popping sound, clean off the glue overspray.

How do I know that? Been there, done that. No details shared, but I used to be an automotive engineer and root cause troubleshooter, nearly 30 years. I once spent three months at an assembly plant working on a ticking noise problem on a popular vehicle.

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[Bt_ostate]

Mines more than the popping, glue slopped around, bubbles, scratches and scuffs all over.

Ford is gonna have to do something for all of us that got stuck with these awful hard tops. Webasto majorly failed them on every level.

 

[Last Ride Bronco]

Were the edges rolled? Especially the back quarters of the clamshell.

 

[vzqhsg]

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Agree, shouldn’t have to fix it on a new vehicle. Although I would rather deal with these little problems and have it here now vs waiting longer.

Not me...for the money I want the truck to be right. IMO that's the problem, Ford knows folks will accept mediocrity, so we get a crap truck. Most of you are probably not old enough to remember the 70 cars and bad quality.

 

[RoLyMa27]

Rodney, do you have the sound deadening headliner as well? How does yours look? Better than OP's? Thanks.

Yes, nice and flat, edges look good! No excess glue!

 

[Herbie]

Yes, nice and flat, edges look good! No excess glue!

Thank you sir.

 

[Herbie]

Glue overspray. Hmmm.. I never, ever want the carpet to hang down at the edges. Never, ever. So I understand the issue.

Good news, no carpet hang down. Bad news is the popping sound. That is absolutely related to the glue overspray.

If you want to get rid of the popping sound, clean off the glue overspray.

How do I know that? Been there, done that. No details shared, but I used to be an automotive engineer and root cause troubleshooter, nearly 30 years. I once spent three months at an assembly plant working on a ticking noise problem on a popular vehicle.

Having trouble detecting if you are being serious right now.

 

[ZipZit]

Having trouble detecting if you are being serious right now.

Nope, absolutely serious. There are a whole lot of materials, which when "barely" touching painted surfaces generate a terribly loud "tick" noise.

• Tail lamps (acrylic)
• Materials with contact cement / glue on surface

What's quite bizarre is the volume and sound of the noise inside the passenger compartment is quite loud. Its not obvious what is causing the sound. Ever heard of an A-B-A test? Yup, find vehicle with loud noise, remove suspected part, test it again on the four poster shaker, listen for noise, replace the part. Listen again. Figure out a ROBUST fix so the issue never ever re-occurs. The fix might involve using felt tape, or spacers so the part never touches painted surface.

Er, what would it take to convince you I'm serious?

 

[RoLyMa27]

That's probably because it doesn't have the second panel that the noise seems to come from.

Which begs the question, are we seeing equal amounts of problems 2dr vs. 4dr?

 

[Desert_6G]

My MIC 2.0 still had flaws and needs to be replaced under warranty. It pops and creeks above the driver just like the video and others reported. Like something is binding or the latches are over tightened. Mine didn't have the sound deadening liners but the quality is literally shit. They could have pre cut it better or cover more area and not made it out of cheap $.59/ sq foot home depot fabric.

 

[Cornbred]

I do a nation wide search on autotrader for Broncos (four door) once a week. Do it just to see if hardtops start showing up in greater numbers, did a search last night and still nothing but soft tops I’d say 98%...just looking for actual posted pics, not the ford generated pic.

 

[Ksjrb03]

Took delivery of our First Edition late November, here is what our hardtop looks and sounds like… anyone experiencing the same thing?

Yes my FE MIC 2.0 has all those issues and more. I described it as garbage the hour I took delivery, and that was on appearance alone. The rattling didn’t start until 1,000 miles. My top has all the known issues, snakeskin, delam, glue overspray, carpet fuzz raining down, headliner cut by a kindergartner, gaskets that were cut by a kindergartner, and more I’m probably forgetting. Oh ya huge gaps in the gaskets that cause crazy wind noise.

I can’t help you on all that. But the good news is the rattling can be easily fixed. It’s the guide pins. There are many ways you can dampen them, the easiest and what i do is wrap them in electrical tape. My first fix when diagnosing the problem was literally some plastic wrapper from the garbage. Fixed it perfect.

One day Ford/webasto will get this right. And that day I will make a warranty claim and get a new top. No use in doing it now. The top is awesome. Looks awesome (from 5 feet). Functions awesome. I’m completely topless in less than 5 mins. Not “topless” with the wrinkled mess blocking rear view like the ugly soft top.

 

[Project Offroad]

Yes my FE MIC 2.0 has all those issues and more. I described it as garbage the hour I took delivery, and that was on appearance alone. The rattling didn’t start until 1,000 miles. My top has all the known issues, snakeskin, delam, glue overspray, carpet fuzz raining down, headliner cut by a kindergartner, gaskets that were cut by a kindergartner, and more I’m probably forgetting. Oh ya huge gaps in the gaskets that cause crazy wind noise.

I can’t help you on all that. But the good news is the rattling can be easily fixed. It’s the guide pins. There are many ways you can dampen them, the easiest and what i do is wrap them in electrical tape. My first fix when diagnosing the problem was literally some plastic wrapper from the garbage. Fixed it perfect.

One day Ford/webasto will get this right. And that day I will make a warranty claim and get a new top. No use in doing it now. The top is awesome. Looks awesome (from 5 feet). Functions awesome. I’m completely topless in less than 5 mins. Not “topless” with the wrinkled mess blocking rear view like the ugly soft top.

Exactly the same issues on mine.. I’ll give that Electrical tape a try. Thx man

 

[Project Offroad]

I do a nation wide search on autotrader for Broncos (four door) once a week. Do it just to see if hardtops start showing up in greater numbers, did a search last night and still nothing but soft tops I’d say 98%...just looking for actual posted pics, not the ford generated pic.

Wow that’s interesting. I’m guessing they just shipped the first editions with the problem hardtop to get them out in 21. Would look even worse if some “First Editions” were 22s.

 

[Gotdesl]

Yeah, two doors don't escape the popping. My driver's side is fine, but the passenger side is terrible. The colder it is, the worse the popping is. Ford/Webasto flat out failed on MIC 1.0 and 2.0; I'm hoping that 3.0 is the answer (and that there is a 3.0).

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