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Backstory:
I’m a late Badlands reservation (7/23/21 ) and ended up transfering it after some encountering dealer shenanigans before even placing my order. Then, prior to the switch, the whole dealer allocation bomb dropped apparently shifting priority to bigger dealers with less of a emphasis on reservation and the dates thereof. Honestly, I couldn’t keep up with the reservation saga on here but my main takeaway: big dealers offer the best chance of receiving a bronco within the next century.
Since my res was so late I figured I may as well wait for a MY22. Since I was still a Ford free-agent, I decided to search for a dealer worthy of my $$$ to see where I should transfer my reservation. The first alternative—I really liked the salesman—much less slimy than my initial dealer‘s salesperson so I told him I was looking to switch my reservation to his establishment. He said he’d be happy to take my reservation and he asked his sales manager the best way to transfer it. The manager said that I could simply order it from them without a reservation. So he had us spec out my bronco and said that when the MY22 order banks open in mid-October to call to confirm and he would submit it. I asked if I had to put a deposIt down and he replied no, much to my surprise as every other I spoke with dealer demanded a $500 deposit one claiming it was non-refundable.
I then got a call from another dealer (Dealer#2) offering a 24hr test drive of the bronco that I had signed up for a little over a month prior. After an exhilarating 24hrs I returned the Wildtrak demo and he proceeded to put his sales pitch on and in the midst of his schpiel a little light bulb illuminated over my head. I thought to myself, since the other dealer said they didn’t need any deposit why even transfer my reservation there? Why not hedge my bet by having 2 bronco orders?
The experiment.
I’ll make identical badlands build save for one being eruption green and one area 51 since I couldn’t decide between the two. Whichever one is scheduled first I’ll keep and the second I’ll let the dealer feast on my leftovers by marking them up. I was late n in the game regardless, but I’ll transfer my reservation to dealer #2 who is the bigger than dealer #1 to offer another independent variable. This is beginning to sound like real 3rd grade science… BRONCO SCIENCE
I called ford and transferred my reservation to this dealer, which refunded my $100 deposit and put down $500 for the order and made a mental note to call the other dealer to place my deposit free order to increase my odds in the bronco lottery.
When the order banks opened I converted that 7/23/21 to order on 11/7/21 from what I was told was the 2nd largest dealer in central FL (the dealer that lent me the bronco for 24hrs). I thought about ordering from a dealer in Tampa who apparently was the top ford dealer in the country recently but I took some forumembers advice that the big dealers probably have a ton more orders so I went big but, not too big in my mind, but in all honesty, who the hell knows at this point? Especially given the fact that this logic defies the results.
Weeks go by and I forgot to call dealer one for my free order! SHIT!
But I wasn’t super worried as a super late 7/23/21 time stamp at a larger, but not “too large” dealer would surely end up being scheduled before a non-reserved, super late bronco order.
Super.
So on 11/4/21 I sent my spec sheet and called to confirm my order and I got the ford email and a Dora sheet.
Bronco Science
Scenario A:
Reservation Date: 7/23/21
Build Eruption Green badlands Sas
Dealer: Largest in city
Order date: 11/7/21
Scenario B:
Reservation Date: N/A (no reservation made)
Build: Area 51 Badlands Sas
Dealer: Not the Largest or the smallest in the city
Order date: 10/18/21
Again, both scenarios have identical trim/options
Fast forward to today 12/16/21 and much to my surprise… Scenario B is the winner and is scheduled for production 2/21/22.
Meanwhile the earlier timestamp reservation converted to order in Scenario A remains in order confirmation roulette.
Closing Statement:
I hope this helps illustrate the extent of the speculative nature of the of ordering a Bronco. Third grade science has proven that the order algorithm is complex beyond our wildest imaginations.
**** Updated INFO****
After reviewing my order info the dates were slightly off Scenario A with the reservation convert date was 11/7/21 and Scenario two order date was 10/18/21. I was initially going off my shoddy memory.
As the title suggests my initial findings thinking that the non-reservation order beating my late reservation turned out inaccurate. I got a text from my reservation dealer that the order was also scheduled for 2/21/22. Now I’m stuck with 2 vins scheduled for the same week
Currently, neither order online is showing up in production, I didn’t get an email for each but again, have two vin#s and confirmed with ford the dealer info is accurate on both orders. If the system updates I’ll photographic evidence of my sibling broncos.
I suppose at this point the horse race is a tie?
I’m a late Badlands reservation (7/23/21 ) and ended up transfering it after some encountering dealer shenanigans before even placing my order. Then, prior to the switch, the whole dealer allocation bomb dropped apparently shifting priority to bigger dealers with less of a emphasis on reservation and the dates thereof. Honestly, I couldn’t keep up with the reservation saga on here but my main takeaway: big dealers offer the best chance of receiving a bronco within the next century.
Since my res was so late I figured I may as well wait for a MY22. Since I was still a Ford free-agent, I decided to search for a dealer worthy of my $$$ to see where I should transfer my reservation. The first alternative—I really liked the salesman—much less slimy than my initial dealer‘s salesperson so I told him I was looking to switch my reservation to his establishment. He said he’d be happy to take my reservation and he asked his sales manager the best way to transfer it. The manager said that I could simply order it from them without a reservation. So he had us spec out my bronco and said that when the MY22 order banks open in mid-October to call to confirm and he would submit it. I asked if I had to put a deposIt down and he replied no, much to my surprise as every other I spoke with dealer demanded a $500 deposit one claiming it was non-refundable.
I then got a call from another dealer (Dealer#2) offering a 24hr test drive of the bronco that I had signed up for a little over a month prior. After an exhilarating 24hrs I returned the Wildtrak demo and he proceeded to put his sales pitch on and in the midst of his schpiel a little light bulb illuminated over my head. I thought to myself, since the other dealer said they didn’t need any deposit why even transfer my reservation there? Why not hedge my bet by having 2 bronco orders?
The experiment.
I’ll make identical badlands build save for one being eruption green and one area 51 since I couldn’t decide between the two. Whichever one is scheduled first I’ll keep and the second I’ll let the dealer feast on my leftovers by marking them up. I was late n in the game regardless, but I’ll transfer my reservation to dealer #2 who is the bigger than dealer #1 to offer another independent variable. This is beginning to sound like real 3rd grade science… BRONCO SCIENCE
I called ford and transferred my reservation to this dealer, which refunded my $100 deposit and put down $500 for the order and made a mental note to call the other dealer to place my deposit free order to increase my odds in the bronco lottery.
When the order banks opened I converted that 7/23/21 to order on 11/7/21 from what I was told was the 2nd largest dealer in central FL (the dealer that lent me the bronco for 24hrs). I thought about ordering from a dealer in Tampa who apparently was the top ford dealer in the country recently but I took some forumembers advice that the big dealers probably have a ton more orders so I went big but, not too big in my mind, but in all honesty, who the hell knows at this point? Especially given the fact that this logic defies the results.
Weeks go by and I forgot to call dealer one for my free order! SHIT!
But I wasn’t super worried as a super late 7/23/21 time stamp at a larger, but not “too large” dealer would surely end up being scheduled before a non-reserved, super late bronco order.
Super.
So on 11/4/21 I sent my spec sheet and called to confirm my order and I got the ford email and a Dora sheet.
Bronco Science
Scenario A:
Reservation Date: 7/23/21
Build Eruption Green badlands Sas
Dealer: Largest in city
Order date: 11/7/21
Scenario B:
Reservation Date: N/A (no reservation made)
Build: Area 51 Badlands Sas
Dealer: Not the Largest or the smallest in the city
Order date: 10/18/21
Again, both scenarios have identical trim/options
Fast forward to today 12/16/21 and much to my surprise… Scenario B is the winner and is scheduled for production 2/21/22.
Meanwhile the earlier timestamp reservation converted to order in Scenario A remains in order confirmation roulette.
Closing Statement:
I hope this helps illustrate the extent of the speculative nature of the of ordering a Bronco. Third grade science has proven that the order algorithm is complex beyond our wildest imaginations.
**** Updated INFO****
After reviewing my order info the dates were slightly off Scenario A with the reservation convert date was 11/7/21 and Scenario two order date was 10/18/21. I was initially going off my shoddy memory.
As the title suggests my initial findings thinking that the non-reservation order beating my late reservation turned out inaccurate. I got a text from my reservation dealer that the order was also scheduled for 2/21/22. Now I’m stuck with 2 vins scheduled for the same week
Currently, neither order online is showing up in production, I didn’t get an email for each but again, have two vin#s and confirmed with ford the dealer info is accurate on both orders. If the system updates I’ll photographic evidence of my sibling broncos.
I suppose at this point the horse race is a tie?
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