Can you confirm your 2025 Bronco Badlands SAS has TPMS?

[bgr33r]

Where are you seeing the "TPMS Training" procedure? I didn't see it in the manual. It sounds like you're doing the sensor learn procedure but not using the tool.

Many, many, many people on this forum have done 5 tire rotations since Bronco launch with no issues. Your spare may just have a bad sensor.

Is this what you're doing but not using the tool?
Step-by-Step Relearn Procedure:

1. Preparation: Ensure all tires are inflated to the pressure listed on the driver's side door jamb. Set the parking brake.
2. Enter Mode: Turn ignition to OFF. Press and release the brake pedal.
3. • Cycle Ignition: Turn the ignition from OFF to RUN 3 times, ending in RUN.
   • Finalize Entry: Press and release the brake pedal. Turn the ignition back to OFF.
   • Confirm Mode: Turn the ignition from OFF to RUN 3 times, ending in RUN. The horn will sound once, and the message center (if equipped) will display "TRAIN LF TIRE".
   • Train Sensors: Starting at the front-left (driver) tire, place your TPMS tool against the sidewall near the valve stem and press the button until the horn honks.
   • Order: Repeat for the right-front, right-rear, and left-rear tires, in that order.
   • Complete: The horn will honk a second time when the last tire is finished, confirming successful training.

Thanks for the question. Digging around I found instructions that get me to ‘Train Sensors’ by turning on assessory mode and pressing the hazard button 6 times rapidly. I also found instructions that said if I activate each sensor by letting about 1 psi of air out of the tire, it will train (and honk) that wheel - that seems to be true for all wheels but the spare. I e driven enough that I can’t imagine the spare sensor is just asleep.

i believe that either the car doesn’t know to look for the sensor in the spare, the signal is somehow jammed up with the already linked wheel, or that I have a faulty sensor.

you are correct that I’m not using a tool - I’ll have a ford one on Sunday. I worry I need something that adds the tire more fundamentally than the tool will (forscan).

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[Deadpool392]

I have rotated my tires 3 times, all 5, and the TPMS has never given me a problem.

 

[chopperbobby]

Did you do the rotation yourself? Did you need to retrain anything manually?

No dealer during oil change. it just picked it up took a mile or so

 

[bgr33r]

No dealer during oil change. it just picked it up took a mile or so

This is helpful, thanks. I suspect the dealer is training the spare themselves. While I’ve heard folks spares have worked with tpms, I haven’t read that an owner has popped the spare in and suddenly it’s working ootb.

 

[bgr33r]

I have rotated my tires 3 times, all 5, and the TPMS has never given me a problem.

When you rotated did you do it yourself or at dealer/tire center? Did they train tpms?

 

[bgr33r]

2025 outerbanks sas rotate spare in and it reads the rotated in tire

Did you rotate yourself or did the dealer or tire shop train the car?

 

[Deadpool392]

When you rotated did you do it yourself or at dealer/tire center? Did they train tpms?

I do it myself, the TPMS has always corrected itself on my first drive after rotating. On my previous Gladiator I did have a sensor fail in what was the spare at the time, when it rotated in there was just a line instead of the PSI. Discount tire was able to use there tool to verify that the TPMS was not working correctly, maybe see if they can check for you if there is one local.

 

[bgr33r]

Update:

I just visited the tire center. Together we scanned the original spare tire, finding a TPMS sensor is installed, an expected tire pressure (slightly higher than what’s on the car, purposely), and that it’s operating at 433 mhz (expected).



We also scanned all the tires on my car, finding expected tire pressures everywhere, and unique ids for all 5 sensors.



We discussed what happens if I get a flat. The tech explained that since my car has only 4 slots for pressures, when I have a flats, that tire will read ‘—‘ while the others will continue. I asked ‘would the new spare read automatically?’ and he started saying it would because all 5 tires are linked to my car. I said it didn’t after 2 trips. He backtracked to say I need to use an tpms electronics machine to add it to the car during training.



This leaves me thinking:

1. The machine is needed to add the spare to my car when it’s added
2. Or that maybe my spare has never been added

if I put the spare back into rotation, I’ll need to use a machine to add the tire.

 

[PCSM3]

It sounds like you are beyond the need for an answer to your original question. However, I have a '25 Badlands (SAS) and I recently did a 5-tire rotation (did it myself, no dealers or tire shops). The spare registered pretty much instantly once it was on the vehicle. I did not use any TPMS tools or programmers. It "just worked".

 

[Easy-v]

Thanks for the active responses in this thread—it’s exactly why I reached out.

TL;DR: I’ve decided to put the spare back on the rack and continue wearing down just the first four main tires. Here’s the breakdown of why, including some frustrating dealer backstory.

The Dealer Experience I’m avoiding the dealer for service work and warranty issues for two main reasons:

1. Safety Issues: After a hitch install when the vehicle was brand new (<100 miles), when I got home two lug nuts were missing the the last was finger-loose-almost-off; they almost all fell off on the drive home. The dealer sent a tech who brought new nuts, and then proceeded to under tighten them AGAIN: when I checked them with a torque wrench, they weren't even close to the 55 nm (41 lb-ft) spec.
2. Service Friction: Despite the Ford app stating rotations are included in the 10k service, the advisor was dismissive and quoted me $100+. Between that and the loose lugs, my trust in their service department is low.

The TPMS Struggle I tried to DIY the 5-tire sync this morning. I even ordered a Ford TPMS Syncing Tool (Item #FB4859) that arrives Sunday, but I wanted to solve it today.

• I set all tires to the same PSI. Then I attempted the hazard-light training mode again. While the front tires trained fine, the "new" tire in the rear-right position refused to register, even after dropping 5–10 PSI.
• The dash was still reading the PSI from the "old" spare (now on the back of the car) rather than the tire actually on the ground.

The Decision I was halfway to my reputable tire shop (a 45-minute drive) when I pulled over and changed my mind. I realized:

• Time vs. Reward: The effort to save 20% of tread life by rotating five tires is being eaten up by troubleshooting time.
• Replacement Logic: If I rotate five and blow one later, I’ll still likely have to buy two new tires to keep the tread depth within the 3-4mm matched range. If I keep the spare pristine, I already have my "replacement" ready to go.
• System Limits: It seems the Bronco system only wants to "active" train four sensors at a time. It's completely logical that the spare's sensor is just not activated, but this does not matter if I just use it as a spare.

Final Result: I found a flat lot, swapped the spare back to the rear carrier, and put the original four tires back in their starting positions. I ran the training sequence, and all four registered immediately. I’ll keep the syncing tool for the future, but for now, I’m sticking to the simplest path.

That said, if we believe all 5 tires have TPMS, I do not believe the 5th tire automatically is sensed when I add it to my vehicle. Is there a Ford Tech who can confirm that in the factory the 5th tire is added somehow? How would this work if only 4 can be synced at one time in training?

Onward and upward!

I manually after my oil change swap in my spare tire and it takes about three blocks for it to pick up the new tire. It does not detect the spare on the rack. I have a 22 however so …

I think you are overthinking this. Swap it in and see what happens.

 

[bgr33r]

It sounds like you are beyond the need for an answer to your original question. However, I have a '25 Badlands (SAS) and I recently did a 5-tire rotation (did it myself, no dealers or tire shops). The spare registered pretty much instantly once it was on the vehicle. I did not use any TPMS tools or programmers. It "just worked".

Appreciate the comment nonetheless. I expected the spare to register instantly as described and it did not.

 

[Todd H.]

It takes me about 2 miles of 40 mph or better (not dropping below 40) and they all come on line correctly. I always do a 5 tire rotation.

 

[Fordified1]

I just did a tire swap and the Bronco is not picking up the new locations of the sensors. It always did in the past.
@Ducati1098 is there a recent uptick of others having this issue?

 

[Ducati1098]

I just did a tire swap and the Bronco is not picking up the new locations of the sensors. It always did in the past.
@Ducati1098 is there a recent uptick of others having this issue?

Yes. I’ve had a handful of messages about TPMS issues recently. I know @Baja Bronco was one of them, I’d have to look through my messages to find the rest, but it does seem like an abnormal amount of TPMS issues recently.

I have not personally had one with this issue at work, so I’m not sure what the problem is. There’s a few different possibilities and it’s also possible not all of them are the same cause. But unfortunately at this time I just don’t have a decent way to pinpoint a certain cause without a vehicle exhibiting the issue. Hopefully this is something Ford is seeing also and maybe something they’ll have a fix for in the future?

For anyone having these issues I would suggest trying to manual re-train the sensors first if possible. If that doesn’t work, it may be worth doing a battery reset followed by a road test to see if they will respond correctly. Past that, I would just recommend bringing it to your local dealer so they can run through the pinpoint test which hopefully leads to a cause.

 

[Baja Bronco]

Yes. I’ve had a handful of messages about TPMS issues recently. I know @Baja Bronco was one of them, I’d have to look through my messages to find the rest, but it does seem like an abnormal amount of TPMS issues recently.

I have not personally had one with this issue at work, so I’m not sure what the problem is. There’s a few different possibilities and it’s also possible not all of them are the same cause. But unfortunately at this time I just don’t have a decent way to pinpoint a certain cause without a vehicle exhibiting the issue. Hopefully this is something Ford is seeing also and maybe something they’ll have a fix for in the future?

For anyone having these issues I would suggest trying to manual re-train the sensors first if possible. If that doesn’t work, it may be worth doing a battery reset followed by a road test to see if they will respond correctly. Past that, I would just recommend bringing it to your local dealer so they can run through the pinpoint test which hopefully leads to a cause.

Yeah, I’m at the bringing it to the dealer stage. Have an appointment next week. Tried everything, nothing worked. I’m under extended warranty, so it should be painless, lol. Once again thank you for all the help you have given me and others on here!!!

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