Normal road feedback or nah?

[OF Hero]

Hey all, I've had my '23 Wildtrak for a few months now and threw on aftermarket wheels/tires very early, so I don't quite remember the OEM SAS/Goodyear experience, but I've pretty much had this very low grade buzz from the steering wheel at highway speeds since day 1. Kicks in around 65-70 mph. I've had two shops rebalance and both of them said the Toyos balanced very easily.

I wouldn't even go as far as to call it a vibration, maybe "enhanced road feedback?" Running Toyo Open Country RT Trails at OEM size which are heavier and quite a bit more knobby than the Goodyears. Car tracks straight and no braking vibration, but I will say if I let go of the wheel at highway speeds you can see a tiny bit of "shake" in the steering wheel. Some highways I can feel it more than others so maybe the Toyos are just super sensitive to road feedback?

Worth taking it to a third shop and maybe ask for a road force balance? I keep seeing people here say their SAS are buttery smooth on the highway so I'm not sure if it's an actual issue or just a consequence of these beefier tires.

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[Fordified1]

Try rotating front to rear. Or did they already do that?

 

[OF Hero]

Try rotating front to rear. Or did they already do that?

Just did a 5 tire rotation, clockwise and it feels exactly the same as the first day they were mounted.

 

[Fordified1]

Just did a 5 tire rotation, clockwise and it feels exactly the same as the first day they were mounted.

If that’s the case, seems likely a mechanical vibration. Will be difficult to diagnose unfortunately.
My tires have very aggressive tread but only feel the tread at very slow speeds.

 

[Alanp970]

Just did a 5 tire rotation, clockwise and it feels exactly the same as the first day they were mounted.

Do you mean you moved each tire 1 spot clockwise? So the left front is now on the right front? Fronts need to go to the rear to eliminate them as a possibility. Also, yes getting a Roadforce balance can detect an issue with a tire that balances fine statically

 

[OF Hero]

If that’s the case, seems likely a mechanical vibration. Will be difficult to diagnose unfortunately.
My tires have very aggressive tread but only feel the tread at very slow speeds.

Are you thinking an issue with the suspension or front end?

Having a 4x4 shop I trust take a look tomorrow.

 

[OF Hero]

Do you mean you moved each tire 1 spot clockwise? So the left front is now on the right front? Fronts need to go to the rear to eliminate them as a possibility. Also, yes getting a Roadforce balance can detect an issue with a tire that balances fine statically

Correct, had it done with my recent oil change but it wasn't on my radar, re: doing front to back to assess vibration. Good idea, will mention it tomorrow.

 

[Fordified1]

Are you thinking an issue with the suspension or front end?

Having a 4x4 shop I trust take a look tomorrow.

If not tires/wheels, Would almost have to be other rotating mass like cv shafts or driveshafts.

 

[OF Hero]

Just a quick update: one of the fronts quickly failed a road force balance, was able to be balanced but just moved it to the spare for now.

Everything is super smooth now.

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