Raptor R 5.2 V8 engine swap

[Ducati1098]

The PCM shouldn't be much of a concern. I'm running an unlocked F150 PCM in my Bronco. All that's different is the calibration loaded into the PCM.

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[BlueBronco]

The PCM shouldn't be much of a concern. I'm running an unlocked F150 PCM in my Bronco. All that's different is the calibration loaded into the PCM.

Wait, what?
Care to provide us with more info on the how's and why's of an F150 PCM?

 

[TeocaliMG]

I belong to a forum called diog.net.. Well I don't contribute much there. It is a read-only forum for me. And I have learned a great deal about this subject. I've read about and watched literally hundreds of mechanics in the nation. Use modules that are used or new and install them in. Many different makes and models across platforms in places. They don't belong or did not originate. The vehicle architecture, it's quite simple and ninety nine percent of the modules have the same pin outs for the same vehicles purposes. The computers communicate together the same way. T This is really not that difficult to do, and there are several ways to solve the problems that may arise.

Plan a would be to simply program the Broncos modules to think they are in a different the vehicle.

When b would be to rob the actual modules from the other vehicle and install them in the bronco. This is a very good prospect, as ninety nine percent of the wiring harness is the same across platforms

I hope you are right; I am not at all a SW or CAN expert. My exposure to it is relatively recent, 2023MY+ vehicles.

My fear is that the newer vehicles (even disregarding CMA, thought that will be an issue on other newer vehicles, not on Bronco thankfully) are so much more integrated than older generations that even with some programming, certain signals will not match up as designed for each respective cal, leading to DTC's or loss of features.

I think a bit of good news is you plan to keep the hyper integrated sections paired up as intended PCM/TCM for the 5.2/auto, and ABS/PSCM/BCM for the Bronco.

 

[Ducati1098]

Wait, what?
Care to provide us with more info on the how's and why's of an F150 PCM?

Unlocking a PCM is the only way to edit or make changes to the calibration in newer/modern locked PCMs, which is how 2.7/3.0 Broncos are able to be fully custom tuned.
https://www.tunedbyzfgracing.com/pr...o-mg1-replacement-ecu-upgraded-with-hp-tuners

I don't exactly know all the ins and outs, but here is a decent video of HP tuners explaining it.
https://www.hptuners.com/articles/hp-tuners-ecm-pcm-and-tcm-services-explained/

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

The PCM shouldn't be much of a concern. I'm running an unlocked F150 PCM in my Bronco. All that's different is the calibration loaded into the PCM.

Thank you. I've been trying to explain this for a long time. You can just take a module. That is compatible, and do the programming and configuration to use it for your desired application... This is the way bosch, and ford intended it

 

[RIDE]

Thank you. I've been trying to explain this for a long time. You can just take a module. That is compatible, and do the programming and configuration to use it for your desired application... This is the way bosch, and ford intended it

My mind =

Cool, but crazy to me!

 

[RIDE]

The PCM shouldn't be much of a concern. I'm running an unlocked F150 PCM in my Bronco. All that's different is the calibration loaded into the PCM.

As little as I know about modern “modulization” of the auto, I actually knew this was a thing. I had a ‘95 ski boat with an LT1 Vette in and to get it to run best at my altitude, we remapped a PCM from plain jane 350 TBI. Ran like a raped ape.

 

[SROC3]

Hit up RPG. I will bet they can do it if anyone can. And DO IT THE BEST. Or......just get their top upgrade FOR the Bronco (not Raptor) - called the ProRunner. BOOM.
https://automotiveperformancegroup.com/bronco-prorunner/

 

[Lcubed]

Hit up RPG. I will bet they can do it if anyone can. And DO IT THE BEST. Or......just get their top upgrade FOR the Bronco (not Raptor) - called the ProRunner. BOOM.
https://automotiveperformancegroup.com/bronco-prorunner/

you mean APG, right?

 

[SROC3]

you mean APG, right?

Crummy yes....APG

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

The PCM shouldn't be much of a concern. I'm running an unlocked F150 PCM in my Bronco. All that's different is the calibration loaded into the PCM.

This is fantastic information just made my day!
What yr F150 PCM? how was it UN-LOCKED?

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

Now that the 5.2 is available as a crate engine can someone please give me suggestions/constructive criticism.

Note: I did not get a Raptor R as I like SUVs better and Bronco has better approach/departure angle, aftermarket part supply (debatable) and looks more unique. I wish Ford RR looked different than Ford Raptor (difference 2 negligible for average person to be notice).

Any way how much things would have to be updated/changes for the 5.2 swap to work. What kind of exterior, interior, frame, exhaust, ECU, suspension mods etc would have to be completed. I want it done properly and not just stick a large engine in (like bodybuilders with small legs and massive upper body this would look and perform below par).

I want the thing as close to Raptor R OEM performance as possible in all aspects of the vehicle, not just the engine.

Anyone know a reputable shop with hands on experience that could perform such a task in North America (CAN, USA, MEX) and ball park price when all said/done (thinking over 75k USD easily)

Thanks!

IVE completed this swap, let me know when you want yours done, I'd do another one.

 

[CNCBITS]

IVE completed this swap, let me know when you want yours done, I'd do another one.

Thats awesome, got any details or pics ?

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

Thats awesome, got any details or pics ?

https://bronco6g.com/forum/threads/...redator-engine-swap-bronco-info-thread.81812/

 

[UniBroncorn]

IVE completed this swap, let me know when you want yours done, I'd do another one.

What is total cost. Including installing.

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