Warn Bronco Winch Kit not compatible with Base Bronco?!?

[Little Foot]

Can anyone tell me why this, Warn Bronco Winch Kit, would not be compatible with a Base Bronco with a Modular Bumper and Aux Switches? What am I missing with this?

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-1821-B

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[Rkgzx9leftcoast]

Yeah, I se that also. I was looking at the mounting plate for My Base after it comes in. I do see they say it does not fit First Additions either? There is a member here who did put it on his first addition. Build thread is modifymikes... in build section?

 

[JoshuaPrieto]

My guess would be headlight requirements for the Base and Black Diamond, neither of which can get the LED upgrades from the factory... but I'm not entirely sure if that is why

As for the First Edition, I have not a clue why they'd be affected

EDIt: Yes I do, sorry - because of the front radar system

 

[RagnarKon]

My guess would be headlight requirements for the Base and Black Diamond, neither of which can get the LED upgrades from the factory... but I'm not entirely sure if that is why

As for the First Edition, I have not a clue why they'd be affected

It isn't available on the First Edition because of the Lux package. The winch blocks the adaptive cruise control sensor.

And you are correct as to why it is not available on Base or Black Diamond. It is because of LED signature wiring (or lack thereof). What is so special about the LED signature wiring that makes it compatible while the standard lightning packages are incompatible... I don't know. Doesn't make any sense, so I can only assume it is something stupid.

 

[JoshuaPrieto]

It isn't available on the First Edition because of the Lux package. The winch blocks the adaptive cruise control sensor.

And you are correct as to why it is not available on Base or Black Diamond. It is because of LED signature wiring (or lack thereof). What is so special about the LED signature wiring that makes it compatible while the standard lightning packages are incompatible... I don't know. Doesn't make any sense, so I can only assume it is something stupid.

correct, my fault- wasn't thinking lol

It could be due to light output compliance FMVSS

EDIT: The Lamp Configuration is the reason why you cannot put the winch on the vehicle - it blocks the light projection on the base/black diamond LED light headlamps

(a) Each lamp and reflective device must be installed in a location where it complies with all applicable photometric requirements and visibility requirements, with all obstructions (e.g., mirrors, snow plows, wrecker booms, backhoes, and winches) installed on the vehicle;

the blahblahblah... safety requirement stuff

 

[Little Foot]

correct, my fault- wasn't thinking lol

It could be due to light output compliance FMVSS

EDIT: The Lamp Configuration is the reason why you cannot put the winch on the vehicle - it blocks the light projection on the base/black diamond LED light headlamps

(a) Each lamp and reflective device must be installed in a location where it complies with all applicable photometric requirements and visibility requirements, with all obstructions (e.g., mirrors, snow plows, wrecker booms, backhoes, and winches) installed on the vehicle;

the blahblahblah... safety requirement stuff

BUT isn’t the location of ALL lights the same regardless. That is why you can swap a Base Grill with say a Wildtrak Grill? Is there any physical reason that it cannot work? Like the winch plate and parts will not connect or the winch cannot be wired to the AUX Switches, etc…?

 

[JoshuaPrieto]

BUT isn’t the location of ALL lights the same regardless. That is why you can swap a Base Grill with say a Wildtrak Grill? Is there any physical reason that it cannot work? Like the winch plate and parts will not connect or the winch cannot be wired to the AUX Switches, etc…?

The upgraded headlamps are brighter, same exterior dimensions, but the Winch does something to the base headlamps that make them a safety issue for FMVSS for light displacement

I cannot answer that with a promising response regarding placement. The Installation PDF is extremely in-depth so it is hard to say - I'm sorry.

 

[Little Foot]

The upgraded headlamps are brighter, same exterior dimensions, but the Winch does something to the base headlamps that make them a safety issue for FMVSS for light displacement

I cannot answer that with a promising response regarding placement. The Installation PDF is extremely in-depth so it is hard to say - I'm sorry.

No worries. It is just frustrating that there is a solution for a winch on the front of the Bronco that was designed to work with the OEM Modular Bumper, but isn’t considered compatible because of the type of LED light? Seems silly.

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