Who buys a 1st year anything?

[Harl of Jager]

I've been in this rodeo for some time. I put my order in for a new Bronco like everyone else did. Then I got to thinking, who buys the first year of anything? Are people really surprised there are problems with the new Bronco? If you expected perfection from the 1st year or manufacturer, you must be new to this game. I'm dying to hear your response on why you bought a first year rig. A limited addition is one thing, it's a collector vehicle. But if you want dependability, wait a few years for the inevitable bugs to be worked out. Everyone howled for FORD to get the Bronco out the door, ASAP. OK fine, and this is what you get, what did people expect? From what I hear and read, many of the problem were for out sourcing the manufacturer of components. Never fear, FORD will get it right eventually. If FORD was allowed to do proper R&D, many of the issues seen today would have been dealt with before the release.

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[L8apex]

Reasons for first year from an automotive engineer.

1) Issues are covered by warranty
2) Cost reductions haven’t gone into place. Sound deadening, heat shielding, higher quality parts are typically the first things to go in subsequent years. EDIT: I’ve got numbers on my temp knobs….
3) The bronco is adult legos, I’m going to end up replacing most components anyways - looking at you tie rods.
4) Software bugs can be updated over the air. No need to go to the dealership for a flash.
5) *MAYBE many years down the line my 21MY may have a higher resale, like 64.5 mustang.

*highly speculative and I’m never going to sell this truck.

 

[techdisaster]

If no one purchased a first-year product there won't be a second year. If things go terribly wrong, I'm protected by consumer laws, credit protection, and an extended warranty. And I like trying new things. So I'll gladly be a consumer beta tester and Ford's quality control. You're welcome.

 

[GToddC5]

I guess because I'm an idiot, and let my emotions get the best of me.

No regrets!

 

[BroncMe]

the 2.7 had some serious manufacturing run problems (weak valves) like early 2.3 mustangs and RSs did (head gaskets), but that's about it by my read. yeah sure, order process and top suppliers. whoop-de-do

about the only actual design flaw I see is the inability to keep dirt off the sides of it without whopper-sized mud flaps

forums amplify a relatively few voices. ever owned a land rover or any bmw less than 10 years old? yikes

 

[SubmarineNuke]

I bought, knowing there could be bugs. But I went in knowing that if there were any issues Ford would cover them under warranty. And then I purchased an extended warranty on top of that because we don’t have history on these vehicles. We don’t know that they’ll last 60k and fall apart of 250k and still keep kicking. I had a Tundra before this and had no issues not buying an extended warranty because those things were damned near bullet proof. But with warranty Ford will make it right.

The bigger issue isn’t warranty work. It’s warranty work on a timely manner. We are seeing what buying a new vehicle during these times is really resulting in weeks or months of waiting for a part to get back on the road. And people who’ve been in accidents are finding their Broncos totaled out because they can’t get parts at all.

 

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[Ground_zero298]

#35 off the line.
Only complaint is it’s severely under powered compared to the zo6 and zr1.

I like first year models because they usually come with little items that eventually disappear in the years following. But thats only select vehicles.

 

[MNBigfoot]

Retro vehicles look great for about 3 years, then their luster wears away.

 

[Lifeliberty]

Retro vehicles look great for about 3 years, then their luster wears away.

True. But i don't see the new bronco as a retro remake at all. All the things i thought i would miss about my 88 bronco i don't even think about now.

ONLY thing nostalgic that i miss is the folding quarter windows and fold down bench seat. But really, it's an all new vehicle so impossible to compare

 

[SASProbie]

I suspect that this question is intended for the vehicles that come out. However, it is such a broad question, I will answer this way...

If one stops and thinks about it. We buy quite a few items that are 1st year items. Tools that come and go, computers, tech, clothing and so on.

Seems to work out just fine.

Manufactures never go into 1st year production expecting a pile of failures. In fact, they may be more guilty of trying to prevent them than anything.

Yeah sure, we can point to issues.

Every home is new at some point. And even build styles/techniques/requirements change constantly.

So really. What is "1st"? Everything is a knock off of prior work and lessons are constantly learned.

YMMV...

 

[F OR D]

the 2.7 had some serious manufacturing run problems (weak valves) like early 2.3 mustangs and RSs did (head gaskets), but that's about it by my read. yeah sure, order process and top suppliers. whoop-de-do

about the only actual design flaw I see is the inability to keep dirt off the sides of it without whopper-sized mud flaps

forums amplify a relatively few voices. ever owned a land rover or any bmw less than 10 years old? yikes

this is your answer. the problems are on par with other releases, biggest real issue us inability to produce and ship. i'd do it again given the opportunity or for 7g.

 

[RagnarKon]

To be honest... my kids are now old enough for skiing/camping/hiking/off-roading/etc. They'll only be in my house for so long and I don't want to lose those years while I wait around for the bugs to be fixed.

 

[BroncMe]

Retro vehicles look great for about 3 years, then their luster wears away.

maybe, but I expect the bronco is more wrangler-like than PT cruiser-like

 

[MayhemMike]

First year Bronco owners came away with the temperature numbers in the climate control knobs. Looks like they came out the winners, those lucky bastards. LOL. Other then that, the only difference between my 22 and a 21 is the year indicated on the title and VIN.

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