6/30 blend dates

[myrealname123]

What does it mean when the date on the window sticker changes?

Nothing at all. Well, that date is updated every 7 days after the original posting date.

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[Ahauser2010]

I need to get off of this page for a while… too depressing.

 

[MWCK35]

So, I live in the home of the Jeep. Next weekend is Jeepfest and all I want is my Bronco before then. But here I live in Bronco purgatory with an estimated delivery date of 2+ weeks ago.

 

[Hailalien]

Our person that has sources has been quiet too.

Assuming your referring to me. Not like there is much to say that hasn't already been said, about 6k units are on hold for the supplier quality issue we all have been keenly aware of for some time now. Let me dispel some roomers/concerns I keep seeing as I've gone through 15 pages today.

1)No Ford is not going to scrap the units, I have seen hundreds of cars get ripped apart to replace the body harness and then get put back together before. Replacing a roof because of delamination is nothing.
2)Most likely MAP will bring in the high seniority and product specialist from the off shift and run the vehicles through the mod center for a campaign like this. Trying to fit vehicles back into the line would be a mess and not needed for this.
3)There is not a chip shortage on bronco
4)You cant take parts allocated for the line and shift them to the vehicle that are on hold. That would shut the line down and they have 100,000 of these thing to build. Im sure the roofs are a JIT part so I'm going to guess that if Webasto was up this week when MAP was down then they were probably making tops for the stop ship trucks. Then next week would go back to supplying the line.

I'm just sitting here watching all these people loose there minds. I waited almost 6 months for my car to ship from Germany to Michigan after being built, so 1 month although its annoying is not that bad. Just relax the vehicles will get fixed and ship as soon as they can be, 2 weeks after you get your shinny new bronco you wont care that you waited an extra month.

But let me give everyone who read this far one more bit of advice, your sales person, dealer GM, or regional rep have no clue what is going on. In the automotive industry the dealers are always the last to know. I have been told a dozen times by my sales person that she needs to talk with me more often to get info. If you want them to check Vehicle Visibility to check the status that is fine but that's about all they can reliably do.

TL;DR: Units are still on hold, they will get fixed, breath and relax, stop asking your dealer they don't know

 

[SpringTXOR]

Assuming your referring to me. Not like there is much to say that hasn't already said, about 6k units are on hold for the supplier quality issue we all have been keenly aware of for some time now. Let me dispel some roomers/concerns I keep seeing as I've gone through 15 pages today.

1)No Ford is not going to scrap the units, I have seen hundreds of cars get ripped apart to replace the body harness and then get put back together before. Replacing a roof because of delamination is nothing.
2)Most likely MAP will bring in the high seniority and product specialist from the off shift and run the vehicles through the mod center for a campaign like this. Trying to fit vehicles back into the line would be a mess and not needed for this.
3)There is not a chip shortage on bronco
4)You cant take parts allocated for the line and shift them to the vehicle that are on hold. That would shut the line down and they have 100,000 of these thing to build. Im sure the roofs are a JIT part so I'm going to guess that if Webasto was up this week when MAP was down then they were probably making tops for the stop ship trucks. Then next week would go back to supplying the line.

I'm just sitting here watching all these people loose there minds. I waited almost 6 months for my car to ship from Germany to Michigan after being built, so 1 month although its annoying is not that bad. Just relax the vehicles will get fixed and ship as soon as they can be, 2 weeks after you get your shinny new bronco you wont care that you waited an extra month.

But let me give everyone who read this far one more bit of advice, your sales person, dealer GM, or regional rep have no clue what is going on. In the automotive industry the dealers are always the last to know. I have been told a dozen times by my sales person that she needs to talk with me more often to get info. If you want them to check Vehicle Visibility to check the status that is fine but that's about all they can reliably do.

TL;DR: Units are still on hold, they will get fixed, breath and relax, stop asking you dealer they don't know

Thanks for the info! My Bronco hold it just the icing on the cake to me losing my mind, most of it is the current state of the employment market with me being on the hiring side. I just hope they do the right thing and take care of us that have been waiting the longest first, only seems fair. One reason I would not buy a euro car, that boat trip would absolutely kill me. I usually just buy what's on the lot and they want to get rid of the quickest!

 

[EA First Edition]

Well at this rate it’s looking like my 2022 s class Mercedes with a august 10th build date will be here all the way from Germany before my bronco goes 1000 miles to my dealer lol. Just get me the dang car before October so SEMA stress doesn’t kill me

 

[WRF3MD]

Assuming your referring to me. Not like there is much to say that hasn't already been said, about 6k units are on hold for the supplier quality issue we all have been keenly aware of for some time now. Let me dispel some roomers/concerns I keep seeing as I've gone through 15 pages today.

1)No Ford is not going to scrap the units, I have seen hundreds of cars get ripped apart to replace the body harness and then get put back together before. Replacing a roof because of delamination is nothing.
2)Most likely MAP will bring in the high seniority and product specialist from the off shift and run the vehicles through the mod center for a campaign like this. Trying to fit vehicles back into the line would be a mess and not needed for this.
3)There is not a chip shortage on bronco
4)You cant take parts allocated for the line and shift them to the vehicle that are on hold. That would shut the line down and they have 100,000 of these thing to build. Im sure the roofs are a JIT part so I'm going to guess that if Webasto was up this week when MAP was down then they were probably making tops for the stop ship trucks. Then next week would go back to supplying the line.

I'm just sitting here watching all these people loose there minds. I waited almost 6 months for my car to ship from Germany to Michigan after being built, so 1 month although its annoying is not that bad. Just relax the vehicles will get fixed and ship as soon as they can be, 2 weeks after you get your shinny new bronco you wont care that you waited an extra month.

But let me give everyone who read this far one more bit of advice, your sales person, dealer GM, or regional rep have no clue what is going on. In the automotive industry the dealers are always the last to know. I have been told a dozen times by my sales person that she needs to talk with me more often to get info. If you want them to check Vehicle Visibility to check the status that is fine but that's about all they can reliably do.

TL;DR: Units are still on hold, they will get fixed, breath and relax, stop asking your dealer they don't know

So, how many of those on hold do you realistically think they can "fix" this week? Even if they can fix 99%, what happens to the 1%? Wait for the next shutdown?

 

[Sherminiator]

So, how many of those on hold do you realistically think they can "fix" this week? Even if they can fix 99%, what happens to the 1%? Wait for the next shutdown?

The shutdown has zero to do with units still being held in lots. They will be "fixed" when the parts come in for them.

 

[Rlack75]

Did a single stranded bronco get a built email this week. (So far 7/26-7/29)

 

[JollyFolly]

Assuming your referring to me. Not like there is much to say that hasn't already been said, about 6k units are on hold for the supplier quality issue we all have been keenly aware of for some time now. Let me dispel some roomers/concerns I keep seeing as I've gone through 15 pages today.

1)No Ford is not going to scrap the units, I have seen hundreds of cars get ripped apart to replace the body harness and then get put back together before. Replacing a roof because of delamination is nothing.
2)Most likely MAP will bring in the high seniority and product specialist from the off shift and run the vehicles through the mod center for a campaign like this. Trying to fit vehicles back into the line would be a mess and not needed for this.
3)There is not a chip shortage on bronco
4)You cant take parts allocated for the line and shift them to the vehicle that are on hold. That would shut the line down and they have 100,000 of these thing to build. Im sure the roofs are a JIT part so I'm going to guess that if Webasto was up this week when MAP was down then they were probably making tops for the stop ship trucks. Then next week would go back to supplying the line.

I'm just sitting here watching all these people loose there minds. I waited almost 6 months for my car to ship from Germany to Michigan after being built, so 1 month although its annoying is not that bad. Just relax the vehicles will get fixed and ship as soon as they can be, 2 weeks after you get your shinny new bronco you wont care that you waited an extra month.

But let me give everyone who read this far one more bit of advice, your sales person, dealer GM, or regional rep have no clue what is going on. In the automotive industry the dealers are always the last to know. I have been told a dozen times by my sales person that she needs to talk with me more often to get info. If you want them to check Vehicle Visibility to check the status that is fine but that's about all they can reliably do.

TL;DR: Units are still on hold, they will get fixed, breath and relax, stop asking your dealer they don't know

Thanks for sharing, but it still doesn’t answer anything. At a certain point in production, cars were moved to purgatory. The question is why? I don’t think it’s a parts shortage, why would they start production on our cars without the parts, but then during 7/12 - 7/23 ramp up, produce and ship pretty much every truck they made.
I am a believer of the Bad Batch Club and we are in it.

 

[JollyFolly]

Did a single person get a built email this week. (So far 7/26-7/29)

Nope and my delivery day of two weeks ago disappeared this morning.

 

[Sherminiator]

Thanks for sharing, but it still doesn’t answer anything. At a certain point in production, cars were moved to purgatory. The question is why? I don’t think it’s a parts shortage, why would they start production on our cars without the parts, but then during 7/12 - 7/23 ramp up, produce and ship pretty much every truck they made.
I am a believer of the Bad Batch Club and we are in it.

Let's put it this way...it is not JUST a parts shortage

I have proof my 7/2 build is just waiting for splash guards to show up-I have yet to see a delivered Bronco with them on it.

As for Broncos built the past two weeks-if you can find an EXACTLY same build as to what you might have, you might have an argument. Just because product has been built doesn't mean that it will be affected by what is ever affecting the pre 7/2 builds.

I'm sure that the Broncos currently sitting have different things that are "wrong" with them like a lack of parts, bad MIC tops and who knows what else. There isn't a common thread to say oh they just all have x missing or x wrong with them.

 

[Papa Smurf]

@Hailalien thank you again for providing us some insider perspective. If your estimations are correct about 5-6k stop ship builds (which I think is very likely), how many of those actually need repair/replace vs those that are ok to ship but we’re just held for more QC. For conversation let’s just say 75% as a guess. 3750 now need new roofs. How many can a small team at the Mod Center replace in a day? 50-100? At best then, that’s another 37 work days to cycle through all of those builds. I don’t see this problem going away any time soon. It’s likely Ford feels the same way and that is part of the reason why their lips are sealed.

 

[CO-Bronco]

why would they start production on our cars without the parts, but then during 7/12 - 7/23 ramp up, produce and ship pretty much every truck they made.

7/12-7/23 has arguably more in limbo than the June's Bad Batch. Hell just the 7/19 thread alone has over 170 pages.

I know it's not a pissing match, this is just so much larger than many think.

They HAD to have known the was issues with the MICs during the 7/12 week. They saw it all over the 6/28 week and even earlier.

Pump as many Broncos down the line a possible, that's their only care at the moment.

They'll get to us ~6k in quarantine eventually..... But not before another 1000 a day, every day of new builds get built and shipped first.

 

[Unit91]

@Hailalien thank you again for providing us some insider perspective. If your estimations are correct about 5-6k stop ship builds (which I think is very likely), how many of those actually need repair/replace vs those that are ok to ship but we’re just held for more QC. For conversation let’s just say 75% as a guess. 3750 now need new roofs. How many can a small team at the Mod Center replace in a day? 50-100? At best then, that’s another 37 work days to cycle through all of those builds. I don’t see this problem going away any time soon. It’s likely Ford feels the same way and that is part of the reason why their lips are sealed.

The mod center has multiple bays. For instance, where they install the roof racks. So, the people aspect and shifts is the big variable.

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