Badlands Bronco Thread

[quattroa4m]

Plus the Bilsteins, the signature grille, wheels instead of steelies, think there was uprated display in there somewhere too sure I'm missing a few other things.

Still $6K is a lot of extra $$$ for shocks, grille, and aluminum wheels. The display would appear to be the same.

Upgraded headlights, rear
Bumper, gauge cluster...
if you were to add sas to BD.... the difference is worth the extra $$ imo

You're adding FSB disconnect, locking front axle, automatic On-Demand 4x4, and LT285 instead of LT265 tires, and shocks, grille, and aluminum wheels.

Now if you add sas, it all starts to make sense. But without sas, for me, it's hard to see the value for the extra $6K.

Again, just trying to justify the $$$ difference between the Black Diamond and the Badlands. Shocks, tires, and wheels are easy enough to change and probably will be at some point.

The hard bits , FSB disconnect, locking front axle, automatic On-Demand 4x4, and grill, would be hard to source in the aftermarket (if ever). However, are they worth $6K to get? That appears to be the quandary.

The gauge cluster? Is it not the same?

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[Gamecock]

Still $6K is a lot of extra $$$ for shocks, grille, and aluminum wheels. The display would appear to be the same.

You're adding FSB disconnect, locking front axle, automatic On-Demand 4x4, and LT285 instead of LT265 tires, and shocks, grille, and aluminum wheels.

Now if you add sas, it all starts to make sense. But without sas, for me, it's hard to see the value for the extra $6K.

Again, just trying to justify the $$$ difference between the Black Diamond and the Badlands. Shocks, tires, and wheels are easy enough to change and probably will be at some point.

The hard bits , FSB disconnect, locking front axle, automatic On-Demand 4x4, and grill, would be hard to source in the aftermarket (if ever). However, are they worth $6K to get? That appears to be the quandary.

The gauge cluster? Is it not the same?

I'm looking at a Black Diamond now....because of the Ford gouging on the Sasquatch package on the Badlands. Basically, I can get the same truck for $4k less, with the only thing I care about being the Sway Bar disconnect.

Differences between Sas Badlands and Sas Black Diamond ($4k diff) with Mid package:

Sway bar disconnect
GOAT Mode Baja instead of Sport (advantage Black Diamond)
Grille (Don't Care)
LED signature lighting (Don't Care)
High Level Instrument Panel (What is this?)
Advanced 4x4 with Automatic on demand engagement. (Worth very little to me)

So...how hard will it be to manually disconnect the say bar on these things? I want it...but $4k is tough to swallow for just that at the end of the day. The money isn't a huge deal to me, but the principle of paying all that for a sway bar disconnect is tough.

 

[quattroa4m]

I'm looking at a Black Diamond now....because of the Ford gouging on the Sasquatch package on the Badlands. Basically, I can get the same truck for $4k less, with the only thing I care about being the Sway Bar disconnect.

Differences between Sas Badlands and Sas Black Diamond ($4k diff) with Mid package:

Sway bar disconnect
GOAT Mode Baja instead of Sport (advantage Black Diamond)
Grille (Don't Care)
LED signature lighting (Don't Care)
High Level Instrument Panel (What is this?)
Advanced 4x4 with Automatic on demand engagement. (Worth very little to me)

So...how hard will it be to manually disconnect the say bar on these things? I want it...but $4k is tough to swallow for just that at the end of the day. The money isn't a huge deal to me, but the principle of paying all that for a sway bar disconnect is tough.

You did a better job of laying out the BD vs. BL quandary than I did.

Actually, the High Level Instrument Panel in the BL is making me do a slow burn. What are the lower trims getting, retro idiot lights?

Right now Sas Base is looking better and better. Ford may have just outsmarted themselves.

 

[VictoryLights]

Man... This pricing sheet has REALLY gotten me second guessing my Badlands love. Convince me I'm wrong fellow badlanders!

How so? What do you think is overpriced and what is a better option?

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Still $6K is a lot of extra $$$ for shocks, grille, and aluminum wheels. The display would appear to be the same.

You're adding FSB disconnect, locking front axle, automatic On-Demand 4x4, and LT285 instead of LT265 tires, and shocks, grille, and aluminum wheels.

Now if you add sas, it all starts to make sense. But without sas, for me, it's hard to see the value for the extra $6K.

Again, just trying to justify the $$$ difference between the Black Diamond and the Badlands. Shocks, tires, and wheels are easy enough to change and probably will be at some point.

The hard bits , FSB disconnect, locking front axle, automatic On-Demand 4x4, and grill, would be hard to source in the aftermarket (if ever). However, are they worth $6K to get? That appears to be the quandary.

The gauge cluster? Is it not the same?

Can't make the decision if the equipment differences are worth it to you or not. If you can source what you need to match or exceed a BL with a BD at a cheaper price then march ahead. Once Ford finalizes pricing with stand alone options and releases full package specs then we will all be better informed as to whether to click the box or not.

 

[quattroa4m]

Can't make the decision if the equipment differences are worth it to you or not. If you can source what you need to match or exceed a BL with a BD at a cheaper price then march ahead. Once Ford finalizes pricing with stand alone options and releases full package specs then we will all be better informed as to whether to click the box or not.

Understood.

Just trying to pick everyone's brain to see how they arrived at their decisions. Always willing to admit when I'm looking at something the wrong way.

 

[TheFuzzyBunny]

Yeah, I'm still looking, and we don't know all the costs and options, that being said the BlackSqautch is significantly cheaper than a BadSquatch if you run as much of the same gear as you can. You miss the swaybar disconnect, and access to High / Lux, but not a lot else. Ideally getting a Badlands with a lift and 35s to me is better than getting the Sasquatch package.

 

[JZ1995]

If this was already mentioned then sorry... didn’t have time to read through the 40 pages of this thread.

One factor that I’ve been thinking about is resale. I know wranglers hold their value well. But would a stock badlands hold its value better than a modded BD? I’d rather pay more up front and not spend money on mods and be able to get out of it without losing abunch of cash if I end up not absolutely loving it

 

[FourHorses]

Where I kind of am is this... What's a better choice? A BD with Sasquatch or a BL without.
Obviously we all know the differences, but what's a better choice if the money is similar and they are optioned similar...

 

[The_Phew]

There hasn't been a 4x4 available with both a manual transmission and an automatic transfer case since the FJ Cruiser offered that combo.

I'll pay a decent premium for that kind of unicorn. I don't know about ya'll, but winters in the mid-Atlantic mean patches of plowed roads with random unplowed/icy sections. Babysitting a manual transfer case through these conditions gets old FAST.

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Understood.

Just trying to pick everyone's brain to see how they arrived at their decisions. Always willing to admit when I'm looking at something the wrong way.

I'm with you, everyone is going to be making the best choice for them and so far mine is the BL based on what it already has equipped. IMO the Sasquatch package doesn't make sense on the BL since you already have the Bilstein's and 33's plus all the other add-on's. Am I going to rock crawl? nope, probably never but I want the suspension package with the smaller tires, the signature grille and I'll add the mid package, the optional wheels (not the Sas ones), probably the modular top and will be keeping the 2.3 and 7-speed. This in my reasoning puts me where I want to be in price and far exceeds the capabilities I need in my normal driving. Now if I was a hard core offroader, then Base or BD and wouldn't worry about the Sas either because yes, the aftermarket will provide lifts, suspension, wheels/tires, etc with even more capability so there really is no need to pay twice for parts to get the job done your way or for parts you don't need.

I'd seriously look at everything offered out there for Wrangler to make your shopping list vice the Ford page and if it's something you want on your future Bronco then start a savings account because it'll be available soon after they go on sale. Once again, IMO, I think Ford did a decent job with the packages, are they perfect? nope, but they give everyone an option at their perfect baseline to build on.

 

[Karl_in_Chicago]

Where I kind of am is this... What's a better choice? A BD with Sasquatch or a BL without.
Obviously we all know the differences, but what's a better choice if the money is similar and they are optioned similar...

Adding wheels and tires is relatively easy, Jeeps do it all the time. Over time the used market also gets saturated with people swapping their stock wheels/tires for aftermarket, making like-new sets very affordable (look at how many complete sets of Rubicon wheels and tires go for under $1K). Adding the other gear is more complicated, but not impossible. You just need to choose what is most important to you, nobody else can.

 

[Gpscharron]

Yeah... But... I'm 4 door (It's closer in size to my 96), 2.7 Auto (Wife can't drive a stick and I plan to stay married), and thinking about going 35s....

I love the idea of the Badlands. If there is an affordable way to factory get the lift and 35s without getting the Sasquatch I'm probably still in, I don't need Trail Cruise control...

I guess it really depends on why and how badly you want 35”. The reason why I am going with BL vs. WT is because of the 33” BF- AT tires.. Rated the BEST BY many as the go to tire for road and off-road use.

 

[Treeza61]

I'm looking at a Black Diamond now....because of the Ford gouging on the Sasquatch package on the Badlands. Basically, I can get the same truck for $4k less, with the only thing I care about being the Sway Bar disconnect.

Differences between Sas Badlands and Sas Black Diamond ($4k diff) with Mid package:

Sway bar disconnect
GOAT Mode Baja instead of Sport (advantage Black Diamond)
Grille (Don't Care)
LED signature lighting (Don't Care)
High Level Instrument Panel (What is this?)
Advanced 4x4 with Automatic on demand engagement. (Worth very little to me)

So...how hard will it be to manually disconnect the say bar on these things? I want it...but $4k is tough to swallow for just that at the end of the day. The money isn't a huge deal to me, but the principle of paying all that for a sway bar disconnect is tough.

I’m now between the BL and the Wildtrak. BD just doesn’t do it for me. I like the extras the other two models offer.

 

[Cheshire]

Badlands deposit in as well. Anyone think the Mid, High, Lux packages have too many electronic nannies? I may just opt for the Sasquatch and 2.7 (if the 2.3 is direct injection only).

Standard pkg is all I want

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