Fuel Wheels D557 6 offset

[HoosierDaddy]

I also look at the wheel weight. Some are 25 pounds and some get over 30. Lighter is typically better.

I know the tires leap from factory Base 39lbs to 59lbs for some of the ones I have looked at!

Now we need the Stig to take a scale to work and weigh those factory wheels!

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[Wanted33]

My question is with of the OBX stock wheels being 18x7.5 will the stock tires work OK on say an 18x9 aftermarket?

 

[DUSTYcazOREGON]

I see that the stock wheels on the Bronco are 55 offset. I have a base Bronco on order and want to put on 33” tires with the Fuel d557 wheel with a 6 offset. It should push the tires out about 2”. Does anyone think this would work ok?

I am also getting Fuel Wheels, a different one the "Crush"

. I am going up from a 17" to an 18" wheel. I am going to get the 20 offset(it's made in this style) as they don't make a 55 offset...it puts the wheel outward 1.38" and I think it will look nice and still be street legal. Check your local laws on tread coverage by flaps/fender. Note the hub sizes do not match I and strongly suggest you get hub centric rings. The hub on the Bronco is 93.1, check the bore hole size on the wheel you select and get an adapter. (the adapter for mine is a 93.1 / 106mm) You can find most of them on Amazon. My tires will also be 33". There are offset calculators on the net that will show a photo of old and new set up overlayed. Your local wheel specialist should also be a big help to you.

 

[DUSTYcazOREGON]

Here is the web page with the OFFSET Calculator: Wheel Offset Calculator (tiresize.com)

 

[DUSTYcazOREGON]

My question is with of the OBX stock wheels being 18x7.5 will the stock tires work OK on say an 18x9 aftermarket?

I am going with the 18X9 but I am getting bigger tires to match. I would consult with your local wheel and tire specialist though to see if it is safe to stretch a tire to a larger wheel as you suggest.

 

[DUSTYcazOREGON]

Maybe this thread won't get deleted/lost:

per tiresize.com wheel calculator.
Using what I can gather from the Stig shots of the wheels and assuming the Base wheel is the same Ranger wheel, which has been stated elswhere.

16 x 7 = 55mm offset = 6.17" Backspace (Base)
17&18 x 7.5 = 55mm = 6.42" backspace (BB, BD & OBX)
17 x 8 = 55mm offset = 6.67" backspace (Badlands)
17 x 8.5 = 30mm off = 5.93" backspace (Squatch)

D557 _ 17 x 8.5 _ 6mm offset = 4.99 bs
D557 _ 17 X 8.5 _ -6mm offset = 4.5 bs

Are those back-space numbers accurate and confirmed or a guess? If you change the off set and wheel size...does backspace still apply ? (I ask because the wheel calculator I used above did not utilize the backspace figure at all).

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Are those back-space numbers accurate and confirmed or a guess? If you change the off set and wheel size...does backspace still apply ? (I ask because the wheel calculator I used above did not utilize the backspace figure at all).

First thing... your math is off, or rather incomplete.
I used the same link you posted ...that you qouted!
Click on the tab that says "offset converter".
Enter wheel width and known offset (+ or -) and it will tell you the backspace.

The back spacing is directly related to the offset and wheel width.

It's just math....but the offset number is , in my opinion, a worthless Eurpoean concept.
My opinion --> Just tell me what the back spacing is so I know if the new wheel will hit my suspension/steering components! (my primary concern...I've seen wheel edges so close to steering knuckles that it would shear the edge mounted wheel weights off, had to use glue on's in the center. Luckily the calipers had clearence.)

9'" wheel with a +20 offset will have a backspacing of 5.79"

So, compared to Squatch, you increased the rim width by .5" (12.7mm or 6.35mm per side from center line) ...BUT moved the mounting face 10mm (.4") closer to the centerline/back side of rim in this case, which nets you a gain in clearance (less backspacing) of 3.65mm (.14")
So , if my math is correct Squatch backspacing 5.93" -.14" = 5.79"

Front side of rim will stick out .64" farther than a Squatch wheel.

...or maybe I completely guessed.

Compared to Black Diamond/OBX:
standard rim 7.5" 55mm offset = 6.42"bs
Increase rim width by 1.5" (38.1mm) or 19.5mm per side.
Move mounting face 35mm closer to c/l , you over shot the change in width so once again you'll gain the difference in clearance... by 15.5mm = .61"
6.42 - .61 = 5.81" new back space (pardon the .02" in conversion rounding errors)

On the front side(flare side), you'll gain 19.5 mm plus 35mm = 54.5mm or 2.14"
...so you're off on your measurement in post #18

Think of it this way.
Start with a 7.5 inch rim
increase the width on both sides of center by .75" (1.5" overall)
So already you pushed the wheel out towards the front by .75"
now move that mounting surface towards the backside by 1.38" (35mm) pushing the wheel out that much more.
.75" + 1.38" = 2.13" (again, excuse the .01 conversion/rounding error)

Here's another calculator that can give you a visual of both wheel tire combos at the same time.
Rim&tire size calculator

 

[HoosierDaddy]

My question is with of the OBX stock wheels being 18x7.5 will the stock tires work OK on say an 18x9 aftermarket?

Check with the tire manufacturer.
Best I can tell currently, NO!
8.5" suggested max rim width

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+A/T+RH-S&partnum=57SR8ATRHS&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

Not that you couldn't do it or find a tire shop to do it.

I wouldn't do it anyways, the rims would possibly stick out farther than the tires.
I put 33x12.5 on a 10" rim and wish I had bought 8's . Some folks like that look though.

 

[Kevin W]

Ok I’ll admit it, I am confused by all of the above. I’m just going to Sasquatch the base and be done. This way I know everything works, is warrantied and looks the way I want it.

 

[elmystico]

I decided to skip Sasquatch because it's a delay item and I am right on the edge of possibly making it into the MY21 allocations as a Day 2 reservation. Assuming I get a '21, I'd still like to go to 315s on 17x8.5s as a DIY Squatch on my Badlands. Hoping that the Icon wheels at 25mm offset, or maybe even the 30mm wheels Method is rumored to be releasing this summer, will be OK. Fuel Bajas are also great, but offset is only 20mm.

Dunno what will be best. I feel like it's a shot in the dark until the wheels and tires are actually on, and the bump stops/crash bars/whatever Ford puts on the factory Badlands are off.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

I decided to skip Sasquatch because it's a delay item and I am right on the edge of possibly making it into the MY21 allocations as a Day 2 reservation. Assuming I get a '21, I'd still like to go to 315s on 17x8.5s as a DIY Squatch on my Badlands. Hoping that the Icon wheels at 25mm offset, or maybe even the 30mm wheels Method is rumored to be releasing this summer, will be OK. Fuel Bajas are also great, but offset is only 20mm.

Dunno what will be best. I feel like it's a shot in the dark until the wheels and tires are actually on, and the bump stops/crash bars/whatever Ford puts on the factory Badlands are off.

Method has some now that SHOULD work. Here's my short list as compiled at 4wheelparts. I always use the 2021 Ranger as the selected vehicle, as it has a 55mm offset also...to start with. (see link contained in qoute below)

I keep forgetting to look at the bore size.... Not even sure what it is at this moment.

I spent a lot of time narrowing it down to Method, Icon & Raceline wheels that I like and should work (need to check that center bore now).
(EDIT: NO, the chrome isn't on my list, it just met the drill down specs, lol. But hey, you do you if you like them!)

4wp link

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Ok I’ll admit it, I am confused by all of the above. I’m just going to Sasquatch the base and be done. This way I know everything works, is warrantied and looks the way I want it.

That's your best bet.
I would Squatch also, but I refuse to wait any longer and the manual Squatch would force that even though I have an EARLY reservation.
Plus, I can achieve the same/similar look for far less...say 3 or 4K vs the 7 to 9K it would be now.

 

[elmystico]

Method has some now that SHOULD work. Here's my short list as compiled at 4wheelparts. I always use the 2021 Ranger as the selected vehicle, as it has a 55mm offset also...to start with. (see link contained in qoute below)

I took a look at 4WP and then looked at Method's site, and the results vary. Method says they don't offer a 703 with a 6x5.5 bolt pattern and a 35 offset, and I don't see the part number 4WP says it has. Not sure who's wrong or outdated there, but it's a reminder that our choices remain limited and/or blurry. I was all ready to buy now to avoid product shortages later the year. But now I don't want to roll the dice on $1300 in wheels until I know for sure what will/won't work. Six months from now, the forum will be filled with new threads on people modding actual Broncos.

 

[DUSTYcazOREGON]

First thing... your math is off, or rather incomplete.
I used the same link you posted ...that you qouted!
Click on the tab that says "offset converter".
Enter wheel width and known offset (+ or -) and it will tell you the backspace.

The back spacing is directly related to the offset and wheel width.

It's just math....but the offset number is , in my opinion, a worthless Eurpoean concept.
My opinion --> Just tell me what the back spacing is so I know if the new wheel will hit my suspension/steering components! (my primary concern...I've seen wheel edges so close to steering knuckles that it would shear the edge mounted wheel weights off, had to use glue on's in the center. Luckily the calipers had clearence.)

9'" wheel with a +20 offset will have a backspacing of 5.79"

So, compared to Squatch, you increased the rim width by .5" (12.7mm or 6.35mm per side from center line) ...BUT moved the mounting face 10mm (.4") closer to the centerline/back side of rim in this case, which nets you a gain in clearance (less backspacing) of 3.65mm (.14")
So , if my math is correct Squatch backspacing 5.93" -.14" = 5.79"

Front side of rim will stick out .64" farther than a Squatch wheel.

...or maybe I completely guessed.

Compared to Black Diamond/OBX:
standard rim 7.5" 55mm offset = 6.42"bs
Increase rim width by 1.5" (38.1mm) or 19.5mm per side.
Move mounting face 35mm closer to c/l , you over shot the change in width so once again you'll gain the difference in clearance... by 15.5mm = .61"
6.42 - .61 = 5.81" new back space (pardon the .02" in conversion rounding errors)

On the front side(flare side), you'll gain 19.5 mm plus 35mm = 54.5mm or 2.14"
...so you're off on your measurement in post #18

Think of it this way.
Start with a 7.5 inch rim
increase the width on both sides of center by .75" (1.5" overall)
So already you pushed the wheel out towards the front by .75"
now move that mounting surface towards the backside by 1.38" (35mm) pushing the wheel out that much more.
.75" + 1.38" = 2.13" (again, excuse the .01 conversion/rounding error)

Here's another calculator that can give you a visual of both wheel tire combos at the same time.
Rim&tire size calculator

OK...I get what you are saying. So if I went with my "plan"...basically the tire will be a little more outward by 2 inches per side. If I also then put on the Squatch fender flares....I would be legal on tread coverage. Do you see any mechanical issue in doing this? It would be easier if others made 55 Offset wheels....very few that I and others have found.
Thanks for your math and the links!!!!

 

[elmystico]

It would be easier if others made 55 Offset wheels....very few that I and others have found.

I think +30/+55 in the Bronco pattern and bore size is what Method is allegedly going to release later this year as we (theoretically) begin to get our new vehicles delivered. I sure hope they realize that they need to be ready with stock when we're all looking for aftermarket solutions.

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