Granger Ford Order Updates - We Need it 3/3/23

[Zach@Granger]

I've received some notes and messages from some of our outstanding reservation holders that they are holding off until the last minute on making changes. I can understand the thought process, but I would like to ask that all final changes/ammendments are made and sent to us by noon on 3-3-23. With over 300 outstanding reservations waiting to get their VINs assigned, we want to make sure this is a good experience for all our customers and eliminate something falling through the cracks. We will need a couple of days to get this all processed, so we'd kindly ask that all reservations are updated and final decisions are made by 3-3-23.

A couple other notes.

-I don't have solid information on reservation timestamp and/or priority code makes a difference. My best guess is that reservation timestamp matters, but I don't know this for certain. Just my best educated guess.

- I don't know the mix of orders most likely to get picked up. We have a mix of our orders, but we don't have a good window into the national numbers. I'm not sure how many people updated or changed their orders because they had the $2500 incentive. Our numbers changed slightly, but we're a small piece of the overall pie.

- The timing of delivery of these units should be June/July that they end up hitting our lot. We don't know for certain and there have been some production delays recently, so it wouldn't shock me if this gets pushed to July/August.

- PCOs - We have had a lot of issues with Private Cash offers not showing up properly or not being in the system at all when the customer rightly qualifies for them. We've started to proactively submit these PCOs to Ford so we can get this straightened out befor the Broncos hit the lot, but I don't have a solid timetable on how long it takes to resolve these issues yet, because this is a new process for us.

Thanks to everyone who's hung in their with us the last 3 years!

Zach

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[ameration]

Thanks for the updates Zach. I was “lucky” enough to get scheduled as I wasn’t willing to make changes after waiting this long. The week of April 3 can’t come quick enough!!!

 

[KirchTX]

I've received some notes and messages from some of our outstanding reservation holders that they are holding off until the last minute on making changes. I can understand the thought process, but I would like to ask that all final changes/ammendments are made and sent to us by noon on 3-3-23. With over 300 outstanding reservations waiting to get their VINs assigned, we want to make sure this is a good experience for all our customers and eliminate something falling through the cracks. We will need a couple of days to get this all processed, so we'd kindly ask that all reservations are updated and final decisions are made by 3-3-23.

A couple other notes.

-I don't have solid information on reservation timestamp and/or priority code makes a difference. My best guess is that reservation timestamp matters, but I don't know this for certain. Just my best educated guess.

- I don't know the mix of orders most likely to get picked up. We have a mix of our orders, but we don't have a good window into the national numbers. I'm not sure how many people updated or changed their orders because they had the $2500 incentive. Our numbers changed slightly, but we're a small piece of the overall pie.

- The timing of delivery of these units should be June/July that they end up hitting our lot. We don't know for certain and there have been some production delays recently, so it wouldn't shock me if this gets pushed to July/August.

- PCOs - We have had a lot of issues with Private Cash offers not showing up properly or not being in the system at all when the customer rightly qualifies for them. We've started to proactively submit these PCOs to Ford so we can get this straightened out befor the Broncos hit the lot, but I don't have a solid timetable on how long it takes to resolve these issues yet, because this is a new process for us.

Thanks to everyone who's hung in their with us the last 3 years!

Zach

Thanks Zach.

You said in the last thread on Feb 10, "We have over 300 units that should get scheduled this coming 30-45 days."

Are you still thinking that's likely? Is that made up of mostly non-constrained builds?

I know you can't say for sure, but there's a lot of us trying to read through the tea leaves on whether to hold steady. I actually don't mind waiting for Sas & Hardtop, but don't want to lose price protection either.

 

[mmorgan]

While @Zach@Granger did not get specific he did say "Our numbers changed slightly, but we're a small piece of the overall pie."

There has to be a significant number of Granger's customers waiting until the last moment. Zach would not be asking for a decision by 3/3 otherwise.

This leads me to think there has not been a significant move on the order holders part. We all appear prepared to play a game of "Who's brave enough?" .

 

[kojack19]

I flinched and changed my order. Did not want to play Detroit Roulette.

 

[Little Foot]

I've received some notes and messages from some of our outstanding reservation holders that they are holding off until the last minute on making changes. I can understand the thought process, but I would like to ask that all final changes/ammendments are made and sent to us by noon on 3-3-23. With over 300 outstanding reservations waiting to get their VINs assigned, we want to make sure this is a good experience for all our customers and eliminate something falling through the cracks. We will need a couple of days to get this all processed, so we'd kindly ask that all reservations are updated and final decisions are made by 3-3-23.

A couple other notes.

-I don't have solid information on reservation timestamp and/or priority code makes a difference. My best guess is that reservation timestamp matters, but I don't know this for certain. Just my best educated guess.

- I don't know the mix of orders most likely to get picked up. We have a mix of our orders, but we don't have a good window into the national numbers. I'm not sure how many people updated or changed their orders because they had the $2500 incentive. Our numbers changed slightly, but we're a small piece of the overall pie.

- The timing of delivery of these units should be June/July that they end up hitting our lot. We don't know for certain and there have been some production delays recently, so it wouldn't shock me if this gets pushed to July/August.

- PCOs - We have had a lot of issues with Private Cash offers not showing up properly or not being in the system at all when the customer rightly qualifies for them. We've started to proactively submit these PCOs to Ford so we can get this straightened out befor the Broncos hit the lot, but I don't have a solid timetable on how long it takes to resolve these issues yet, because this is a new process for us.

Thanks to everyone who's hung in their with us the last 3 years!

Zach

Zach,
You and your Team are amazing. I hope that Ford pulls thru and builds them all.

Thank you….

 

[hemiblas]

Thanks for all the effort!!

 

[Apples]

We all appear prepared to play a game of "whose brave enough" .

Or a game of build the Bronco I ordered or get fucked.

 

[Chrome_Pony]

I flinched and changed my order. Did not want to play Detroit Roulette.

I changed mine because the only thing in Lux that is worth a shit is the heated wheel. I've put a heated wheel in a truck that didn't have one before, and looks like I'll do it again, and this time, they're giving me 2500 reasons to do it.

 

[Zach@Granger]

Thanks Zach.

You said in the last thread on Feb 10, "We have over 300 units that should get scheduled this coming 30-45 days."

Are you still thinking that's likely? Is that made up of mostly non-constrained builds?

I know you can't say for sure, but there's a lot of us trying to read through the tea leaves on whether to hold steady. I actually don't mind waiting for Sas & Hardtop, but don't want to lose price protection either.

Yeah, we have a large amount that should still get scheduled. I'm not sure on the restraints piece of it though. Sorry I don't have a better answer.

 

[MLRey]

Thanks Zach,

I have a revised order waiting and ready to go if needed. Will we be receiving some kind of feedback by COB on March 2nd telling us whether or not our order was scheduled? So far I've not received any kind of emails from Ford about these private offers even though I've verified my email on the Ford account.

Thanks again,

 

[Cheshire]

Thanks Zach.

You said in the last thread on Feb 10, "We have over 300 units that should get scheduled this coming 30-45 days."

Are you still thinking that's likely? Is that made up of mostly non-constrained builds?

I know you can't say for sure, but there's a lot of us trying to read through the tea leaves on whether to hold steady. I actually don't mind waiting for Sas & Hardtop, but don't want to lose price protection either.

HOLD STEADY! - Reasons Why

1) Dropping constraints guarantees NOTHING - from Ford's Bronco Order Modification Private Offer FAQs " removing Molded-In Color Hardtop, Sasquatch Package, Lux Package or shifting from Wildtrak series will improve the likelihood of getting a Bronco in 2023 model year."

2) Customers who've dropped have gotten screwed - I read Granger order holder posts from January where people with Base Sasquatch, MIC who switched to different trims (BD, BL, etc) did NOT get scheduled January 26 when 112 Granger folks did. I called Samantha the day before my Base SAS MIC got scheduled to switch to Badlands, but luckily she said I was previewing and she couldn't change my order.

3) Many have already canceled or changed orders - Ford's incentive strategy has already been effective. I've read many posts of people that dropped constraints, bought off the lot w/$2500 discount or cancelled altogether. Every one of these instances is beneficial for those who do nothing!

4) Granger discount too valuable give up - Taking the $2500 discount to buy off the lot makes sense for folks with orders at a dealer who've agreed to sell at MSRP. If you can find a suitable vehicle, losing price protection is about offset by the $2500 offer and gets you a vehicle sooner. Granger folks with $1000 or $2000 below invoice lose $2-3k by buying off lot at a different dealer.

5) SAS & NON-SAS are completely different vehicles - Dropping the Sasquatch constraint buys you a totally different vehicle with less after market value. If you have the SAS constraint, settling for any trim w/o SAS is a big mistake (except maybe Badlands) and the $2500 you save will not offset the disappointment you feel every time you pass a SAS Bronco on the road.

6) Ford won't leave you hanging - Ford is serious about building ALL order holders in MY23! Price protection for early orders is worth close to $5000 after the latest price increases. Offering an extra $2500 on top of this to modify orders shows Ford means business. They won't make $$ on those Broncos! Ford easily has the capacity to build all orders by November and I cannot conceive of them leaving a few thousand people w/o a Bronco after 3 years. The PR hassle is bigger than just taking care of those customers.

7) You can always drop constraints AFTER March 7 - MY23 will get built well into the fall, so if you are really worried you'll be left out come July or so, you can drop constraints then. I think it will be apparent by then that holding stready was the right strategy.

8) Ford wants your sale! - Related to #6 and contrary to disgruntled folks that claim Ford doesn't care about us, Ford WANTS to sell all of us a Bronco. It's in Ford's interest to have a long list of reservations when order banks open back up. Building all orders will push new orders further out the schedule. This shows scarcity and demand, causing new customers to want the product more. Keeping the product hot also means not having orders holders who waited 3 years and got screwed posting all over the net how pissed they are.


Don't let FOMO cloud your judgement! Buy the Bronco you want and don't compromise.

 

[OmahaKevin]

HOLD STEADY! - Reasons Why

1) Dropping constraints guarantees NOTHING - from Ford's Bronco Order Modification Private Offer FAQs " removing Molded-In Color Hardtop, Sasquatch Package, Lux Package or shifting from Wildtrak series will improve the likelihood of getting a Bronco in 2023 model year."

2) Customers who've dropped have gotten screwed - I read Granger order holder posts from January where people with Base Sasquatch, MIC who switched to different trims (BD, BL, etc) did NOT get scheduled January 26 when 112 Granger folks did. I called Samantha the day before my Base SAS MIC got scheduled to switch to Badlands, but luckily she said I was previewing and she couldn't change my order.

3) Many have already canceled or changed orders - Ford's incentive strategy has already been effective. I've read many posts of people that dropped constraints, bought off the lot w/$2500 discount or cancelled altogether. Every one of these instances is beneficial for those who do nothing!

4) Granger discount too valuable give up - Taking the $2500 discount to buy off the lot makes sense for folks with orders at a dealer who've agreed to sell at MSRP. If you can find a suitable vehicle, losing price protection is about offset by the $2500 offer and gets you a vehicle sooner. Granger folks with $1000 or $2000 below invoice lose $2-3k by buying off lot at a different dealer.

5) SAS & NON-SAS are completely different vehicles - Dropping the Sasquatch constraint buys you a totally different vehicle with less after market value. If you have the SAS constraint, settling for any trim w/o SAS is a big mistake (except maybe Badlands) and the $2500 you save will not offset the disappointment you feel every time you pass a SAS Bronco on the road.

6) Ford won't leave you hanging - Ford is serious about building ALL order holders in MY23! Price protection for early orders is worth close to $5000 after the latest price increases. Offering an extra $2500 on top of this to modify orders shows Ford means business. They won't make $$ on those Broncos! Ford easily has the capacity to build all orders by November and I cannot conceive of them leaving a few thousand people w/o a Bronco after 3 years. The PR hassle is bigger than just taking care of those customers.

7) You can always drop constraints AFTER March 7 - MY23 will get built well into the fall, so if you are really worried you'll be left out come July or so, you can drop constraints then. I think it will be apparent by then that holding stready was the right strategy.

8) Ford wants your sale! - Related to #6 and contrary to disgruntled folks that claim Ford doesn't care about us, Ford WANTS to sell all of us a Bronco. It's in Ford's interest to have a long list of reservations when order banks open back up. Building all orders will push new orders further out the schedule. This shows scarcity and demand, causing new customers to want the product more. Keeping the product hot also means not having orders holders who waited 3 years and got screwed posting all over the net how pissed they are.


Don't let FOMO cloud your judgement! Buy the Bronco you want and don't compromise.

Hush! Let other people change

 

[Zach@Granger]

Thanks Zach,

I have a revised order waiting and ready to go if needed. Will we be receiving some kind of feedback by COB on March 2nd telling us whether or not our order was scheduled? So far I've not received any kind of emails from Ford about these private offers even though I've verified my email on the Ford account.

Thanks again,

I don't think we'll receiving scheduling information until a few weeks after the changes are made.

 

[KompressorV12]

HOLD STEADY! - Reasons Why

1) Dropping constraints guarantees NOTHING - from Ford's Bronco Order Modification Private Offer FAQs " removing Molded-In Color Hardtop, Sasquatch Package, Lux Package or shifting from Wildtrak series will improve the likelihood of getting a Bronco in 2023 model year."

2) Customers who've dropped have gotten screwed - I read Granger order holder posts from January where people with Base Sasquatch, MIC who switched to different trims (BD, BL, etc) did NOT get scheduled January 26 when 112 Granger folks did. I called Samantha the day before my Base SAS MIC got scheduled to switch to Badlands, but luckily she said I was previewing and she couldn't change my order.

3) Many have already canceled or changed orders - Ford's incentive strategy has already been effective. I've read many posts of people that dropped constraints, bought off the lot w/$2500 discount or cancelled altogether. Every one of these instances is beneficial for those who do nothing!

4) Granger discount too valuable give up - Taking the $2500 discount to buy off the lot makes sense for folks with orders at a dealer who've agreed to sell at MSRP. If you can find a suitable vehicle, losing price protection is about offset by the $2500 offer and gets you a vehicle sooner. Granger folks with $1000 or $2000 below invoice lose $2-3k by buying off lot at a different dealer.

5) SAS & NON-SAS are completely different vehicles - Dropping the Sasquatch constraint buys you a totally different vehicle with less after market value. If you have the SAS constraint, settling for any trim w/o SAS is a big mistake (except maybe Badlands) and the $2500 you save will not offset the disappointment you feel every time you pass a SAS Bronco on the road.

6) Ford won't leave you hanging - Ford is serious about building ALL order holders in MY23! Price protection for early orders is worth close to $5000 after the latest price increases. Offering an extra $2500 on top of this to modify orders shows Ford means business. They won't make $$ on those Broncos! Ford easily has the capacity to build all orders by November and I cannot conceive of them leaving a few thousand people w/o a Bronco after 3 years. The PR hassle is bigger than just taking care of those customers.

7) You can always drop constraints AFTER March 7 - MY23 will get built well into the fall, so if you are really worried you'll be left out come July or so, you can drop constraints then. I think it will be apparent by then that holding stready was the right strategy.

8) Ford wants your sale! - Related to #6 and contrary to disgruntled folks that claim Ford doesn't care about us, Ford WANTS to sell all of us a Bronco. It's in Ford's interest to have a long list of reservations when order banks open back up. Building all orders will push new orders further out the schedule. This shows scarcity and demand, causing new customers to want the product more. Keeping the product hot also means not having orders holders who waited 3 years and got screwed posting all over the net how pissed they are.


Don't let FOMO cloud your judgement! Buy the Bronco you want and don't compromise.

Half Agree with, but definitely not the "ford won't leave you hanging". I won't claim you're new here, but are you new here?! "The PR hassle is bigger than just taking care of those customers." What!!?! It's negligible if they are even neutral if they care, but the past 2 years action's they've shown they don't care at all lol. Now dangle an extra $5k per bronco by voiding PP that they could reclaim and show wall street . That's something Ford could get behind. lol

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