Has anyone seen what the new MIC roof looks like?

[Nite93]

Of course.

I tend to believe you. Is your source still the Webasto employee?

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[skyman]

No.

 

[MN_OuterBanks]

The retooled top is Molded in Color. It is and will be the only hardtop for 21 or 22.

 

[GoTigersGoBronco]

I don't think there will be a noticeable overall appearance. This a slight evolution, not a revolution.

 

[AustyPosty]

The only description by Ford has been that the top will be thicker to avoid the honeycomb/snakeskin look and that the seams will be closed.

the MIC top will be available again to unscheduled builds in 2022.

Can you even get a 2 door then? Since they don’t make a 2 door soft top...

 

[Bob 07064]

Can you even get a 2 door then? Since they don’t make a 2 door soft top...

If you have a vin for a 2dr you will get your roof built as per Ford.

 

[WuNgUn]

When did they say 8 weeks? In any case, why is it so hard to believe they'd be producing test roofs at this point? Do you think they're going to start testing them AFTER the dyes are all changed and things start running down the line?

8 weeks.... Yeah... October production? Still a long way to go before we have anything resembling a capable product I think. Sure, they're probably working hard at it... But if new tooling is required, as they say, this could be a big hold-up.

 

[WuNgUn]

Aren't we talking about two different MIC production plants?

• original Webasto plant with updated tooling
• new plant owned by somebody (??) with all new equipment

Sounds like there are some revised tops coming out of the original Webasto plant, plus the 'new' plant gets production equipment installed in September

Where the hell did you hear this? Lol OMG
This "new" plant.... Are you talking about whoever has the Modular/painted top contract?

 

[Bob 07064]

8 weeks.... Yeah... October production? Still a long way to go before we have anything resembling a capable product I think. Sure, they're probably working hard at it... But if new tooling is required, as they say, this could be a big hold-up.

I think the 8 weeks comes from the date of announcement (8/13) to when ford would let vin holders know what's up with they're build (octoberish) .
I would bet by the time ford made that announcement they were real close to a solution. This time they'll under promise and over deliver..

 

[Carolina Jim]

Where the hell did you hear this?

1 Rumor + 2 scotch rocks + insider leak = down the rabbit hole

"your mileage may vary"

 

[Sponticore]

Imagine the new top is bubble shaped for aerodynamics

 

[ATLColonial]

I think the 8 weeks comes from the date of announcement (8/13) to when ford would let vin holders know what's up with they're build (octoberish) .
I would bet by the time ford made that announcement they were real close to a solution. This time they'll under promise and over deliver..

They also said dirt lot people would be hearing in September (4-6 weeks after announcement) and FEs have been getting scheduled for last 2 weeks of September. Hoping for overdeliver scenario, but it's a waste of time to speculate and just gets people here all worked up when we do.

 

[mpeugeot]

So how many usable hard tops did they make today?

Can you imagine the absolute shit show it is to idle an entire factory production line for 8 weeks. I can't imagine why we haven't seen public terminations over this debacle.

Imagine a factory that makes (conservatively) 300 tops a day at a first year production cost of $250 each and a profit of the same (have no actual idea of true costs). Let's place plant/equipment being $150 per top for the first year and the rest being labor and components at $50 each.

With my pure fantasy numbers, Idling the plant doesn't kill the plant/equipment costs and causes a loss of $150 per missing top and $250 in lost profit per top. These numbers are totally fictional and not based on any hard facts, but just an example of how costly it could be to idle the plant for 48 production days (6 days x 8 weeks). That would be 2.16 million in costs and 3.6 million in lost profits (total loss of nearly 5.8 million dollars). That is not not even considering the losses associated with building of all the defective product, costs associated with building and replacing all the defective product! Ooof.

I have no idea what the real numbers are, but my imagination suggests that I am way underestimating the carnage.

 

[RHW]

I think the 8 weeks comes from the date of announcement (8/13) to when ford would let vin holders know what's up with they're build (octoberish) .
I would bet by the time ford made that announcement they were real close to a solution. This time they'll under promise and over deliver..

I "WANT" to believe this.. But i haven't seen a track record for it..

 

[Bronc-O]

8 weeks.... Yeah... October production? Still a long way to go before we have anything resembling a capable product I think. Sure, they're probably working hard at it... But if new tooling is required, as they say, this could be a big hold-up.

That makes me feel like we're right on top of things.

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