V8 has the same torque as the v6
Also I don't know how reliable this source is but:
"Market research showed demand wasn't there and the MT would have required significantly more engineering to support the 2.7s torque rating."
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Also I don't know how reliable this source is but:
"Market research showed demand wasn't there and the MT would have required significantly more engineering to support the 2.7s torque rating."
Exactly, 400 ft/lb with the crazy gear ratios they are offering would probably been a time bomb with warranty claims. Doesn't mean this swap won't be figured out pretty quick.
And? Isn’t that part of the point of the HALO models is to flex? Gt500 and gt350?
And I bet their market research was a bunch of college aged kids who drive a Prius and have never seen a stick. And will never buy a Bronco that isn’t full electric anyways. I’m hurt by this decision.
And on the wrangler enthusiast are the ones who buy the stick, and enthusiasts are the ones who make it appeal to a wider audience.
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You know I was a bit disappointed as well, would order the 2.7 with the MT in a 2 door as well, but after consideration, the 2.3 will be fine. I had the same thoughts when buying my 2019 F-150, and I decided on the 2.7 over the 3.5, there was plenty of power, which really surprised me. And I get 24mpg not towing, and sometimes 18-19 towing a trailer. 80% of the time, not towing, so good mileage, and no problem with power while towing anyway. I really like the 2.7 engine, but the 2.3 is fine. I've had good luck with I4 turbos, having several in 3 different audi's and it is almost the new universal power plant and ubiquitous across the industry. At least we'll have an extra 0.3 liters from the standard 2.0.
I woke up with the same thinking. Ill just lower my trim and get a manual 4cyl since it cant tow anyway.
Thanks for saving me money, Ford?
I too am devastated by the reveal confirming the 2.7 doesn’t get manual option. To me it is the ultimate fail to not give performance enthusiasts(those who row their own gears)the more powerful engine option.
I fully intended to mod the Bronco and I know what the 2.3 EB is capable of. Adding 100 hp and torque can be done relatively cheaply and I’ve done it with other 4cyl turbos with 2 Subaru’s I’ve owned over last 13 years. But the potential of the 2.7 is even better and it’s infuriating! No replacement for displacemen
Also noticed the colors are limited on the Base Bronco! No Area 51 or Cactus
I fully intended to mod the Bronco and I know what the 2.3 EB is capable of. Adding 100 hp and torque can be done relatively cheaply and I’ve done it with other 4cyl turbos with 2 Subaru’s I’ve owned over last 13 years. But the potential of the 2.7 is even better and it’s infuriating! No replacement for displacemen
Also noticed the colors are limited on the Base Bronco! No Area 51 or Cactus
My SAAB 9-5 had a 2.3 turbo and it was great. I am disappointed no FRONT DIG with the manual.
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Nothing wrong with a 2.3. It hauled my heavy SAAB 9-5 and blew almost everything away from 30-70 MPH.
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Ya'll know this isn't a Ford transmission right? yea ford should have sourced a HD truck trans because this is a halo vehicle! Or developed their own manual from scratch! sheesh....
Now imagine if they did the opposite, what if you could only have the manual with the TTV6? I bet the outcry would be twice as much! "Wheres my base model" "wheres my utilitarian option"
I get it, it would be cooler, we all want every option everywhere. But can we be a bit honest with ourselves here? Why do we need the 2.7 over the 2.3? well because power! We want to be able to accelerate quicker and clear mud better etc. Now why do we want the manual on the 2.7? so we can do any of those things a bit more slowly, and less impressively, say something more akin to a 2.3!
Now imagine if they did the opposite, what if you could only have the manual with the TTV6? I bet the outcry would be twice as much! "Wheres my base model" "wheres my utilitarian option"
I get it, it would be cooler, we all want every option everywhere. But can we be a bit honest with ourselves here? Why do we need the 2.7 over the 2.3? well because power! We want to be able to accelerate quicker and clear mud better etc. Now why do we want the manual on the 2.7? so we can do any of those things a bit more slowly, and less impressively, say something more akin to a 2.3!
I am thankful at this point they OFFER a manual. Yesterday I was disappointed. Today, I am happy.
Manual Black Diamond with Marine Vinyl and washout floor is calling my name. Now, I know FORD can offer me a GREEN bronco. I am mean another paint color doesn't cost any R&D, right?
Manual Black Diamond with Marine Vinyl and washout floor is calling my name. Now, I know FORD can offer me a GREEN bronco. I am mean another paint color doesn't cost any R&D, right?
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Went to bed last night disgusted i knew it was too good to be true. After thinking about all options i can drop my choice a few notches and get a base 2.3 stick sasquach . Its all going to depend on seeinGG one in person and driving a 2.3. Id rather have a big motor instead of something small all spun up.
Way to go you tide pod eaters for messing this all up.
Way to go you tide pod eaters for messing this all up.
Seriously, it isn't as bad as everyone thinks. A turbo 4-banger, especially a 2.3, is not a bad motor. It will have PLENTY of get up and go.
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