Perspective owner - Questions

[HalfmuleFarmer]

Hoss 3.0 suspension also available an option on the MY25 Badlands.

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[bassist]

Nope, you can't go fast but you need to be crawling at between 2-5mph. I'm not sure that I can shift it into 4Lo from a dead stop.

When I owned them, it was always “come to a stop, put it neutral, shift to low, shift to drive”

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

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[Gregory61]

With the Badlands, yeah, Swaybar Disco is just a button - but it will automatically reconnect itself over 20MPH. Some people get kind of annoyed with it.

It's 2 easy-to-get-at bolts if you do it manually, and there are other kits that extend the range and/or make it easier to disconnect. I just unbolt mine either before I head out, or when I get to the trail head, depending on how long the drive there is.

Yeah, one thing the Broncos don't lack is power. Even the lowly i4 2.3 does really very well in that department. They all beat out the v6 and 2.0 i4 from Jeep pretty easily. The 4xe will roughly match the 2.7, but only if the battery is charged and in use, and there's the 392, which it can go play with Raptors.

The engines generally being more powerful, and IFS vs solid front axle are the two biggest differences I've found between Jeep/Bronco -- besides not being able to flip down the windshield. IFS has it's pros and cons - it's great on the highway, not quite as good in the rocks.

A 24 Badlands has HOSS 3.0 Foxes I think - that was one of the MY24 upgrades. But a MY23 will just have Bilsteins.

Badlands will also already have all the skid plates - don't think a Wildtrak will come with them standard.

Foxes are on Wildtrak

 

[Gregory61]

been looking at Broncos, or as they say in my 4x4 club "thinking of going over to the dark side"

My current ride is a:

I'm pretty versed in off roading in a Jeep, however in the Bronco world I'm looking at 23 / 24 Wildtracks and Badlands (both Sasquatched). Seems to me that the major difference is Wildtracks = Hoss 3.0 and Badlands = Swaybar Disconnects. That is one of my questions. In my Jeep, I disconnect the swaybar , (when I remember to - because I just push the button). I'm pretty sure most of the places I go it isn't necessary but it may make things a little easier. That said, the Hoss 3.0 setup appears to be all the suspension I would need and appears more "heavy duty" the hoss 2.0 on the Badlands.

Any thoughts on this, and has anyone added Swaybar Quick disconnects to the wildtracks? Any additional information that maybe useful? One thing I noticed on the test drives is the Bronco is "head and shoulders" above the Jeep on the highway. The 2.7 is more responsive than the Jeep's 3.6 and it out handles and accelerates on the road. If anyone has experiences off roading the Bronco, I'd like to hear how the Bronco is on trails and in the desert (AZ & UTAH).

Thank you

UT/AZ: If you like deserty/baja activity,then Wildtrak. imo

 

[ncarter124]

I went to a Bronco Badlands with the 2.7 after owning 4 Jeeps and here are my thoughts.
I haven't had the Bronco off-road yet but I understand they are worse off-road, especially with the brittle tie-rods, but on-road they are far better. The power difference from the 3.6 to the 2.7 is pretty significant, however be ready for a serious build quality downgrade. My 2022 Gladiator Mojave was like a Lexus compared to my Badlands. I always knew Ford quality was horrible but... wow. Overall I have no regrets as I was bored with Jeeps, but like anything else in life, there are advantages and disadvantages to each.

 

[Spooled]

For where you live I'd go 2023+ Wildtrak and add skid plates and an aftermarket sta bar disconnect

If you want to order new, you can add the Fox suspension to the Badlands for 2025 and have yourself a WildLands

 

[JT58Bronc]

I love my 2022 Bronco Sas and it is awesome for light 4 wheeling, cruising down dirt roads. It is also awesome on the road driving- excellent handling, fun to drive and it accelerates well. For HD 4 wheeling I prefer the Jeeps due to the solid front axle. You can upgrade the Broncos a lot but in stock form I think the Jeep is more HD. So it depends on how much road versus off road time and if you want to spend $$$ upgrading the Bronco to perform better in rocks, etc.

 

[Mtnmn99]

I have owned WT and a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon for over twenty years. I use my trackbar on the Gladiator all the time, both in high the high and low ranges.

I just purchased my Bronco. My dealer did not have a Badlands, but they had several other Broncos, including the HOSS 2.0. I found all of them hands down more comfortable than my Jeep. I chose the WT because I liked the look, ride and power. I will use it for mild wheeling and will miss the swaybar.

If you plan to keep your Bronco Airly stock and use it to go off-road, you should go with the Badlane. It still rides better than the Jee P, and the ease of use of the Sway bars is essential, like the automated swaybar. Manually disconnecting a Swaybar is a PIA, in my opinion.

I am sure other suspensions are available if you ultimately decide that HOSS 2.0 is insufficient.

 

[Brian_B]

Foxes are on Wildtrak

Ah you are right - I was thinking of the steering rack; they didn’t get the coil overs

 

[rdg04578]

Coming from a 13 2 door Rubicon to the 24 Everglades that I have had since May. I have roughly 8000 miles on it with about 6K off road and on logging roads. As with the Rubicon I primarily use it off road-- things I have learned.

• Some of my experiences could be 2 door vs 4 door in the bronco—especially breakover angle. The single biggest thing for me that is the bronco rides the skid plates more than the jeep.
• Additionally, because of the rear trailing arms, there are many obstacles where the Bronco hits where the jeep never did. Additionally, there is some front end clearance loss with the IFS. The bottom of the jeep is flat—only the pumpkins to worry about--- where the Bronco has some Laundry hanging. I have learned to compensate knowing where the clearance issues are.
• The Everglades only has the 2.3 option—but that being said it has plenty of power but compared to the 2.6 in the wrangler there is not the same low end grunt—it likes more RPMs to get the power. I have the 2.7 in my F-150 and I am sure that would be much better.
• The lower 4:1 transfer case in the Rubicon is hands down better in low range crawl than the Bronco—Not to mention you actually have a shift lever—no worry about relying on electronics. The 4.7 gearing vs 4.11 in the jeep does not make up the difference
• The tie rods on the bronco are pretty whimpy but there are plenty of after market options.
• Don’t let anyone convince you that IFS is better off road then the good old straight axle. There is no comparison on axle articulation.
• The bronco is quite capable and has gone everywhere the Rubicon has—some cases it has worked hard—and in a few cases it has done better than the jeep.
• As for tires—the rubicon I ran 285X75X17 Maxxis Buckshot II mudders with a 2.5” JKS lift and the Bronco has 315X70X17 Cooper STT Max with the Sasquatch package. I never ran the stock junk tires on the Bronco so I can’t make a comparison there but I can tell you some of the difference between the 2 can be attributed to the skinny vs wide tire scenario.
• On road the bronco is hands down a better ride

 

[userdude]

Either is going to be fine. I have a BL and for a time wished I'd gone WT. Both are very good, the WT stock is better at high speed desert but softer in the rocks, the BL vice versa. I think you'd be happy either way, although I think you'd spend more after buying a WT if you're going off road (since you probably want plates, rock rails, maybe steel bumpers and disconnect hooked up to an aux switch).

 

[Brian_B]

Coming from a 13 2 door Rubicon to the 24 Everglades that I have had since May. I have roughly 8000 miles on it with about 6K off road and on logging roads. As with the Rubicon I primarily use it off road-- things I have learned

This is a great summary

 

[SierraBronco]

Bronco doesn’t mind doing a little wheeling here and there, just recognize that it might need different lines than the Wrangler and you’ll never get the articulation up front that you would with a solid axle. Dollar for dollar the jeep will be superior to the bronco for wheeling. I tell inquiring minds “for $50k in upgrayddes you too can make your bronco wheel as well as a stock rubicon on 35’s!”

But we will also do a week of level 8 trails with bonus features in sand hollow then drive 500 miles home with one finger at 85 mph.

 

[userdude]

Bronco doesn’t mind doing a little wheeling here and there, just recognize that it might need different lines than the Wrangler and you’ll never get the articulation up front that you would with a solid axle. Dollar for dollar the jeep will be superior to the bronco for wheeling. I tell inquiring minds “for $50k in upgrayddes you too can make your bronco wheel as well as a stock rubicon on 35’s!”

But we will also do a week of level 8 trails with bonus features in sand hollow then drive 500 miles home with one finger at 85 mph.

But but is everyone doing buggy lines??

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