The Mid-March Update from Granger Ford

[Hobgoblin]

Zach, rough ballpark figures, how many 2 door orders and hardtops proportionally would you say you have? We know that 2 doors by default have a MIC top. How about LUX and SAS? Thanks

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[Slyder]

Thanks for the update, Zach.

I'm surprise to see that I'm almost 100 spots higher than what Hunter told me in December. I have most of the constraints and I won't budge on them. (2 Dr, 2.7, Mic)

I submitted my final change to my order for the year, but I had a question and Hunter isn't in today (Monday).

My order is currently a Badlands without Sasquatch, but the change I asked Hunter to do was put Sasquatch back on to it.
Does adding Sasquatch back on to it, even though it already has the Advanced transfer case, flag it for removal of price protection? You can send your reply to private message so as not to derail the thread.

I wanted to swap back to Wildtrak because of Hoss 3.0, but I screwed up and didn't have him change my order before the 7th.

Oh well, maybe I'll be able do it when the '23 M.Y order banks open. Unless Ford goes and places restrictions and conditions that will remove price protection and not allow me too.

 

[Tonka1]

People are going to love their 2025 Broncos

If price protection is still a thing for us, it will be quite a deal.

 

[ryn0s3r1]

Hi Zack. I don't have a reservation or order with you but I do follow your informative posts. I have a couple of questions for you: 1) Why are reservations with higher reservation numbers (later timestamps) higher on your list than some with lower reservation numbers (earlier timestamps)?; 2) On orders you submit why won't you go any lower than Priority Code 19? Just curious.

 

[JakeC]

Your communications and transparency are quite admirable.

 

[Rebel Bronc]

Thanks for the update. So, not likely allocations go up since new orders were shut down on 3/8?

 

[Heffe66413]

Hey Zach- any good discounts if I order my 2029 replacement Bronco now. Lol

 

[DUSTYcazOREGON]

Hello Granger Gang!



We wanted to update you more regularly on some Frequently asked questions our team often receives in the hope to cut down on excessive emails and phone calls. If you still have any questions that were not addressed, the best way to contact us would be at [email protected]. We try to keep all communications through email so we have a paper trail we can both refer back to if necessary.

Granger’s FAQ​

What is Granger Motor’s Allocation?

On average, we have received approximately 10 Broncos per month scheduled and we expect this to continue for the remainder of the 2022 Model Year.



In an effort to improve our allocation, we have attempted to order additional Bronco Sports for our lot, opted into paying for displays and other Bronco swag from Ford, and anything else we could. We are hoping to see a positive change in our allocation for Model Year 2023.

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What is a status 19 or 99?

Your vehicle's status determines whether or not your Bronco will be scheduled by Ford. If you are at a status 99 your bronco will not be scheduled. If your bronco is at a status 19 it is available to be scheduled in Ford’s system. We will not put a lower status than a 19.

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Can I place a new order?

Unfortunately, at this time, I can not submit a new Bronco order. Ford has disabled this option as of 03/08/2022. I will be able to submit new orders once the order banks open for the 2023 model year.

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When do the Order banks open for Model Year 2023 Broncos?

The Order banks are scheduled to open sometime in Q4 of this year. Our best guess would be September or October. Once the order banks open, we will be reaching out to every customer asking for an updated 2023 build and price and other updated documentation we may need.

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Am I able to make edits to my order?

Yes! We are able to make edits to your order, however you are subject to the price increase that has recently been established for 22.5 Model Year Broncos. This is what Ford has relayed to our team,



“Changing the series, equipment package, number of doors, or 4x4 system after March 11, 2022 will cause a customer’s order to update with new mid-year price levels.”



Due to the overwhelming amount of order edits our team receives, we are asking that our customers only make one final change until the 2023 order banks open. If you would like to make your final change, We will need a build and price from Ford’s website in the form of a PDF.

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My Order hasn't moved up in the list for months, why is this?

It is more than likely that you have commodities on your build that Ford does not have the necessary parts for. We recommend that you consider taking off commodities that are slowing down your order.

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What are some commodities I can take off of my build to speed up the process?

Commodities are always changing, but to be safe these are the commodities we recommend removing from your build. Towing, Hardtop, 2 door, 2.7 engine, Modular Front Bumper, Sasquatch, and Lux Package.

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Can I convert my bronco order into a Bronco Everglades?

Yes! You can Convert your Bronco order into a Bronco Everglades. Due to the Everglades being a specialty vehicle however, this will take away your under invoice offer, remove your price protection, and be sold at MSRP.

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Can I convert my order into a Bronco Raptor?

No, all Bronco Raptor allocations have been preselected by Ford to selected early reservation holders. These Bronco Raptor orders have been confirmed with our team. We expect that early reservation holders next year will have the opportunity to order a Bronco Raptor if selected by Ford, but we have not received confirmation at this time.

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How does the Ford Price Protection Work?

Ford’s price protection has recently changed as of March 3rd 2022. Please read this carefully.

Per Ford:​

SUMMARY

This letter announces competitive pricing actions on 2022MY Bronco 2/4 Door SUV model vehicles. These price changes are currently live on the Ford.com Build and Price tool. They will go live on CONCEPTS and WBDO with the J2 order bank open on March 8, 2022.



DETAILS OF MID-YEAR PRICING ACTIONS

2022 model Ford retail price changes are listed below. Ford vehicle line Dealer Holdback, Dealer Discounts, and Ford vehicle's FDAF Contribution Amounts remain unchanged. New price lists are available on www.fmcdealer.com and prices will be available through CONCEPTS and WBDO on March 8, 2022.

Model​

21 to 22 Price Protection amount​

Mid Year Pricing​

Max Total Price Protection​

2 Door​

Base	$800​	$1,500​	$2,300​
Big Bend	$400​	$1,500​	$1,900​
Black Diamond	$975​	$1,500​	$2,475​
Outer Banks	$400​	$1,500​	$1,900​
Wildtrek	$800​	$2,000​	$2,800​
Badlands	$975​	$2,000​	$2,975​

4 Door​

Base	$250​	$1,250​	$1,500​
Big Bend	$250​	$1,250​	$1,500​
Black Diamond	$825​	$1,250​	$2,075​
Outer Banks	$250​	$1,250​	$1,500​
Wildtrek	$695​	$1,750​	$2,445​
Badlands	$825​	$1,750​	$2,575​

Group 1 Only​

Potentially available to Groups 2 & 3​

Group 1 Only​

PRICE LEVELS EFFECTIVE MARCH 11, 2022

2022-model Bronco PL220



Dealer Invoice changes will be effective March 11, 2022.



PRICE PROTECTION KEY MESSAGES

A subset of Bronco customers (group 1) is currently price protected and will not be subject to price increases. This group of customers is made up of customers who placed a reservation or an order prior to March 19, 2021. These customers qualify for the “total offer” column in the chart above.



Customers who are not price protected are made up of customers who placed an order without a reservation after March 19, 2021 (group 2) or customers who placed a reservation after March 19, 2021 (group 3). These groups (2&3) can only qualify for the “Mid Year J2 Pricing” column above if certain criteria are met. See below and attached for further detail about how this group of customers is potentially subject to pricing changes.



Group 1 – Customers who placed a reservation or an order prior to March 19, 2021

Qualify for private offer (Program 38406) to cover difference between 2021 and 2022 MY (’21 → ’22 J1 Price Protection Amount). These customers also qualify for the Ford retail order price protection process (Mid Year J2 Pricing).



Customer message: While these customers are price protected, encourage them to update their orders exactly as they want them as changes after March 11 will require a manual process to maintain price protection.

Dealer message: 2021 to 2022 (J1) pricing is loaded into Smart Vincent as a private offer amount paid directly to the customer (Program 38406). Adjustment from mid-year pricing (J2 to J1) is generated automatically and paid to the dealer’s payment statement after the dealer records the sale in smart Vincent (system will produce a price protected adjustment amount once it verifies that the customer who bought the vehicle matches the customer who placed the order). You can expect that payment 30-45 days after the sale.

If a customer wants to change their order after March 7, it will require a manual process.

Further details will be provided on this process at a later date.



Group 2 – Customers who placed an order without a reservation after March 19, 2021

Potentially qualify for the Ford retail order price protection process (Mid Year J2 Pricing).



Customer message: Ensure that orders are accurate and reflect current customer preferences as changes after March 11 could result in increased pricing for customers.



Dealer message: Consistent with Ford retail order price protection process, make sure customer orders are accurate, because changing series, equipment package, number of doors, or 4x4 system. after March 11, 2022 will cause orders to update with new mid-year price levels.

Assuming no changes are made after March 11, 2022; adjustment from J2 to J1 is generated automatically and paid to the dealer’s payment statement after the dealer records the sale in smart Vincent (system will produce a price protected adjustment amount once it verifies that the customer who bought the vehicle matches the customer who placed the order). You can expect that payment 30-45 days after the sale.



Group 3 – Customers who placed a reservation after March 19, 2021

Potentially qualify for the Ford retail order price protection process (Mid Year J2 Pricing).



Customer message: We’re pausing new retail orders of the 2022 model year Bronco after March7, 2022, and while there are no guarantees, make sure to convert your reservation to an order 2014 Template before then for the chance to get a 2022-model-year Bronco SUV. Placing an order before the March 7 cut-off will create a 22MY order at J1 pricing levels.



Dealer message: Consistent with Ford retail order price protection process, customers must convert their reservation to an order to have a chance for a 22MY. To receive J1 pricing, the customer must 1) convert to an order 2) take delivery of a ‘22MY Bronco and 3) not change their: series, equipment package, number of doors, or 4x4 system after March 11, 2022.

Assuming no changes are made after March 11, 2022; adjustment from J2 to J1 is generated automatically and paid to the dealer’s payment statement after the dealer records the sale in smart Vincent (system will produce a price protected adjustment amount once it verifies that the customer who bought the vehicle matches the customer who placed the order). You can expect that payment 30-45 days after the sale.



Ford’s Price Protection FAQS

What order change actions will affect pricing?

Changing your series, equipment package, number of doors, or 4x4 system after March 11, 2022 will cause your order to update with new mid-year price levels.



An example of a series change would be going from Badlands to Big Bend. An equipment package refers to base, mid, high, or lux package. A door change would mean going from a 4 door to 2 door and vice versa. A 4x4 system change reflects changing to or from the standard 4x4 system to the advanced 4x4 system.

End of Per Ford



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How much will adding HOSS 3.0 change my pricing?

Adding HOSS 3.0 to an existing Wildtrak order will add $2,515 MSRP. It is a simple feature and does not trigger a change in series, equipment package, number of doors, or 4x4 system.

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How does a customer switch to a Raptor or Everglades and still qualify for pricing protection?

J2 order banks will open March 8 after the cutoff. Because these are new series, they do not qualify for any price protection.

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What is a customer who is price protected (group 1) reimbursement amount based on?

A customer’s price protection amount is based on a similarly equipped vehicle, based on the selected series and door configuration they reserved or ordered as of October 1, 2021.

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What is the difference between the different dates in March?

The retail order bank is closing on March 8. We communicated to customers that the order bank was closing after the 7th to give some buffer time. While the order bank closes on the 8th for new orders, the new price amounts don’t take effect until March 11. This is again to give you time to deal with all requests that come in.

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Will the chip shortage affect my Bronco order?

It is likely that your order will be even further delayed by the chip shortages that our country is facing. Broncos that were scheduled in January have been delayed and we were not scheduled any Broncos in the month of February.

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Are there any alternatives to ordering a Bronco?

Yes! If the wait for a Bronco is too much, we are offering other under MSRP and Invoice specials. I have provided a few below.



Jeep Wrangler - 4% Under invoice (3-4 Months)

Jeep Gladiator - 4% Under invoice (3-4 Months)

Other Jeep Products - 3% Under Invoice (3-4 Months)

Bronco Sport - 6% Under invoice (3-4 Months)

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Will you be installing the front license plate bracket?

Absolutely not!

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Are you associated with any shipping companies?

We are not associated with any shipping companies. If you would like to ship your Bronco, you’ll have to coordinate with a shipping company and we will help facilitate once your shipper arrives.

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When should I book my flight?

Not until after your Bronco has arrived and you have been contacted by our finance department. We require two days with your Bronco in order to have the time we need for our service and detail departments to have the appropriate time they need.

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What is my place in line?

Below you can search for your reservation number and see what place in line you are on our active orders list. If you do not see your reservation number, your order is either a status 99 or you’re still in reservation status. I am unable to change this until the order banks open in Q4 of 2022.



Please remember that having constraints on your build puts you at risk of being skipped over and having a more viable build scheduled instead.



If you do not know your reservation number, you can find this on your reservation page where you reserved your bronco.

1​	10131080​
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Our team wanted to thank everyone for their patience and understanding during this difficult process. We understand how frustrating and disheartening this experience can be. Thank you for your continued support and we hope to continue working with you for years to come.



Thank you again,

Team Granger Motors

I wish FORD was as transparent with us as you are! Thanks

 

[Peppington]

Hey @Zach@Granger ! I am not part of the Granger fam, but had a curiosity question. It seems as though on your end you can still make changes to existing Bronco orders as of today. I’ve called my Dealership as well as Ford directly and they have both said they can’t make any major changes until the MY23 order banks open up. Is there a way around this that my dealer might not be aware of?

 

[Beach_Bum]

@Zach@Granger I understand why you omitted '99'd orders from the list. But can you summarize how many '99'd orders you have. It will help shed some perspective on the current list. Otherwise, I think there will be some unhappy order holders that think they moved up the list only to find themselves bumped down the list when the MY'23 order banks open and orders are updated.

 

[Slyder]

@Zach@Granger I understand why you omitted '99'd orders from the list. But can you summarize how many '99'd orders you have. It will help shed some perspective on the current list. Otherwise, I think there will be some unhappy order holders that think they moved up the list only to find themselves bumped down the list when the MY'23 order banks open and orders are updated.

I was thinking the 99'd orders were omitted, because I moved up almost 100 spots, where I was thinking it was closer to the 20 to 30 range.

 

[dingle87]

So 2 scenarios regarding price protection

1. If you have a reservation or order before 3/19/21 you are price protected in group 1 even if you make a change to your order today?

2. If you have a reservation before 3/19/21 but don't submit you order until lets say March 1st 2022 you are still in group 1 since your reservation was before 3/19/21 and change your order again today?

Are you second guessing yourself? LOL.

 

[ChompSticks]

Are you second guessing yourself? LOL.

Hahah I have no issues, but I just wanted to verify!

 

[Lurking4luv]

@Zach@Granger do you know what number you are up to on the list? How many have been delivered so far this year?

 

[Zach@Granger]

@Zach@Granger I understand why you omitted '99'd orders from the list. But can you summarize how many '99'd orders you have. It will help shed some perspective on the current list. Otherwise, I think there will be some unhappy order holders that think they moved up the list only to find themselves bumped down the list when the MY'23 order banks open and orders are updated.

I want to say we have 300ish 99 orders.

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