So whats needed for a 2.7 swap in my 2.3 and tricking it to work with my stick?I think part of the problem is that people are attempting to maintain some semblance of digital functionality with these swaps and it's essentially impossible unless you're a lead engineer at Ford. The other part is that you can't just drop a standalone crate engine into a Bronco and expect anything to work really, all the different modules are interconnected so you'd basically have to nuke it back to the stone age and aftermarket everything back. You can't even make the windows roll down or lights turn on without a module helping because the switches aren't analog anymore. The physical swap and getting clearance/angles right isn't really all that difficult, it's retaining any semblance of functionality with the rest of the vehicle after you do the swap.
Our best bet for a realistic swap is if someone figured out how to either trick the electronics into thinking that a 3.0L is a 2.7L or that it's supposed to have a 3.0L via Forscan/FDRS and a raptor VIN, similar to how people are doing 3.0 steering rack conversions. I don't think that would be feasible with a completely different engine like a Coyote. Would love to see it happen with a 3.5L, but I think that would fall into the same category as the Coyote.
Not bad with no Ford direct support (assuming). Imagine if Ford sponsored someone like Roush to do the swap. Hard to believe there would be no buyers. And once done by Roush, others could follow fairly easily, me thinks.It took them 18 months to program.
You gotta figure there are people Hemi/LS/LT swapping their wranglers and gladiators as we speak, why wouldn't we have similar here?Not bad with no Ford direct support (assuming). Imagine if Ford sponsored someone like Roush to do the swap. Hard to believe there would be no buyers. And once done by Roush, others could follow fairly easily, me thinks.
I know that cracking the factory code is not an easy task, but now these guys can simply copy and paste the modified code every time they do an engine swap. They don't have to spend 18 months on each truck.It took them 18 months to program.
I know that cracking the factory code is not an easy task, but now these guys can simply copy and paste the modified code every time they do an engine swap. They don't have to spend 18 months on each truck.
Same trans as the Mustang GT.I would worry about the trans more than the chassis.
Same trans as the Mustang GT.
White Rock Dodge does in house Hemi swaps on Wranglers/Gladiators and incorporates the swap into the financing and covers it under warranty.You gotta figure there are people Hemi/LS/LT swapping their wranglers and gladiators as we speak, why wouldn't we have similar here?
Fords really dropping the ball
I don't know why Ford is not willing to assist car tuning companies with such modifications. IMO that would be a win-win collaboration. FoMoCo would continue to make the Bronco with the EcoBoost engines, their CAFE rating would not be affected, but at the same time they would make some money on selling the Coyote swap tune and crate engines, and people like me would get an opportunity to install a V8 and have one more reason to love the Bronco and Ford in general.
White Rock Dodge does in house Hemi swaps on Wranglers/Gladiators and incorporates the swap into the financing and covers it under warranty.
Don’t think we aren’t working on it. Unlike others that have tried installing the drivetrain and then making it work, we’ve been carefully looking at the electronic side. Maybe it’ll happen, maybe it won’t. The thing I’m worried about the most is that there isn’t actually a market for it. It’s one thing to say you want it, but it’s another thing to drop $38k on a turnkey conversion. We do have a pretty solid plan on making it happens though, and it could be before the end of the year. Maybe…
The other posters were talking about the Jeep conversions and I knew you did them from watching your YT. But still......Don’t think we aren’t working on it. Unlike others that have tried installing the drivetrain and then making it work, we’ve been carefully looking at the electronic side. Maybe it’ll happen, maybe it won’t. The thing I’m worried about the most is that there isn’t actually a market for it. It’s one thing to say you want it, but it’s another thing to drop $38k on a turnkey conversion. We do have a pretty solid plan on making it happens though, and it could be before the end of the year. Maybe…