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EDIT: Moved everything to the first page including all videos and parts lists. As of 15 August, 2024, all links have been updated and are working. Ping me if you see any that do not.

I just completed changing the fluid in the front axle, transfer case, and rear axle and added a Ford Performance cover on the rear axle at the same time. I changed all 3 at 2500 miles, the Bronco now has 5000 miles on it, so another 2500 mile run on all three.

I did not find anything unexpected and overall, it was a smooth process--that anyone can do. I am not a professional videographer and so the rear axle has a few videos, but by the time I made it to the transfer case, I had figured it out. Apologies for the multiple videos, bad angles, and having to listen to my voice.

A side note about synthetic gear oil. There have been more misconceptions posted about synthetic oil which includes gear oil than ever should have been. From how they will cause leaks where none existed, to they will delay or prevent mechanical break-in, to they do not protect as well as conventional oils. None of that is true.

From at least 1999 through at least 2014 Ford specified 75W-140 synthetic gear oil in their rear axles. From the mid-1990’s until the mid-2010’s many OEMs specified synthetic engine oil and from the mid-2010’s until now nearly all do. If synthetic oil had any of the properties noted above, we would hear of the issues they allegedly create by the tens of thousands especially with the internet amplification that happens today.

In short, synthetic oil (in any form) will not prevent or delay break-in nor cause any issues in modern applications. There is also nothing that a conventional oil can do that a synthetic cannot do better—unless you have a pre-1980 engine, then the requirements for additives such as ZDDP are not in synthetics, but those are in the minority and certainly do not apply to a 6G Bronco.

I am happy to answer any questions.

This funnel is a lifesaver - https://www.amazon.com/Hopkins-10106B-FloTool-Filler-Refill/dp/B000EH4UXM



Front Axle Video and Parts -



- Amsoil 75W-110 fluid (about 1.2 QTs) - https://www.amsoil.com/p/severe-gear-75w-110-svt/?code=SVTQT-EA

- Permatex 59214 High Temperature Thread Sealant (https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-59214-Temperature-Thread-Sealant/dp/B0002UEOP0)

- I chose 75W-110 because it is the upper viscosity that 75W-90 used to be before the SAE J306 table was updated in 2005 AND because the from axle capacity is so small. I also had it in my stash--I will switch to 75W-140 when it runs out.

For information, the J306 table defines the kinetic viscosity ranges (cSt @ 100°C) that a particular viscosity gear oil must meet in order to be labeled as that viscosity. In 2005, the 75W-90 viscosity range was split into two ranges. The lower range became 75W-90 and the upper range became 75W-110.


Transfer Case Video and Parts-



- Motorcraft Mercon LV fluid (about 1.8QTs) - https://www.amazon.com/Ford-XT-10-QLVC-Oil-Automatic/dp/B07ZTRVLX9

- Permatex 59214 High Temperature Thread Sealant (https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-59214-Temperature-Thread-Sealant/dp/B0002UEOP0)

- I chose Motorcraft Mercon LV versus Amsoil, Red Line, Royal Purple, etc. because there is no combustion by products, the temperatures are nominal, and Motorcraft is cost effective. From my viewpoint, changing standard Motorcraft Mercon LV more often is better than running a premium synthetic longer.


Rear Axle Parts:

- Ford OEM gasket (it is reusable unless damaged) part number is KB3Z 4036 A

- Amsoil 75W-140 fluid (about 2 QTs) - https://www.amsoil.com/p/severe-gear-75w-140-svo/?code=SVOQT-EA

- PTFE Megatape (Gray) - https://www.amazon.com/HERC-15100-1-2X1000-MEGATAPE/dp/B00LO49TV2

- I chose 75W-140 because Dana recommends it for the M220 axle (they also recommend it for the M210 front axle). Any 75W-140 off the shelf (Castrol, Mobil, or Valvoline, etc.) will also work if you do not want to order Amsoil.

- The bolt thread depth in the axle housing is 23mm. If using the OEM rubber and steel gasket with the Ford Performance cover, then you need M8 bolts that are at least 25mm long—if purchasing new ones, then consider 30MM. IMHO, the supplied bolts with the cover are 20mm and they will be too short for the OEM gasket.

Will the supplied bolts work? Yes. They will grab enough thread to tighten and not leak. Are they optimum? No. Because the face of the axle housing threaded bosses is back chamfered, you are not grabbing much thread despite what is protruding from the cover. Also, consider the parent material is cast iron—if you snag the cover on a drop off, you will wish you had more thread engagement into the housing versus what the supplied 20MM bolts gives.

It should also be noted that I have not found a single source for the fiber composition gaskets which are supplied with the Ford Performance cover. The only gaskets currently in the marketplace for a 12 bolt Advantek axle cover is OEM—either from Ford or Jeep (the Rubicon uses the same rear axle). All other Dana 44 gaskets are for the older generation which is a 10 bolt design.


Video 1 - Tools and Parts -





Video 2 - General Discussion About Cover/Brake Line Clips & Prying on Cover -





Video 3 - Initial Drain -




Video 4 - Inspection and Cavity Discussion -





Scott towel showing metal from cavity:


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Video 5 - Cover Installed and New Brake Clamps -





Video 6 - OEM Brake Clip Construction
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Rear Cover Hardware (NEW longer flange bolts are needed if using OEM gasket because it is thicker. They are not needed if using the supplied gasket with the Ford cover--use the supplied bolts that come with the cover--I would still consider replacing them with longer bolts considering the minimal thread engagement):



10 Each - Flange Bolts: M8x1.25x25mm long. These are yellow zinc coated to prevent rust—https://belmetric.com/jis-flange-bolt-10-9-coarse-m8x1-25-12mm-wrench/?sku=BF8X25YLW

2 Each - Brake Line Studs: M8x1.25x75mm long. These are black oxide and can rust. A bit of paint or grease can prevent corrosion—https://belmetric.com/m8-double-end-stud-class-10-9-hardened-steel/?sku=SH8X75DBLK

4 Each - Stud Washers. These are extra thick and are yellow zinc coated to prevent rust— https://belmetric.com/fender-washer-hv350-steel-quenched-tempered/?sku=WFEHV8X23YLW

4 Each - Stud Cover and Inner Side Brake Line Clamp Flange Nuts (one goes against the cover and one goes on the inside of brake line clamp)— https://belmetric.com/tall-collar-nut-flange-class-10-steel-din-6331/?sku=NFFH8TALLYLW

2 each - Rear Brake Line Clamps. I believe I used the 3/8", if not then 1/2". You have to drill the holes out to 8MM because they are 1/4" out of the box. Take the rubber off the clamp before attempting to drill. I used a small vise and drill press to drill them out using a few different drill bit to move up slowly— https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07V2YBDS5

2 Each - Stud Outer Side Brake Line Clamp Flange Nuts (these tighten the brake line clamp on the outside— https://belmetric.com/flange-nut-smooth-class-10-steel-din-6923/?sku=NFFH8X13YLW

Magnetic Drain Plugs:

3 Each (if replacing all to be the same) - Low-Pressure 316 Stainless Steel Plug with Hex Drive, Hollow with Magnet, 1/2 Pipe Size https://www.mcmaster.com/1457N14

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Wow, thanks for the reminder! I somehow just passed 20k miles in 10 months and this stuff has been on my mind since I bought it and still haven’t done any, I’m scared now haha. My manual trans fluid was shockingly brown and metallic similar to your transfer case after only 700 miles. Geez
 

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I’ve done the transmission and rear axle around 25k. Transfer and front in the coming month or so.

I know we spoke in other threads, but what did you ended up filling with?
 
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I’ve done the transmission and rear axle around 25k. Transfer and front in the coming month or so.

I know we spoke in other threads, but what did you ended up filling with?
How hard was the transmission? Since it is both pressurized and has a filter, I'll probably wait a while on it.

I went with Motorcraft Mercon LV in the transfer case. I picked up 6 QTs pretty cheap and will change it a few more times before letting it go for a while.

Amsoil Severe Gear in the axles. I have quite a bit left over from other trucks I've had.
 

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Did you use 80w90 in the front diff and 75w85 in the rear like it specifies in the service manual? I just replaced the front fluid due to the notorious leaking pinion seal, but thought it was odd the front fluid spec was different than the rear. Also states the capacity for the m210 is 26.2oz which was nowhere near draining out the fill port...
 

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Did you use 80w90 in the front diff and 75w85 in the rear like it specifies in the service manual? I just replaced the front fluid due to the notorious leaking pinion seal, but thought it was odd the front fluid spec was different than the rear. Also states the capacity for the m210 is 26.2oz which was nowhere near draining out the fill port...
Nope. 75W-110 in the front for the reason you stated...less than 1QT capacity.

75W-140 in the rear based upon my experience with Dana 44 Advantek axles and Dana's recommendation vs. Ford's.
 

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Nope. 75W-110 in the front for the reason you stated...less than 1QT capacity.

75W-140 in the rear based upon my experience with Dana 44 Advantek axles and Dana's recommendation vs. Ford's.
Interesting they spec the heavier weight. Wonder now if Jeep has the same spec as Ford or Dana in their Advantek axles. I don't think the fluid weight is the reason for the pinion seals failing, but may be worth looking into...
 

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How hard was the transmission? Since it is both pressurized and has a filter, I'll probably wait a while on it.
I have the manual transmission on the Bronco. Drain and fill was easy.

But, I’m about to put the PPE aluminum pan & new filter on our Ranger (30k). Lots of reported issues with that 10R80 transmission. Many reports of it under filled too.
 
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I have the manual transmission on the Bronco. Drain and fill was easy.

But, I’m about to put the PPE aluminum pan & new filter on our Ranger (30k). Lots of reported issues with that 10R80 transmission. Many reports of it under filled too.
Does that PPE pan use a Ford filter or their proprietary version (I have not seen the internals of a 10R80 so I am assuming it is pan mounted)? I bought one for my Wrangler and sold it because it was only a PPE filter that fit it.
 

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Does that PPE pan use a Ford filter or their proprietary version (I have not seen the internals of a 10R80 so I am assuming it is pan mounted)? I bought one for my Wrangler and sold it because it was only a PPE filter that fit it.
Uses the OEM ford filter. They have a shallow (holds about 1 extra quart) or deep which holds something like 2.5 extra quarts.
 

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Does that PPE pan use a Ford filter or their proprietary version (I have not seen the internals of a 10R80 so I am assuming it is pan mounted)? I bought one for my Wrangler and sold it because it was only a PPE filter that fit it.
10R60/10R80 the filter is bolted to the valve body. Pan won’t affect the filter at all so a factory filter can be used
 
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Well...I'll be grabbing one in the future to replace mine when I change the fluid/filter. The drain plug makes it easy to do a dump and fill.

Now they need to make one for the 2.7L and get rid of the idiotic plastic pan there.
 
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I'm about to break 12k and one year of ownership so its time for me to cover this.

I have a Badlands with a 7MT, what do I use? It sounds like 75W-110 front and 75W-140 rear, but I want something warranty friendly
 
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I'm about to break 12k and one year of ownership so its time for me to cover this.

I have a Badlands with a 7MT, what do I use? It sounds like 75W-110 front and 75W-140 rear, but I want something warranty friendly
It would be the Motorcraft stuff and while I get the warranty part, Ford would have to prove the oil caused a failure which...it won't.
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