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They have a shock swap program for the F150 Raptors, but they don’t currently offer it for the bronco raptor where you can have them ship you already rebuilt shocks and then you ship yours back after replacement. That really cuts down time and some shops are not excited about having your truck immobilized, waiting for the shocks to be tuned and returned.. hopefully they’ll offer that soon as our trucks are coming into the shock maintenance cycle
building on @Tatonka 1 reply…. if you can’t drive to their shop, TSW typically has a 3 to 4 day turnaround on your shocks, not including shipping there and shipping back..
They have a shock swap program for the F150 Raptors, but they don’t currently offer it for the bronco raptor where you can have them ship you already rebuilt shocks and then you ship yours back after replacement. That really cuts down time and some shops are not excited about having your truck immobilized, waiting for the shocks to be tuned and returned.. hopefully they’ll offer that soon as our trucks are coming into the shock maintenance cycle
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great to see how you are using your brap. When you say whoops, what kind of whoops are you talking about as there are a lot of different depth of whoops? Are you full cycling the suspension up and down? When I was on a raptor run, I could not keep up with the trucks in the deep whoops that was fully cycling the suspension (part of it is wheelbase) but it was definitely dicey pushing over 35 mph and I have a good amount of confidence in pushing the braptor.So for what it's worth, the stock suspension does great in whoops well above 35mph. I have videos of doing just this at Sand Hollow and Johnson Valley earlier this year. However, you catch some issues as it takes a beating. My skid plate had to be hammered out twice. At 25k miles my shocks were smoked. TSW rebuilt and revolved my shocks while adding Hyper 2/1 springs and I will testing them in Moab next week. Truthfully, I haven't heard anything good or bad with Foutz but I have been advised to stay away. My plan is to add rear bump stops and leave it alone.
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Well they all vary from shallow and choppy to deeper and more spread out. The ones in areas of Johnson Valley were more manageable than some of the ones in Hurricane, UT. The thing with whoops is timing and speed. Honestly, not making a joke but the faster you go the better it feels and picking your line are the most important items. However, I will be the first to tell you that I lawn darted my bash plate hard a couple of times and g'ed out and blew a fender off. It happens.... I have since made improvements and I can't wait to see how they affect performance. I am not trying to self promote but below are instagram reels that you can see what the braptor can handle.
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Thanks for sharing these. For me I may just have to bite the bullet and go full APG pro runner suspension setup.
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I’m at 42k with probably 10+k off-road. Running 2/1” Hyperco springs, FMI no-lift top hats. Planning to have TSW service and tune (Bravo) my shocks and add SDI e-clik in June. Doing e-clik to tweak the shock algorithm especially between loaded and unloaded scenarios.
I’m looking forward to hearing your impressions from Moab on the tune.
Did you opt for the Alpha, Bravo or custom tune by TSW? What is driving your decision on the rear bumps?
Hey John, I am not running E-click... yet. I am running their custom valving/shim set. Their recommendation was for rears. I had been considering running front and rears and was advised against it. What I have seen so far on others rigs are the aftermarket UCA bearings don't hold up. Front suspension chatters or sounds like a pocket full of change. I am hoping the Bronco Raptor aftermarket catches up as its popularity has increased for LCA's soon as the factory ones aren't rebuildable. The Fox shocks are really really good and I hope we can continue to build off of that.
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Im confused as to why they are saying something like Foutz UCA are not a good idea, neither are front and rear bump stops (say Foutz). Is that merely because of the noise associated with spherical bearings, or is there an actual performance reason? rubber bushings aren't going to be better than a spherical bearing in a performance oriented situation. I don't buy that the factory live valve alone (even if revalved) is better than an engineered full kit. If that was the case why would anyone with a Raptor ditch live valves and go with a full SVC mid travel kit, or why would anyone do an APG pro runner suspension setup? Maybe Im missing something in terms of wants from the setup?
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I don't want to give any bad information or misspeak for anyone. I would call and ask. I think a lot of the issue is none of these products have really been tested. I know of show rigs but no actual usage. Very limited in options for parts in that category.
Yeah thats the real issue actual testing, but on new rigs thats always an issue. I don't like being a guinea pig so I wait it out and do the upgrades once.
My biggest concern getting rid of stock shocks would be the on road performance hits. Although I can't prove it, I strongly suspect the factory setup adjusts damping for the common conditions such as brake dive and body roll. The stock setup on road is just golden. So much better than my 4Runner TRD pro in both brake dive and body roll. All without a rear sway bar!
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