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Ok, a few things vs your Taco and the scraping:

1. You are NOT on 35s. 315 70r17 = 34.4" tall.
2. Your Wildtrak weighs 1000 lbs more stock vs a 2012 stock Tacoma single cab 4x4.
3. The Bronco has a 4 link rear with a panhard bar, vs stock leaf springs in the Taco. The lower control arm mounts on the Bronco are low and drag, a lot.
4. The Bronco does have a lower belly vs like a JKU/JLU. Better center of gravity but you lose breakover.
5. "Rubbin is racin", scraping means you're doing fun stuff.
6. Remember, you are on stock suspension (I didn't see a suspension upgrade in your thread, sorry if I missed it). A 1.5"-2" lift , some 1" wheel spacers, and some 37s and you will be a LOT happier about going over big rocks.
7. Get you some sway bar disconnects, GIANT difference.

Also, get some fender flare deletes, the stock flares are a liability when it comes to keeping your fenders straight.
So both trucks are on metric 35's. The bronco being the 31570r17 which like you said is 34.4" and the Tacoma on 315/75r16 which is 34.6" so in reality tire wise it's .2" taller on the Tacoma, aka negligible. I would hardly call the Bronco stock since it's a Wildtrak with the Fox shocks that add roughly 1.5" over stock it is lifted to a degree.

I have been wheeling this Tacoma a long time. I was running trails I shouldn't have been on on 32's and no lift. I would equate the amount of contact I had when I wheeled the Tacoma on 32's with a 2" lift. Lots of bashing and smashing but the one thing the Tacoma did was still be able to work through whatever. (and was only rear locked) For the Bronco I am constantly needing to re choose the line or double lock or both. Most of the time when the Bronco hangs it HANGS. Aka full on anchor mode.

From my 32's and lift days:

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I absolutely do plan on getting anti-rocks for the front to get a bit more flex and since I am adding a decent amount of weight with gear I plan on getting some heavier springs that bring me back up again. Where I go beyond that suspension wise is a toss up. If I can get a little more lift without fucking up the fox valving I'll try it, but my priority has always been keeping the ride comfortable.

The reality is the Bronco is the offroad adventure vehicle and the Tacoma is the beater wheeler. Can I jump to 37's to not smash as much? Sure. Is it necessary for the type of wheeling the Bronco will see? Probably not. Trust me when I got home I was already planning what mods I needed/wanted for 37's. But then I remembered what the purpose of this truck is and talked myself down again. Fenders will likely always stay too to keep the mud and shit down. I hate how much the width of the tires outside the fenders on the tacoma and no flares does.

Exactly. Comparing a heavily modified Taco to a stock Bronco (tires and suspension) isn't exactly a fair comparison.
I wouldn't call the comparison that far fetched mostly because I wouldn't call a Wildtrak a stock Bronco. It's lifted from the factory roughly 1.5" due to the fox suspension. It's on metric 35's. It just has WAY more shit that hangs lower. I actually did a comparison of the two that showed some height differences in another post, which I guess I never posted here.

Original post was here:

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/underwhelming-offroad-experience.102633/post-2362036

I think the first thing I noticed between my IFS first gen Tacoma that I put on 35's and the Bronco is the decreased ground clearance. Especially the link mounts and the crossmember in the center of the bronco. The IFS skid in the center hangs down quite a bit lower too.

I started typing this post with memory of what hangs lower but I figured it would be easier to have a quantifiable comparison since I can easily go outside and measure both for comparison.

My Tacoma is what I call my "IFS Crawler" and is sitting on roughly 1-2" of lift via ADS shocks, Dakars with AAL, and 315/75r16 Cooper ST Maxx tires. Clearance wise nothing additional has been done besides raising the gas tank above the frame which clearly helps from a side profile but it's definitely not the only reason the Tacoma clears things much better.

The Bronco is a mostly stock Wildtrak (So SAS package with more lift with the Fox shocks) with the only addition of shock skids and the hidden winch up front. Regardless of the hidden winch, the stock IFS skid that covers the front diff is lower.

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Rear diff measurement

Tacoma:

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Bronco:

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IFS skid measurement

Tacoma:

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Bronco:

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Other misc low points that the Bronco as that the Tacoma either doesn't have or clearly is better at

Gas tank:

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Center X brace:

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And finally frame height comparisons

Tacoma:

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Bronco:

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So the overall takeaway I observed is the Bronco has MUCH more things hanging down at roughly 9-11" off the ground while the Tacoma only really has the front IFS skid and the rear diff (with better numbers) Of course there are other things to take into account like breakover, wheelbase, etc. The nearly 6" frame height difference is wild to see too.

BUT the Bronco is basically stock from the factory and my Tacoma has been heavily modified over the years to even fit 35's (tubbing the firewall is so much fun :curse:), add lockers, regear etc.

So while clearance wise it can definitely be underwhelming it also lets me get almost double the range due to fuel efficiency and larger tank, is much more comfortable on long drives (creature comforts, drivability wise the Tacoma is absolutely great on the highway), and can actually fit the whole family.
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Really great writeup on the differences. The pics of the rear-end and how low all of the suspension link mounts hang as well as the front end, seeing how much higher the lower control arms are on the Taco vs the WT (with the suspension),...

I wasn't trying to be condescending to you at any level, I just wanted to give more context to your observations for the other people that read this. You went way above and beyond in your response, and thank you for that.

The Bronco does have a much lower center of gravity, which is SUPER helpful in the desert when you're going fast over rough dirt roads. It also help not rolling over if you have to swerve around something at highway speeds.

I do get a bit defensive to criticism about the Bronco and rock crawling. With some adjustments, it does really well. It does of course have it's limitations, and you do have to be a bit more choosy with lines, but overall, I go anywhere a daily driver JLU or JKU on 37s goes.
 
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Really great writeup on the differences. The pics of the rear-end and how low all of the suspension link mounts hang as well as the front end, seeing how much higher the lower control arms are on the Taco vs the WT (with the suspension),...

I wasn't trying to be condescending to you at any level, I just wanted to give more context to your observations for the other people that read this. You went way above and beyond in your response, and thank you for that.

The Bronco does have a much lower center of gravity, which is SUPER helpful in the desert when you're going fast over rough dirt roads. It also help not rolling over if you have to swerve around something at highway speeds.

I do get a bit defensive to criticism about the Bronco and rock crawling. With some adjustments, it does really well. It does of course have it's limitations, and you do have to be a bit more choosy with lines, but overall, I go anywhere a daily driver JLU or JKU on 37s goes.
Trust me I get that. I am defensive over IFS on the Tacoma for the same reason when all my buddies try to push me to SAS. It does everything I need it to do very reliably so why change what works?

But I agree the low COG has been really enjoyable when hammering the Bronco in the pines. It always feels super stable at speed which is why I also want to keep a front sway like antirrock vs going to disconnects. Have you welded on any supports for the cam tabs yet? I got some since I bent up mine even from the couple trips in the rocks and I want to address them before they get super fucked.
 

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Trust me I get that. I am defensive over IFS on the Tacoma for the same reason when all my buddies try to push me to SAS. It does everything I need it to do very reliably so why change what works?

But I agree the low COG has been really enjoyable when hammering the Bronco in the pines. It always feels super stable at speed which is why I also want to keep a front sway like antirrock vs going to disconnects. Have you welded on any supports for the cam tabs yet? I got some since I bent up mine even from the couple trips in the rocks and I want to address them before they get super fucked.
I really need to spend some time and reinforce several things... My poor rear coilovers especially, they get drug over everything.
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Thinking about how I would modify those lower mounts I ran across the thread below. I will probably just do that modification and box the bottom in a bit. I have adjustable coilovers (Eibach 2.0) so I can just run them to a shorter setting and have the same ride height and 2 inches of extra clearance on those lower mounts.

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Been a while since I updated here. I finally got onboard water and fuel, mostly for races. I got the new waterport overlander setup and mounted it to the pack rax. It's great for decent pressure on demand for cooking and stuff.

Also did the rock slide engineering ex rack for the 2 gallon rotopax. I got sick of bumming gas at races that don't have gas stops so this solved that problem.

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Took the fam on a trip to North Jersey to check out a reservoir that is abnormally low and a bridge that is usually under water:

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The awning has def been one of my favorite mods.

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Then did a race in PA in September.

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I was stoked to see 4 people could be under the awning pretty comfortably in mild rain.

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Also took my kiddo to cut some trail for my clubs enduro.

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Overall I have been super happy with this rig.
 
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Not much happening with the truck besides just using it. Took the wife out to learn line choices and what not and then I took this fun line down.



Then impulse bought this aluminum rack from ebay. I originally wanted the 4x4 Colorado rack because it was aluminum but they went out of business. This was legit the same design, not sure if they made the racks for them or this company copied the design.

But for $245 shipped and at 22 lbs I am happy with it.

I also got the cheapest tailgate reinforcement on the market more for peace of mind than anything. Eventually the rear bumper will be replaced with one from expedition one where the tire weight is no longer supported by the door.

I wanted to work in a warm garage to do the install but realized I have never pulled back into the garage with the new rack/awning setup.

Had my wife spot me lol.

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Turns out if I air down to 7 psi I can clear.

After installing I looked at multiple options for relocating the 3rd brake light. The most economical solution for now was to just reuse what I have and bolt it to the rack with an extension harness so that's what I did. Eventually I plan on running this multi function light on the rack when it's released:



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I only recently started using Duetsch connectors on my projects and damn I am never going back. So simple and clean solutions.

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This rack will serve 2 main purposes, carry both firewood and the chainsaw on camping trips. We usually cut wood or scavenge deadfall on the trail and it will be nice not shoving the nasty mess in the truck or smell the chainsaw.

Next was a super simple mod I wanted when I installed the winch but couldn't remember where the hell I put my spare lights. Of course I found them like 2 months later but haven't had time to do this till now.

I wanted a light in the hidden winch area so I can see the drum better. I can access the clutch by feel mostly but it's also nice having some visibility too.

I was annoyed I had to pull the whole bumper to access the skid bolts but whatever.

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The light is ip67 rated and mounted to the skid with magnets.

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It gets power only when I activate the isolator that powers the winch so it's automatically on when in use and automatically off during normal use.

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Talk about having to grease it to make it fit into the garage! If I install any lift I'm in trouble. That reminded me of loading an H-53 helo in the back of a C-17. TIGHT!

I am dealing with utilizing the roof rack on my BL Sas and will be getting a 270 awning eventually.

The questions I have are:

- What are you using to mount and secure your trax boards to the top?
- Do you have info on the relays and switches for the rear lift lighting? (that setup is perfect and should be OEM)
- What is your go to camp whiskey and cigar combo? (usually take Buf Trc and an AVO with me on trips)
- What are you currently doing with the Taco? (Mine is parked awaiting new shoes.....lonely)
 
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Talk about having to grease it to make it fit into the garage! If I install any lift I'm in trouble. That reminded me of loading an H-53 helo in the back of a C-17. TIGHT!

I am dealing with utilizing the roof rack on my BL Sas and will be getting a 270 awning eventually.

The questions I have are:

- What are you using to mount and secure your trax boards to the top?
- Do you have info on the relays and switches for the rear lift lighting? (that setup is perfect and should be OEM)
- What is your go to camp whiskey and cigar combo? (usually take Buf Trc and an AVO with me on trips)
- What are you currently doing with the Taco? (Mine is parked awaiting new shoes.....lonely)
Ha yeah the uprights on the awning mounts are going to get chopped and repowdercoated since they are my limiting factor. Once those are chopped down to size I can get in without airing down but 37's will 100% tough to make work in the garage.

For the switches and rear window lighting/led strip on the roof I am running no relays since led draw is so low.

This post kinda explains most of what I used:
https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/im-a-horse-definitely-not-a-build.81431/page-4#post-2314764

Power comes from the 4d tech harness and switch back light power is coming from the plug and play IAG module.

As far as camping combo I am pretty simple, rough rider sweets are my go to for any situation and whatever whiskey I am a fan of at the time. I am partial to most ryes but I have been hunting store pick barrel proofs lately.

This one opened up so nicely and was a banger.

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The taco got some love semi recently, took it out and got after it on some local trails.




Been trying to save some dough to get a bender so I can get the back rack finished and get it reupholstered by a shop since the current soft top is hanging on by some threads literally.

Also have some other shit ready that I haven't had time to fuck with including a 5th gear swap, a crawl box/triple stick install/add delete. A lot of which involves cutting big holes in the cab which if I do that I want to also do tint/sound deadening/ mass loaded vinyl. It always escalates. 😅
 

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Ha yeah the uprights on the awning mounts are going to get chopped and repowdercoated since they are my limiting factor. Once those are chopped down to size I can get in without airing down but 37's will 100% tough to make work in the garage.

For the switches and rear window lighting/led strip on the roof I am running no relays since led draw is so low.

This post kinda explains most of what I used:
https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/im-a-horse-definitely-not-a-build.81431/page-4#post-2314764

Power comes from the 4d tech harness and switch back light power is coming from the plug and play IAG module.

As far as camping combo I am pretty simple, rough rider sweets are my go to for any situation and whatever whiskey I am a fan of at the time. I am partial to most ryes but I have been hunting store pick barrel proofs lately.

This one opened up so nicely and was a banger.

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The taco got some love semi recently, took it out and got after it on some local trails.




Been trying to save some dough to get a bender so I can get the back rack finished and get it reupholstered by a shop since the current soft top is hanging on by some threads literally.

Also have some other shit ready that I haven't had time to fuck with including a 5th gear swap, a crawl box/triple stick install/add delete. A lot of which involves cutting big holes in the cab which if I do that I want to also do tint/sound deadening/ mass loaded vinyl. It always escalates. 😅

Thanks for the lighting links, I WILL be doing that after the thaw out. Its STUPID cold!

I have 2 of the 1 inch level kits, so I will be installing on the front and upper rear. I hope that I will be riiiiiight inside the space available to get in and out of the house garage without airing down. Lol

The Larceny is a good one, it def has a rye flavor as a "wheated whiskey". Good story behind that as well.
If you want something different, look for Makers Mark, Bourbon World, Private Selection.
It is a 10 stave bourbon that uses 5 different types of wood stave to flavor. Varies from location and distribution. I've tried 4 different ones, and they are all amazing.
My favorite Ryes are the Angel Envy Rye, James and Pepper 1776, and the High West Rendezvous Rye. Got to be careful, they sip until they swig, and then you have had A LOT.

Glad to see the 1G Taco out running like a beast! Mine is still on 33s and 32s back and forth. Just now finishing up the 33/10.5/15 BFG KO2s, and switching to yoko geo G003 MT in a 32/11.5/15. I have a set of Thunderer Ranger RT in a metric 33 on the stock rims. They are a good all around shoe, especially in the winter. I swap out back and forth for the seasons. I just don't have the ability to go over the 33 anytime soon.
It has the stock 4.11 gears and isn't overly lifted/modified, but set up very capable for most anything. With the help of a hammer, think the 35s would fit the front. hehehe
For an 02 quad-cab, and almost 300K miles, it is doing as good as it should. Sadly, don't think I have had to use the winch ever??? Either that is a good thing or I'm not trying hard enough. LOL

Sounds like you are definitely riding from one project to the next, but it appears you are prepared/equipped for the "escalation". I've got to quit focusing so much on the 24 so I can do the body work and refurb on the 86! There is this summer, that I hope to get it knocked out and back on the road/trail. I started that build in 1991 and had it as a DD for decades until 2012. It was this last year I found the rust in the rear bed pan and one rear fender. It was from inside out.....made me sad. It sat in rain and snow with bad seals in the back for too many years. The dang thing has been rust free until just recently. Too much salt in the clay mud in Oklahoma, from all the oil wells I suppose.

Please continue to share with us all your progress and developments, and those family adventures. I will start to document ours better as well. Looking forward to heading back to Stanton KY and hitting more of the DBBB this summer! Maybe we will try for another trip to the Rockies......who knows.
 
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Thanks for the lighting links, I WILL be doing that after the thaw out. Its STUPID cold!

I have 2 of the 1 inch level kits, so I will be installing on the front and upper rear. I hope that I will be riiiiiight inside the space available to get in and out of the house garage without airing down. Lol

The Larceny is a good one, it def has a rye flavor as a "wheated whiskey". Good story behind that as well.
If you want something different, look for Makers Mark, Bourbon World, Private Selection.
It is a 10 stave bourbon that uses 5 different types of wood stave to flavor. Varies from location and distribution. I've tried 4 different ones, and they are all amazing.
My favorite Ryes are the Angel Envy Rye, James and Pepper 1776, and the High West Rendezvous Rye. Got to be careful, they sip until they swig, and then you have had A LOT.

Glad to see the 1G Taco out running like a beast! Mine is still on 33s and 32s back and forth. Just now finishing up the 33/10.5/15 BFG KO2s, and switching to yoko geo G003 MT in a 32/11.5/15. I have a set of Thunderer Ranger RT in a metric 33 on the stock rims. They are a good all around shoe, especially in the winter. I swap out back and forth for the seasons. I just don't have the ability to go over the 33 anytime soon.
It has the stock 4.11 gears and isn't overly lifted/modified, but set up very capable for most anything. With the help of a hammer, think the 35s would fit the front. hehehe
For an 02 quad-cab, and almost 300K miles, it is doing as good as it should. Sadly, don't think I have had to use the winch ever??? Either that is a good thing or I'm not trying hard enough. LOL

Sounds like you are definitely riding from one project to the next, but it appears you are prepared/equipped for the "escalation". I've got to quit focusing so much on the 24 so I can do the body work and refurb on the 86! There is this summer, that I hope to get it knocked out and back on the road/trail. I started that build in 1991 and had it as a DD for decades until 2012. It was this last year I found the rust in the rear bed pan and one rear fender. It was from inside out.....made me sad. It sat in rain and snow with bad seals in the back for too many years. The dang thing has been rust free until just recently. Too much salt in the clay mud in Oklahoma, from all the oil wells I suppose.

Please continue to share with us all your progress and developments, and those family adventures. I will start to document ours better as well. Looking forward to heading back to Stanton KY and hitting more of the DBBB this summer! Maybe we will try for another trip to the Rockies......who knows.
What parts of the DBBB did you end up doing? I am actually heading there in June with my son to do the whole thing + a day at Hollerwood offroad park.

Been a while since I updated this thread. Played in the snow in NJ:

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Went up to Jay Peak in VT for a snowboard trip in March. Camped in the truck on night one and then tried to get to my buddy's property for night 2 and failed so we slept in the driveway basically lol.

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Basically the one home owner gets the driveway plowed to his house and since the rest of the properties are unfinished they just ride the snowmobiles over the big snow mound. It was like driveway > 4-5 ft mound that was about a truck length long and untouched 2 ft of snow on the other side. Getting up and over was pretty easy, going anywhere after without winching all night was another story. We decided we were cold, tired and just wanted to chill.

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Overall it was a fun quick trip to the Canadian border.
 
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Not long after I got back we did a trip to Ringing Rocks State Park in PA and hit some of the water crossings I knew of nearby.

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Did a local NJ trip:




Forgive the commentator/videographer... that was his first wheeling trip ever. :crackup:

Got to try out my Adventure Mate V3 I got on a kick starter and I really like it. Shovel, axe, saw and hook in one. No more carrying an axe and shovel seperately.

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So many update catch ups.

Got a RTT and mounted it.

Originally had it mounted like this but had NASTY whistling.

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Temp solution was tape till I could get rubber weather stripping, but then when hit with a side wind there was wild noises.

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So for now I put the tent back and the maxtrax up front.

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Much better now but get some added wind noise. I might try to hit up send cut send to make me a taller wind fairing for the trailrax rack. @TrailRax you ever have anyone ask for a taller fairing?

I also needed to hack the fuck up my 270 awning corner support to get the tent to fit this way, the plan is to take it to my buddy who has a spool gun/argon setup for a custom gusseted bracket for my use case. It will attach on the rack in 2 points and on the tent on one. The awning is currently mounted directly to the tent so just making a connection that supports and connects both.

Took it for a shake down trip with my son to a campground with friends and it worked great.

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Camping again next week for a ride and camp situation with my buddies for my bday, def was nice having more space and sleeping off the ground but not inside the truck ha.
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