Finding the most comfortable tires on road

[T800]

OP stated they have HOSS 3.0 - which are the same Fox from a Wildtrak. I had heard they were tuned fairly linearly as well.

I'm just puzzled why the OEM Fox would seem too rough. Have others complained of this? I'd also make sure all are working optimally and not damaged. Could also be an option to see if Ford will replace them under warranty.

One option, if they're rebuildable: Might be able to send them to a shock tuner like Altech. I had the Fox res shocks on my Jeep tuned by them and they ride great.

Though shocks are like shoes, very personal. You could consider trying a set of the OEM Bilsteins. Otherwise, aftermarket if you don't like how they ride.

I still doubt this is the tires, but curious what the OP reports back. If getting tires, load C would be the softest and best for wheeling.

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[23OBX2.7]

Could be bad dampers. Had two sets of bad Koni actives on Mustang that were promptly warrantied did not even have to send old ones back.

Bilstein were trash after one year zero warranty but they did send me a package of several sizes decals incl 14" ones three years later lol ..regifted to a member here.

 

[Faišal leo]

Hi guys thanks for all your suggestions
I changed my tiers
from 315/70/17 Goodyear RT load range C to 285/70/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S 117T SL 30-31 psi
And I could feel no difference in the smoothness and the ride quality which is very disappointing
So I concluded that the problem is with the shocks
I heard that the Hoss 3.0 Fox is soft at higher speeds and stiff at lower speeds which is the opposite of what I want for a daily drive and goeo for a long road trip, so I need something soft and smooth
Any suggestions for soft daily drive shocks/ suspension or if I could soften mine

 

[ducksface]

Drop your tire pressure.
(Recommeding tires is like saying:
Only marry redheads).
If the tire wasn't viable and didn't have a following... it wouldn't exist.

 

[Faišal leo]

Drop your tire pressure.
(Recommeding tires is like saying:
Only marry redheads).
If the tire wasn't viable and didn't have a following... it wouldn't exist.

Lower than 30 psi ?

 

[ducksface]

Lower than 30 psi ?

If needed.
My zr2 blazer runs falken at4 at 23psi. Before these it was mtrK at 21psi.
It is all but identical in wheelbase width length and height to my stroppe.
I think my little blazer might weigh 5200lbs loaded(I dont remember).

My 3/4 truck runs those falkens at 32psi. My neighbor runs his 3/4 ton at 90psi.

I'm running 30psi in my stroppe.
I would try lower but I'm ok with the ride for now.

Here's the bottom line;
You all hate the engineer who caused the recall,
But
Some of you think the junior league, third string, cube dwelling tire psi spec guy, who answers to the ford legal department that answers to the tire company legal department... is somehow a minor, but indisputable, God of all that's right.

Tire longevity is a hobby not a neccesity.

 

[Champale]

Hi guys thanks for all your suggestions
I changed my tiers
from 315/70/17 Goodyear RT load range C to 285/70/17 Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S 117T SL 30-31 psi
And I could feel no difference in the smoothness and the ride quality which is very disappointing
So I concluded that the problem is with the shocks
I heard that the Hoss 3.0 Fox is soft at higher speeds and stiff at lower speeds which is the opposite of what I want for a daily drive and goeo for a long road trip, so I need something soft and smooth
Any suggestions for soft daily drive shocks/ suspension or if I could soften mine

I had a 2024 Wildtrak with the Hoss 3.0 Fox shocks. I always felt like it was a little stiff at lower speeds but very well-damped at higher speeds. That setup is made for higher speed desert-type running. In fact, I think the overall ride was better than my new BRaptor, where Sport has a little too much rebound damping and Normal doesn't have enough.

I will say this: no one ever complained about the ride on the Wildtrak, at any time ever. And I frequently drove co-workers to lunch, of both genders, from 22 years old to nearly 70. I put C Load K02s on it and ran about 34psi.

OP - maybe have someone else drive it and see what they think. Maybe you do have a blown shock.

 

[T800]

If needed.
My zr2 blazer runs falken at4(3?) at 23psi.
It is all but identical in wheelbase width length and height to my stroppe.
I think my little blazer might weigh 5200lbs loaded(I dont remember).

My 3/4 truck runs those falkens at 32psi. My neighbor runs his 3/4 ton at 90psi.

I'm running 30psi in my stroppe.
I would try lower but I'm ok with the ride for now.

Here's the bottom line;
You all hate the engineer who caused the recall,
But
Some of you think the junior league, third string, cube dwelling tire psi spec guy, who answers to the ford legal department that answers to the tire company legal department... is somehow a minor, but indisputable, God of all that's right.

Tire longevity is a hobby not a neccesity.

23psi is way too low. You're going to get uneven tire wear. That doesn't sound like it's the problem.

If using the OEM tires, you should be close to what it says on the door sticker. I have OEM SAS tires and the sticker says 39psi. I have them around 37, which is close. 23 would be closer to half of what is recommended. When in doubt, do a chalk test.

Though for the OP, I'm thinking the shocks might be damaged, as I said above. If still under warranty, I'd take it in for service. If not under warranty, then sounds like you might want different shocks. Or if they are rebuildable, you could send them to a shock tuner.

 

[ducksface]

23psi is way too low. You're going to get uneven tire wear. That doesn't sound like it's the problem.

If using the OEM tires, you should be close to what it says on the door sticker. I have OEM SAS tires and the sticker says 39psi. I have them around 37, which is close. 23 would be closer to half of what is recommended. When in doubt, do a chalk test.

Chalk says I can go to 21 on the blazer easily. 15psi and they're still flat on the road.
I've had the blazer for 20 years.
My mtrk tires timed out (me, not them) with 15 years on them. While doing fine, it was silly to run them any longer. I hadn't realized they had become 15 years old.
My tire pressures aren't short term experiments.

Tire longevity is a hobby for those who like that hobby.
I don't care much. Few, very few, folks will buy a third set of bronco tires due to tread wear.

The Michelins prior on the 3/4ton showed no abnormal wear in 50,000 miles. They timed out (me, not them)at 12 years old.

I run my motorhome at 60 front 55 rear when others run 75/80 and bitch about the tooth jarring ride.

Too much lack of personal research and too much sales brochure/legal stuff believed...is not for me.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

Chalk says I can go to 21 on the blazer easily. 15psi and they're still flat on the road.
I've had the blazer for 20 years.
My mtrk tires timed out (me, not them) with 15 years on them. While doing fine, it was silly to run them any longer. I hadn't realized they had become 15 years old.
My tire pressures aren't short term experiments.

Tire longevity is a hobby for those who like that hobby.
I don't care much. Few, very few, folks will buy a third set of bronco tires due to tread wear.

The Michelins prior on the 3/4ton showed no abnormal wear in 50,000 miles. They timed out (me, not them)at 12 years old.

I run my motorhome at 60 front 55 rear when others run 75/80 and bitch about the tooth jarring ride.

Too much lack of personal research and too much sales brochure/legal stuff believed...is not for me.

Are you on here joking? Running 21psi on road? Dude, please leave. Handling would be all over the place and braking would suffer a ton.

OP is already running pressure that is too low for the street. Heck, the Bronco even suggests street pressure of 39psi, although I find that just a tad high. I tend to do between 35 and 37, but on a highway trip go up to 39-40, but I have an air compressor under the hood so I can toy with tire pressure all day long.

Off-road on moderate trails I tend to go down to 20-22psi and on more sharp rocky stuff I drop down to 15 or so. No way I’d go in the 20s on the street, that’s just ruining a good set of tires.

I’m about to put on a new set and going with MT Baja Boss, E staying in 35s, in those thick beasts likely will go with 35psi to start. Then play with it from there.

 

[crenca]

OP is already running pressure that is too low for the street. Heck, the Bronco even suggests street pressure of 39psi, although I find that just a tad high. I tend to do between 35 and 37, but on a highway trip go up to 39-40

Ford suggests 39 because it helps their fleet average mileage and gives the perception that they're concerned about safety. in other words it's not about anything truly in the consumer's interest.

many of us run 32 to 34 regularly. I've been running 28 for about the last month just as an experiment and I like it, and that's with average interstate speeds around here between 80 and 85. That's with Mickey Thompson EXP's or whatever the lettering is, a D rated tire.

many in my local club who drive lower weight older Wranglers maintain something between 18 and 22 on the street on their E-rated Mickey Thompson's or whatever. they admit they push it up to mid twenties for highway driving.

I air out to about 36 when I'm road tripping to Moab or whatever, as the bronco is a 2 and 3/4 ton vehicle in wheeling trim/weight.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

Ford suggests 39 because it helps their fleet average mileage and gives the perception that they're concerned about safety. in other words it's not about anything truly in the consumer's interest.

many of us run 32 to 34 regularly. I've been running 28 for about the last month just as an experiment and I like it, and that's with average interstate speeds around here between 80 and 85. That's with Mickey Thompson EXP's or whatever the lettering is, a D rated tire.

many in my local club who drive lower weight older Wranglers maintain something between 18 and 22 on the street on their E-rated Mickey Thompson's or whatever. they admit they push it up to mid twenties for highway driving.

I air out to about 36 when I'm road tripping to Moab or whatever, as the bronco is a 2 and 3/4 ton vehicle in wheeling trim/weight.

Not educating me man, I’m not new here, not new to this, not new to off-roading.

From even my sports car days or for any knowledge of driving dynamics, you run a higher psi for stability at speed. Save the conspiracy theories for the Twitter.

Street pressure on a 5K lb vehicle with the size brakes the Bronco has dictates at the OEM tire size what the psi should be. It’s called engineering, not politics, or whatever you think you‘re saying here.

Anyway, I also said I don’t run 39 unless on a road trip, meaning highway, where stability on these 35s is actually important. I can also control my own pressure since i have an ARB Twin onboard.

Stiffer tire, you can run lower psi and only if you wish in effort to adjust to comfort, but running an extreme low psi is only killing your tires and your handling. Add any weight and you’re dangerous.

I’ve done track driving, have track training and over 25 years of track, off-road, and the training to go along with it.

One thing none of you are going to lecture me on are tires. My issue is the spreading of bad info and in this case, actual dangerous info to guys who may not know any better and take internet gibberish as gospel; well, it isn’t.

 

[ducksface]

Bronco:55% to 56% of their empty curb weight over the front axle and 44% to 45% over the rear axle.
(I'm unsure of the truth of this)
But
Do we adjust tire pressure for this and a 250lb driver being 5% of vehicle weight?

Why not?

 

[crenca]

Not educating me man, I’m not new here, not new to this, not new to off-roading.

From even my sports car days or for any knowledge of driving dynamics, you run a higher psi for stability at speed. Save the conspiracy theories for the Twitter.

Street pressure on a 5K lb vehicle with the size brakes the Bronco has dictates at the OEM tire size what the psi should be. It’s called engineering, not politics, or whatever you think you‘re saying here.

Anyway, I also said I don’t run 39 unless on a road trip, meaning highway, where stability on these 35s is actually important. I can also control my own pressure since i have an ARB Twin onboard.

Stiffer tire, you can run lower psi and only if you wish in effort to adjust to comfort, but running an extreme low psi is only killing your tires and your handling. Add any weight and you’re dangerous.

I’ve done track driving, have track training and over 25 years of track, off-road, and the training to go along with it.

One thing none of you are going to lecture me on are tires. My issue is the spreading of bad info and in this case, actual dangerous info to guys who may not know any better and take internet gibberish as gospel; well, it isn’t.

Having a bad day?

39, short of something extreme (at or over GVWR, etc.) is pure politics.

You overreacted (again)....

 

[23OBX2.7]

I run 275/70-18 E 31 on 4 door 2.7 OBX with no accessories weight on Hoss2. It's firmer than the Hitachi's that may be what the OP needs, but perfect for my use. Still comfortable, tight handling, less the Hitachi reverb, brake dive, squat and lean.

Try a different wild track at dealer to see if you have different ride and basis for warranty claim since dealers often use same model comparisons when evaluating customer feedback.

Of course, can always dump another 6-12K in custom valved dampers or active dampers which IMO should be stock on every vehicle over $50K.

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