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this is what makes badlands/sasquatch so great whatever the engine
I would say no... in theory yes, but in reality no.

I have a 2.7l BaseSquatch (4.70 gears), my kid has a 2.3l Big Bend (3.73 gears). Both of us are running 35's. I swear his is alot quicker off the line, and I blame it on the turbo lag of the 2.7l.

I know I'm just a broken record over here, but fuck the turbos, fuck getting a tune, just give us a V8 and call it a day. We're not out racing anyone, just want power (torque) when we need it.
 

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I know I'm just a broken record over here, but fuck the turbos, fuck getting a tune, just give us a V8 and call it a day. We're not out racing anyone, just want power (torque) when we need it.
I play the same v8 record!
 

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I would say no... in theory yes, but in reality no.

I have a 2.7l BaseSquatch (4.70 gears), my kid has a 2.3l Big Bend (3.73 gears). Both of us are running 35's. I swear his is alot quicker off the line, and I blame it on the turbo lag of the 2.7l.

I know I'm just a broken record over here, but fuck the turbos, fuck getting a tune, just give us a V8 and call it a day. We're not out racing anyone, just want power (torque) when we need it.
What are the wheel/tire weights and diameters?

Adding big and heavy tires onto a vehicle slows it down a ton. People downplay that here because big tires are cool but it's VERY noticable.
 

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What are the wheel/tire weights and diameters?

Adding big and heavy tires onto a vehicle slows it down a ton. People downplay that here because big tires are cool but it's VERY noticable.
My wheels/tires are stock Sasquatch. Kid (2.3l) has same tires as me, but aftermarket wheels. So I'd say neglible.
 

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I would say no... in theory yes, but in reality no.

I have a 2.7l BaseSquatch (4.70 gears), my kid has a 2.3l Big Bend (3.73 gears). Both of us are running 35's. I swear his is alot quicker off the line, and I blame it on the turbo lag of the 2.7l.

I know I'm just a broken record over here, but fuck the turbos, fuck getting a tune, just give us a V8 and call it a day. We're not out racing anyone, just want power (torque) when we need it.
Okay, now we are getting somewhere...we think it's turbo lag. How are you launching the 2.7? This is the basic idea on the 2.7:
Sport mode, 4wd Hi, Manual, 2nd Gear, Long Hold TC off, rev to 3000-3500, hold for a second, release the brake, floor the gas, bump shifter up to D ASAP.

I'm sure a 2.3 owner can jump in on the proper launch for that engine.

Try this and compare to see if launch makes a difference or if it's just the 2.3L turbos spinning up quicker.
 

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I've owned 4Dr Badlands with both engines and 10-speed automatics. My '22 Badlands with the 2.3 was totaled last year and I replaced it with a '25 Badlands with the 2.7. I think the 2.7 has more acceleration, especially going uphill.
 

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My Mustang 2.3 HPP convertible AT would easily smoke GT 5.0 off the line until 30-40. Bottom end torque and power and is excellent. I also noticed Bronco 2.3 felt very light and agile.
 

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We have a fairly new 2025 Badlands with the 2.7. We’re pretty happy with it, but was recently given a 2026 Big Bend with the 2.3 as a loaner. We’re pretty surprised at how much more responsive the throttle is on this thing compared to our Badlands. The ride is better as well. I kind of assumed the higher priced package, with a bigger engine, would be much better.
Something is not right. I have a 2025 with a 2.3 and a 2023 with a 2.7 and the 2.7 is an absolute rocket compared to the 2.3. If you so much as breathe on the throttle the 2.7 comes to life. The 2.3 is adequate but it’s anemic compared to the 2.7. We have the Ford tune on both engines and I run the 2.3 in sport mode at all times to give it a little life. The 2.7 I never even bother with sport mode. Both Broncos are the identical set up other than the engine size.
 

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Okay, now we are getting somewhere...we think it's turbo lag. How are you launching the 2.7? This is the basic idea on the 2.7:
Sport mode, 4wd Hi, Manual, 2nd Gear, Long Hold TC off, rev to 3000-3500, hold for a second, release the brake, floor the gas, bump shifter up to D ASAP.

I'm sure a 2.3 owner can jump in on the proper launch for that engine.

Try this and compare to see if launch makes a difference or if it's just the 2.3L turbos spinning up quicker.
It's not worth my time to put it in Sport mode, which mind you I have in the past..... and it was only slightly quicker. Still would lose to the 2.3l.

And it's not like I'm driving in a Mustang, I don't need to do 0-60 in 3.4 seconds. But if you mash the pedal, it doesn't move. If you're slowing down to turn and then go to hit the pedal, it does nothing. All I'm saying is, the 2.7l is a little bitch engine.

Give me a simple V8 with 320+ hp and over 400 lb/ft of torque, perfect for what i want. Get rid of the useless 10 speed transmission, drop down to a 7 speed, or even the good old E4OD. Something that if I stomp on the gas pedal, it goes. My older Broncos ('84, '93, '94), two of them had 351's. what did they have, 210hp or some shit? Those would move when you hit the gas at least.
 

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I would say no... in theory yes, but in reality no.

I have a 2.7l BaseSquatch (4.70 gears), my kid has a 2.3l Big Bend (3.73 gears). Both of us are running 35's. I swear his is alot quicker off the line, and I blame it on the turbo lag of the 2.7l.

I know I'm just a broken record over here, but fuck the turbos, fuck getting a tune, just give us a V8 and call it a day. We're not out racing anyone, just want power (torque) when we need it.
Try sport mode. The turbos aren't really too laggy at all. They're little baby turbos. The throttle response in "normal" mode is just terrible.
 

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It's not worth my time to put it in Sport mode, which mind you I have in the past..... and it was only slightly quicker. Still would lose to the 2.3l.

And it's not like I'm driving in a Mustang, I don't need to do 0-60 in 3.4 seconds. But if you mash the pedal, it doesn't move. If you're slowing down to turn and then go to hit the pedal, it does nothing. All I'm saying is, the 2.7l is a little bitch engine.

Give me a simple V8 with 320+ hp and over 400 lb/ft of torque, perfect for what i want. Get rid of the useless 10 speed transmission, drop down to a 7 speed, or even the good old E4OD. Something that if I stomp on the gas pedal, it goes. My older Broncos ('84, '93, '94), two of them had 351's. what did they have, 210hp or some shit? Those would move when you hit the gas at least.
Not worth your time to literally twist a dial a couple of clicks? Once you do it 1 time, it stays that way forever. At startup it will then ask if you want to stay in sport mode and you click "ok." Bonus, it disables the auto start/stop too.

In the time it took you to post 1 sentence on the forum, you could be in sport mode and literally changing your driving experience dramatically.

Don't get me wrong, I want a V8 too (a V8 with a manual would be ideal) but the 2.7 in sport mode is a night and day difference and worlds better than all other engine/mode combinations currently available.

Also, nostalgia is a liar. Your old 351s were snails. 0-60 in just about 10 seconds. We're all guilty of it. 80s and 90s cars were slow as hell. Reminiscing about them is fun, but they weren't what they think they were.
 

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Not worth your time to literally twist a dial a couple of clicks? Once you do it 1 time, it stays that way forever. At startup it will then ask if you want to stay in sport mode and you click "ok." Bonus, it disables the auto start/stop too.

In the time it took you to post 1 sentence on the forum, you could be in sport mode and literally changing your driving experience dramatically.

Don't get me wrong, I want a V8 too (a V8 with a manual would be ideal) but the 2.7 in sport mode is a night and day difference and worlds better than all other engine/mode combinations currently available.

Also, nostalgia is a liar. Your old 351s were snails. 0-60 in just about 10 seconds. We're all guilty of it. 80s and 90s cars were slow as hell. Reminiscing about them is fun, but they weren't what they think they were.
I think you may have missed my point.. Not worth my time... because it isn't, I'm not looking for a sports car with 35's. I'm looking for something that'll tow a trailer, and go when I hit the gas. That's why I could care less about getting a tune.
 

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My first bronco was a Badlands with 2.3. I have a tuned Raptor now. Love the Raptor but in a way I really liked that 2.3. It was zippy. Heck the 2.0 in the Rubicon I had moved pretty good.

In the middle of all this, I had 2.7 on order. I did test drive it when it came in and really liked the 2.7. Ended up keeping my 2.3 mainly because it was Cyber Orange which I really grew to like and was discontinued when I my order officially came up for build.

A few weeks later my 2.3 was totaled in an accident. I bought used rubicon to pass the time and eventually traded it on the Raptor.

If I were buying new I would buy the 2.7 but the 2.3 is completely fine.
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