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[GotWake]

Other than a different roof panel setup and a rear wiper, is there really that big of a difference between the two?

Not really, if they haven’t said anything in a few weeks and I could get the TOR in a month. I wouldn’t hesitate.

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[604Bronco]

One top for me (without a panel). No rear wiper and defrost, and the most important thing (but hard to compare based on photos only) the black finish.

Are they not both a black finish? Slightly different texture I suppose. Maybe I need to get my eyes checked.

 

[redone17]

Other than a different roof panel setup and a rear wiper, is there really that big of a difference between the two?

My main points of contention with the TOR:

To me these look cheap/lower quality:
Interior seams and edges
The damned carpet
Hardware latches
Flat rear window
Exterior finish (to me looks like textured rattle can)

I totally give props for their ability to swoop in and corner the market after ADV has seemingly dropped the ball. But, it looks like at a cost to level of craftsmanship and design. I have faith that they’ll continue to put out quality options and revise make changes and variants. From a business stand-point this version is going to launch their business and I’m sure it’s totally sufficient for most. But, if I’m dropping $4k+ it’s gotta be premium.

I’m currently shopping bed toppers for the Ranger and there are fiberglass options that range from classic to modern and then there is SmartCap which I understand isn’t fiberglass - but, the quality is premium for the cost.

Also, I dunno if it’s just the lens people are using or what - but every image I’ve seen of the side view - the rear slope/slant doesn’t match the glass line and it irks me.

 

[evgenyvasenev]

Are they not both a black finish? Slightly different texture I suppose. Maybe I need to get my eyes checked.

Both, but the texture is different as I can see and TOR is less matte.

 

[evgenyvasenev]

Not really, if they haven’t said anything in a few weeks and I could get the TOR in a month. I wouldn’t hesitate.

Can you get it in a month? My estimation was June-July.

 

[evgenyvasenev]

My main points of contention with the TOR:

To me these look cheap/lower quality:
Interior seams and edges
The damned carpet
Hardware latches
Flat rear window
Exterior finish (to me looks like textured rattle can)

I totally give props for their ability to swoop in and corner the market after ADV has seemingly dropped the ball. But, it looks like at a cost to level of craftsmanship and design. I have faith that they’ll continue to put out quality options and revise make changes and variants. From a business stand-point this version is going to launch their business and I’m sure it’s totally sufficient for most. But, if I’m dropping $4k+ it’s gotta be premium.

I’m currently shopping bed toppers for the Ranger and there are fiberglass options that range from classic to modern and then there is SmartCap which I understand isn’t fiberglass - but, the quality is premium for the cost.

Also, I dunno if it’s just the lens people are using or what - but every image I’ve seen of the side view - the rear slope/slant doesn’t match the glass line and it irks me.

Yep all my points + a one-piece top for me. So let's hope and wait

 

[GotWake]

Can you get it in a month? My estimation was June-July.

No, I just mean if that were the case. I know the moment I switch, it will be mid year and my ADV top will ship the next week. FOMO

 

[Kjbeggs]

My main points of contention with the TOR:

To me these look cheap/lower quality:
Interior seams and edges
The damned carpet
Hardware latches
Flat rear window
Exterior finish (to me looks like textured rattle can)

I totally give props for their ability to swoop in and corner the market after ADV has seemingly dropped the ball. But, it looks like at a cost to level of craftsmanship and design. I have faith that they’ll continue to put out quality options and revise make changes and variants. From a business stand-point this version is going to launch their business and I’m sure it’s totally sufficient for most. But, if I’m dropping $4k+ it’s gotta be premium.

I’m currently shopping bed toppers for the Ranger and there are fiberglass options that range from classic to modern and then there is SmartCap which I understand isn’t fiberglass - but, the quality is premium for the cost.

Also, I dunno if it’s just the lens people are using or what - but every image I’ve seen of the side view - the rear slope/slant doesn’t match the glass line and it irks me.

I've noticed that difference in the slant/glass line too, and hoped it was just an optical illusion. Looking again at the photos on TOR's site, I think that's just the way it is though...

 

[evgenyvasenev]

@ADV Fiberglass

 

[Granite Gorge]

Have they lowered their price yet?

 

[BroncoBoy22]

Have they lowered their price yet?

They should, but they won’t

 

[pakrat]

But, if I’m dropping $4k+ it’s gotta be premium.

Gonna have to drop $6k plus unfortunately.

Edit: Here are the actual prices. Not bagging on ADV or anyone just posting this for those on the fence trying to decide. These are the actual costs for essentially apples to apples. Is ADV higher quality? Maybe but nobody has one. And if it is, is it worth $2,147.85 more?

ADV: $7k plus at a minimum. I checked my 2/28/22 ADV minute 0 order and it was $7,027.43. That was only the top w/headliner and delivery and their limited warranty. I didn't want wiper assembly and such. It could only be cheaper by going one piece (-$500) and no headliner (-$575) but that is no longer apples to apples.

TOR: Out the door to my house $4879.58. Same specs almost exactly other than two piece vs once piece panel. Headliner and no wiper assembly. Lifetime warranty.

Keep in mind you could save a little by picking up your tops. I know ADV charges for that, not sure about TOR. ADV shipping was 2x the $$$ of TOR and you will have to assemble it yourself. My shipping experience with TOR was that my top was picked up by the carrier on Thursday afternoon. It arrived at the local hub the next morning! I could have had it within 24 hrs. had I answered my phone but I got it on Monday instead. That's all I got. More food for thought.

 

[Rd1103]

Other than a different roof panel setup and a rear wiper, is there really that big of a difference between the two?

Aside from the foam core, there is one main difference..

One actually exists in a finished product form and has been delivered to a paying customer.

 

[GreenMtnBronco]

It’s a SCAM! Get your refunds while you can. These guys are a JOKE. Already have confirmed date from Anderson composites after getting my refund and thrilled to get it sooner and for less money with more features. More importantly peace of mind it might actually ship!

Anderson is quoting 28-32 weeks, how accurate do you think that is? it would be nice to have a top in hand for winter of 24/25 which means I may have to place a bet now.
does anderson require full payment up front? or can you do a deposit? do we know if anderson is completely manufacturing in the US? China? elsewhere?
what other tops did you consider? and why Anderson over those?

 

[Brave Man]

Anderson is quoting 28-32 weeks, how accurate do you think that is? it would be nice to have a top in hand for winter of 24/25 which means I may have to place a bet now.
does anderson require full payment up front? or can you do a deposit? do we know if anderson is completely manufacturing in the US? China? elsewhere?
what other tops did you consider? and why Anderson over those?

with Anderson you pay the dealer and they procure the top from AC. Each dealer may have different policies, mine (Colorado Bronco Upfitters) asked for an upfront deposit with the balance paid upon installation (they did the install for me).
I paid roughly a 50% deposit but they were very flexible and I chose the 50 % so that I can get some of the top paid for as soon as I could and not have a $7,000 payment all at once.
As far as I know Anderson's top is manufactured in the USA, their lead time was about 24 weeks for me (ordered April 18th, delivered to Colorado Bronco Upfitters in late August, installed September 1st), but it may have gone up since then with more orders.
I am very happy with the product and my dealings with both AC who gave me timely updates on progress/delivery status when I called and the service from Colorado Bronco Upfitters.

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