Even though my post has degraded to a Texas A&M / University of Texas rivalry, good riddance to both of those programs, i was able to finally find a pepper red Ranger that had sun and shade. I don't agree that this color is anywhere near UT orange, Tennessee Orange or Clemson Orange. It is red at first look. It only trends orange in the sunlight and even then it's more of a blood orange. I personally like it. The only thing I can say about my alum is I wish we had Mike Leach back when we beat A&M every year, now its just embarrassing.