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Chiming in - Finally got mine done after jumping through a series of hoops. I guess I'll be the first to say that I don't notice a big difference. With my lift I don't take corners too fast, but I guess it feels a bit more planted when I do now. Maybe there's less rear bump-steer, but I don't remember that being a big issue. To be honest, I only bought it because of the number of threads where people really hyped it up. It's definitely no downgrade, but I'm not sure if it's placebo or 3% better.

I will add that after getting skid plates, and the rear cargo box, my rear end was already pretty weighed down which may have straightened out my trackbar more than most with a lift.
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Chiming in - Finally got mine done after jumping through a series of hoops. I guess I'll be the first to say that I don't notice a big difference. With my lift I don't take corners too fast, but I guess it feels a bit more planted when I do now. Maybe there's less rear bump-steer, but I don't remember that being a big issue. To be honest, I only bought it because of the number of threads where people really hyped it up. It's definitely no downgrade, but I'm not sure if it's placebo or 3% better.

I will add that after getting skid plates, and the rear cargo box, my rear end was already pretty weighed down which may have straightened out my trackbar more than most with a lift.
It will be interesting to see how it drives after the next alignment if the shop finds any adjustments to do here.

I’ll do mine next week, not because of a big lift but per weight which you also mention. RJ says - “ lifted vehicles that feature heavy additions above the roof or behind the tailgate. The addition of this bracket will restore rear suspension lateral geometry and produce better overall vehicle handling by raising the rear suspension roll center to bring it closer to the vehicle’s center of gravity.” My rear end swims a little bit now when rear racks are loaded, despite a great 4 wheel shop alignment (Sal’s for those of you around Houston, who is big on seeing that trac bar leveled as possible. He’s taken mine as far as he can go).
 

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Chiming in - Finally got mine done after jumping through a series of hoops. I guess I'll be the first to say that I don't notice a big difference. With my lift I don't take corners too fast, but I guess it feels a bit more planted when I do now. Maybe there's less rear bump-steer, but I don't remember that being a big issue. To be honest, I only bought it because of the number of threads where people really hyped it up. It's definitely no downgrade, but I'm not sure if it's placebo or 3% better.

I will add that after getting skid plates, and the rear cargo box, my rear end was already pretty weighed down which may have straightened out my trackbar more than most with a lift.
I’m with you.. But the geometry correction can’t be denied whether you feel a difference or not. I’m not noticing a big difference but I didn’t have mine Stock height long before I lifted it and a few days later put the bracket on. It’s not my daily driver either.
Where you might have noticed it would be on bumps in corners like country roads around here that have dips and stuff in them. And you really would’ve had to pay attention before and after. Someone that is a “driver” (as BMW would describe) that drives spirited and notices finesse changes, will definitely notice the difference.
 
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I’m with you.. But the geometry correction can’t be denied whether you feel a difference or not. I’m not noticing a big difference but I didn’t have mine Stock height long before I lifted it and a few days later put the bracket on. It’s not my daily driver either.
Where you might have noticed it would be on bumps in corners like country roads around here that have dips and stuff in them. And you really would’ve had to pay attention before and after. Someone that is a “driver” (as BMW would describe) that drives spirited and notices finesse changes, will definitely notice the difference.
This is correct and I agree. I am technically "a driver" (used to track professionally in my younger years) so likely did notice it and appreciate it a lot more. I'm very OCD as well and have driven this over the same sections of road in my neighborhood and also the same freeway sections - and the difference is there especially at higher speeds. I think off-roading on faster sections of the trails we all do, the responsiveness will be felt more. But also - i would get it professionally aligned and see how it feels after :thumbsup:
 

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Just received my bracket in the mail, and will install it this weekend. There's a bumpy corner (tree root) on my way home where I can try out the difference. If the difference is negligible, I'd still be glad to know that the geometry is now as the factory designed it to be.
 

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Just received my bracket in the mail, and will install it this weekend. There's a bumpy corner (tree root) on my way home where I can try out the difference. If the difference is negligible, I'd still be glad to know that the geometry is now as the factory designed it to be.
Nice :) Off a tree root (rumble-bump), once the tires get traction again - the rear should feel slightly more "planted." Again, varies per situation. I recently just came back from crossing over freeways earlier and this specific exchange-ramp is a long, left sweeper that has several uneven joints that unweight the vehicle as you are making the turn at 50-55mph.....I used to have a slight "wiggle-wiggle" and it is just smooth now. Love it :)
 

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Nice :) Off a tree root (rumble-bump), once the tires get traction again - the rear should feel slightly more "planted." Again, varies per situation. I recently just came back from crossing over freeways earlier and this specific exchange-ramp is a long, left sweeper that has several uneven joints that unweight the vehicle as you are making the turn at 50-55mph.....I used to have a slight "wiggle-wiggle" and it is just smooth now. Love it :)
That reminds me of exactly when I knew I had the right alignment; driving on my normal city routes and realize I’m no longer automatically speed gripping the steering wheel or bracing my body, holding down the coffee cup for certain sways or bumps. Once I do this track bar relo next week I’ll have some before and after spots like the “stump” to deliberately compare.
 

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Because of all ya'll, I spent more money on my Bronco
Just end it there and that’s the story of my Bronco ownership experience.
 
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Because of all ya'll, I spent more money on my Bronco and got the Fabtech version. It's real beefy and got it for $106 shipped!
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After reading this thread, I am considering a Rock Jock tracbar relocation bracket. My question is, does it matter the height of the lift? I have the Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 coilovers and not really interested in buying an adjustable tracbar.
 

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After reading this thread, I am considering a Rock Jock tracbar relocation bracket. My question is, does it matter the height of the lift? I have the Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 coilovers and not really interested in buying an adjustable tracbar.
You don't need an adjustable tracbar. The relocation bracket can be used with the oem trackbar. As a general rule, the recommendation for the bracket is lift height over 2". But I would argue that any lift over the HOSS 1.0 suspension would benefit. When you get over 3" of lift is when the adjustable tracbar should be factored in.
 

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After reading this thread, I am considering a Rock Jock tracbar relocation bracket. My question is, does it matter the height of the lift? I have the Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 coilovers and not really interested in buying an adjustable tracbar.
You should be close enough for government work with the factory trackbar.
 
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After reading this thread, I am considering a Rock Jock tracbar relocation bracket. My question is, does it matter the height of the lift? I have the Eibach Pro Truck 2.0 coilovers and not really interested in buying an adjustable tracbar.
So, the height of the lift does matter - because if you are lifting it maybe 1.5 to 2.5 inches from stock height then the bracket should/may suffice (but it won't necessarily be perfect). Any higher and I would highly recommend an adjustable track bar. Think of it this way......at the left of the track bar it CONNECTS to the body of the Bronco. The right, opposite end, of the track bar connects to the right-most part of your axle. The connection points are NOT in the center. As shown in the pic below:

Ford Bronco Rear TracBar Relocation Bracket - Get One! IMG_7287


For a proper comparison - The Ranger Raptor has solved this issue with a center-link system. Regardless of how high or low the travel of the axle it always remains centered and handling/geometry are not compromised. Very cool tech I might add, shown below:

Ford Bronco Rear TracBar Relocation Bracket - Get One! ranger track bar


Now, back to the Bronco - Let's say we REMOVE BOTH the rear control arms and rear shocks that are attached to the axle - and the ONLY thing connecting the Axle to the vehicle is the track bar. With the vehicle on the ground, if King Kong (for lack of a better example) were to lift the body upwards, as long as the wheels remain on the ground, they should remain centered in the same spot about 25% of the way up. But the track bar will keep exerting more pulling force the higher it goes - wanting to DRAG the axle to the left. A relocation bracket LIFTS UP the connection point on the axle, correcting geometry and actually improving it by "delaying the angle-rise of the track bar." As seen in the pic below:

Ford Bronco Rear TracBar Relocation Bracket - Get One! IMG_7290 2


What this also accomplishes, is it spreads the lateral loads more evenly - meaning left and right movements (pulling to the right, pushing to the left) as the suspension goes up and down. This translates into better handling since the forces travel a shorter distance and are on a more level plane. This is felt through better steering inputs (road/trail feel). It is thus better, but not necessary, to have an adjustable track bar as well - so that a proper alignment shop can dial in the perfect length the track bar needs to be at, depending on your lift.

I hope this explanation helps clarify things :thumbsup:
 

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So, the height of the lift does matter - because if you are lifting it maybe 1.5 to 2.5 inches from stock height then the bracket should/may suffice (but it won't necessarily be perfect). Any higher and I would highly recommend an adjustable track bar. Think of it this way......at the left of the track bar it CONNECTS to the body of the Bronco. The right, opposite end, of the track bar connects to the right-most part of your axle. The connection points are NOT in the center. As shown in the pic below:

IMG_7287.jpg


For a proper comparison - The Ranger Raptor has solved this issue with a center-link system. Regardless of how high or low the travel of the axle it always remains centered and handling/geometry are not compromised. Very cool tech I might add, shown below:

ranger track bar.jpg


Now, back to the Bronco - Let's say we REMOVE BOTH the rear control arms and rear shocks that are attached to the axle - and the ONLY thing connecting the Axle to the vehicle is the track bar. With the vehicle on the ground, if King Kong (for lack of a better example) were to lift the body upwards, as long as the wheels remain on the ground, they should remain centered in the same spot about 25% of the way up. But the track bar will keep exerting more pulling force the higher it goes - wanting to DRAG the axle to the left. A relocation bracket LIFTS UP the connection point on the axle, correcting geometry and actually improving it by "delaying the angle-rise of the track bar." As seen in the pic below:

IMG_7290 2.jpg


What this also accomplishes, is it spreads the lateral loads more evenly - meaning left and right movements (pulling to the right, pushing to the left) as the suspension goes up and down. This translates into better handling since the forces travel a shorter distance and are on a more level plane. This is felt through better steering inputs (road/trail feel). It is thus better, but not necessary, to have an adjustable track bar as well - so that a proper alignment shop can dial in the perfect length the track bar needs to be at, depending on your lift.

I hope this explanation helps clarify things :thumbsup:
Thank you for the thorough explanation along with the photos, based on my current setup the relocation bracket should suffice.
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