Wheel offset questions...

[MikeCt]

Received this response from Custom Wheel House (Method Race Wheels) in response
to an inquiry about future possibilities for wheels for the Outer Banks.

Oh Yeah!

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[5280Bronco]

Received this response from Custom Wheel House (Method Race Wheels) in response
to an inquiry about future possibilities for wheels for the Outer Banks.

Oh Yeah!

That's the kind of response i would hope to get instead of "they work since ford tried it" and leaving it at that. Looking forward to putting a set on my rig once they get some bronco specific fitment worked out.

 

[boxwood]

Everyone makes wheels for the Bronco, the wheel pattern is what determines if they "fit" (generally). The backspacing is how they look.

"for" and "fit" are two very different things

I can fit a lot of power connectors into a device...doesn't mean its for that device. And if you use the wrong one?

 

[AcesandEights]

You're right.

 

[pan-y-cerveza]

Ford has been driving this one all over and it seems fine.

They've been driving it on and off a trailer to display at shows.

While it is likely "fine" it may not be ideal and I certainly wouldn't use this specific Bronco as proof of that.

 

[CoolTech]

One of the most important aspects of wheel fitment - and conveniently avoided by the aftermarket, is the concept of hub-centric. Virtually EVERY wheel on EVERY vehicle from EVERY OEM for the last couple of DECADES is hub-centric. Despite this, virtually every aftermarket rim is NOT hub-centric.... and I really think that's a problem.

Hub centric refers to the ~2" hole in the center of the wheel that is the exact diameter of the vehicles hub (even if that hub in most cases is only protruding ~1/4" into the wheel). The reason for this is simple. Hub-centric wheels transmit shear forces to the hub - and NOT to the lugs. So, for a street-driven car, imagine hitting a big pothole. That "impact" force is a shear force on the wheel and it is absorbed by the hub (arguably the strongest part of the wheel). Now, imagine an off-road vehicle that is used as intended.... these wheels and suspension will take a pounding!

The aftermarket wheels typically will drill out this center hole so that the wheel can fit as many different vehicles as possible. As such, the vast majority of aftermarket wheels are not hub-centric.... and when you are not hub-centric then you are lug-centric. Lug-centric means that not only are the lugs responsible for fastening the wheel - the lugs will have to also be responsible for shear forces. Not the best of designs.

Think about this. EVERY wheel that Ford will offer as standard or optional equipment for the Bronco will be hub-centric. 100%. Guaranteed. Ironically, only a small % of the aftermarket wheels for the Bronco will be hub-centric - and these will come from the manufacturers who are really taking the Bronco market seriously. Do yourself a favor and insist on a wheel that is designed and manufactured for the Bronco - those will be hub-centric.

 

[Raptor911]

Transported on a car carrier from show to show. I would not say that is driving it around.

Ford has been driving this one all over and it seems fine.

 

[Raptor911]

how do you know the sasquatch is 30+

 

[Raptor911]

buy a forged wheel and it will be hub-centric.

Titan7s on my Raptor (17 x 8.5, -1 offset, 20.6 pounds and hub-centric). They will have an application for a Bronco as soon as they can get their hands on one.

One of the most important aspects of wheel fitment - and conveniently avoided by the aftermarket, is the concept of hub-centric. Virtually EVERY wheel on EVERY vehicle from EVERY OEM for the last couple of DECADES is hub-centric. Despite this, virtually every aftermarket rim is NOT hub-centric.... and I really think that's a problem.

Hub centric refers to the ~2" hole in the center of the wheel that is the exact diameter of the vehicles hub (even if that hub in most cases is only protruding ~1/4" into the wheel). The reason for this is simple. Hub-centric wheels transmit shear forces to the hub - and NOT to the lugs. So, for a street-driven car, imagine hitting a big pothole. That "impact" force is a shear force on the wheel and it is absorbed by the hub (arguably the strongest part of the wheel). Now, imagine an off-road vehicle that is used as intended.... these wheels and suspension will take a pounding!

The aftermarket wheels typically will drill out this center hole so that the wheel can fit as many different vehicles as possible. As such, the vast majority of aftermarket wheels are not hub-centric.... and when you are not hub-centric then you are lug-centric. Lug-centric means that not only are the lugs responsible for fastening the wheel - the lugs will have to also be responsible for shear forces. Not the best of designs.

Think about this. EVERY wheel that Ford will offer as standard or optional equipment for the Bronco will be hub-centric. 100%. Guaranteed. Ironically, only a small % of the aftermarket wheels for the Bronco will be hub-centric - and these will come from the manufacturers who are really taking the Bronco market seriously. Do yourself a favor and insist on a wheel that is designed and manufactured for the Bronco - those will be hub-centric.

 

[acetdeucy]

Now that we know the offset for stock wheels is +55mm, other than clearing the fenders is there any issue going to a wheel with 0mm offset?
Looking at aftermarket wheels, they are almost all 0mm offset.
I know this will push the wheels/tires out about 2" on each side, which I think will look fine but does this have a significant negative effect on steering/suspension/etc.?

I am getting a 4dr base and want to upgrade the wheels but it looks like the vast majority of options will be 0mm offset.

Thanks!

Well, maybe the bigger worry is that most aftermarket suspensions note that if your offset is greater than 4.5”, then you will have “fit” problems in your wheel wells. Just sayin’...

 

[Raptor911]

PERFECT! Then running a 0 offset wheel should work on a Sasquatch equipped Bronco.

Raptor oem wheel is 34+ and most guys run a 0 offset wheel

 

[MJJ]

One of the most important aspects of wheel fitment - and conveniently avoided by the aftermarket, is the concept of hub-centric. Virtually EVERY wheel on EVERY vehicle from EVERY OEM for the last couple of DECADES is hub-centric. Despite this, virtually every aftermarket rim is NOT hub-centric.... and I really think that's a problem.

Hub centric refers to the ~2" hole in the center of the wheel that is the exact diameter of the vehicles hub (even if that hub in most cases is only protruding ~1/4" into the wheel). The reason for this is simple. Hub-centric wheels transmit shear forces to the hub - and NOT to the lugs. So, for a street-driven car, imagine hitting a big pothole. That "impact" force is a shear force on the wheel and it is absorbed by the hub (arguably the strongest part of the wheel). Now, imagine an off-road vehicle that is used as intended.... these wheels and suspension will take a pounding!

The aftermarket wheels typically will drill out this center hole so that the wheel can fit as many different vehicles as possible. As such, the vast majority of aftermarket wheels are not hub-centric.... and when you are not hub-centric then you are lug-centric. Lug-centric means that not only are the lugs responsible for fastening the wheel - the lugs will have to also be responsible for shear forces. Not the best of designs.

Think about this. EVERY wheel that Ford will offer as standard or optional equipment for the Bronco will be hub-centric. 100%. Guaranteed. Ironically, only a small % of the aftermarket wheels for the Bronco will be hub-centric - and these will come from the manufacturers who are really taking the Bronco market seriously. Do yourself a favor and insist on a wheel that is designed and manufactured for the Bronco - those will be hub-centric.

I buy custom wheels that are hub centric but even those that are not can still purchase hub rings to correct for this issue. Not as good being a true hub centric wheel but still a workable solution.

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