Bout had it with Ford

[Headsong]

So strange and sad that a company that sucks this much and has so many skanky dealers can build a vehicle this great.

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[userdude]

I'm glad somebody said it. They might still be a step ahead of Ford but Toyota is coasting on an old reputation. Dig a little deeper and modern Toyotas have tons of problems too.

Chocolate has a filth factor. It's irreducibly true nothing is great all the time, forever. It just doesn't happen. Ford could be better at a lot, but it chooses stasis over radical reinvention. Understandable, but c'mon, a Ford is just not as reliable as car companies with manufacturing lines post-"planned obsolescence".

 

[hemiblas]

Every Ford I have ever had has had issues. I bought the 100k Warranty through Granger on my Bronco. It gives me peace of mind. I never keep any vehicle past 60k as most other manufacturers have had issues as well. Dodge, jeep....It is all the same. Luck of the draw as people have mentioned.

 

[userdude]

My opinion of Toyota is, boring vehicles for boring people. Nothing they make has a soul. When you don’t change engine architecture for over 20 years, sure, I expect it to be perfected. But, 2023 with a 6 speed AT? Come on.

This Bronco is my first Ford, but I have to say, always have admired how Ford evokes emotion and passion.

"Ford can make a desirable car but not a good one."

Hell, Ford gets a ROLL TIDE!

Pfft, gig em! lol

 

[Tricky Mike]

My opinion of Toyota is, boring vehicles for boring people.

Nailed it. It could be their underpowered old engines, their boring drivers, or a combination of the two, but 9 times out of 10 it's a Toyota holding up traffic.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

"Ford can make a desirable car but not a good one."



Pfft, gig em! lol

I like that. Pretty much hit’s it square. They can work hard and turn out good stuff ”when they want to”. Then, in Motorsports, they’re really strong, and I mean in all classes and specs, so not just NASCAR.

Ford is big in Australia too, but I don’t think there are guys taking an Everest across the Canning Stock Route, like they will a Troopy Toyota, but hell, they’ll take a Landy too, so what does that say?

They’re not perfect, but they’re the best domestic to me. I’d never buy a GM product, not even the Vette and I have very mixed feelings about saying that one.

Boy ohh boy is this Bronco an object of desire. Heck, I even like this new Mustang, which just 15 years ago I called a car for man children. Eating them words for sure!

 

[userdude]

,,,

Pfft, gig em! lol

Damn, you must really feel it if that low hangin' Aggie/Longhorn trollin' didn't get nothin' but cut bait.

 

[userdude]

They’re not perfect, but they’re the best domestic to me. I’d never buy a GM product, not even the Vette and I have very mixed feelings about saying that one.

I got a 2010 Chevy Silverado V6 SB single cab that's been going strong, I don't doubt American car manufacturers can make good rides, I just think they're too smart by half too often.

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

Damn, you must really feel it if that low hangin' Aggie/Longhorn trollin' didn't get nothin' but cut bait.

Our Texas trolls to the SEC are treated as we so trolls here on Bronco6G. Ha ha!

 

[userdude]

Our Texas trolls to the SEC are treated as we so trolls here on Bronco6G. Ha ha!

LOL, sure man, Roll tide!

Weak sauce anyhow...

 

[Psny]

Lol. You are the one. You got that part right.

OK sure, read the room. I currently have 6 Fords, my grievance with CS is warranted.

 

[Bluedoggie]

Is it a problem now or have we had this problem forever? Is it Social Media that brings all of this to our attention from a few thousand people and now the manufacturers have to react? Prior to Social Media most only heard from the people around them while the Manufacturer would just sell and produce vehicles, not assemble them. With new laws and these forums it only makes Manufacturers react to be competitive with their competition.

 

[bikesandguitars]

Been having some bad luck with them lately, passenger side camera went out on the Bronco, transmission in the super duty, timing chain in the eco boost, water pump in the explorer, & was in the process of buying another explorer and the hold was put on for 360 camera. Not to mention the inconvenient recalls & tsb's but the worst part is there customer service. One could over look most of this if they took care of their loyal customers instead of pushing responsibility to the dealer. Rant over, any other brand recommendations.

We are a Toyota family. Land Cruisers, Tundra, Tacoma, Venza, RAV4, FJ’s - They just don’t break. They hold their value. They won’t leave you stranded. It’s all about reliability and cost of ownership. Toyota leads in both categories.

 

[swami37]

OK sure, read the room. I currently have 6 Fords, my grievance with CS is warranted.

I have 9 fords and no problems. So There that
Maybe It is you

 

[wjtinfwb]

Good luck with all my Ford’s, dating back to an ‘85 GT convertible. But Ford has a real problem with their dealers and service departments. I had a great dealer when I lived in N Atlanta. Consistent, honest, worked to build loyalty and referrals. Now in NW Florida and the 2 dealers convenient to me are abysmal. Sales departments are bad enough with dealer mark up on everything along with the customary dealer charges on the buyer order. But their service departments are worse. Routine oil changes require appointments weeks in advance, follow up is non existent and service work is rarely completed the first time, requiring follow up visits. One of them also owns the Honda and Acura franchises and pulls similar stunts there. Bad dealers were the downfall of VW in the US, I can see Ford headed down that same path. I understand that are independent businesses but they represent and deliver on the Ford brand and promise. It’s a problem that deserves and needs to be fixed.

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