Everything you said is true if you pay attention. I don’t like that Ford went away from what they promised to the consumers with the reservation process, but they did. It’s also not just Granger buyers that could be at risk, but any reservation holder at a smaller dealer in a smaller market is at a disadvantage based on the formula.
One man's "facts" are another man's brainwashery. Where you get your "facts" and how you interpret them can turn them into something that is no longer, and possibly never was, fact. One of the problems I see a lot here is how quickly people assume what someone in a position of presumed authority has told them must be fact. When you get your ass handed to you in a Dixie cup later because you made ridiculously bad assumptions, don't complain to anyone or expect a mulligan because the facts you heard weren't actually facts but someone's subjective interpretation of the truth.
no arguments there. My whole post was for the simple fact that people are getting super worked up about 2021 vs 2022, when im getting this, when im getting that. this is constantly changing and nobody really know. im probably holding off for a 2022 for the hopes of Sage so
Even Ford won't know the answers to those questions for many, many months. Those decisions aren't finalized this early. History can be a guide here:
They are the facts as current from ford. keep in mind i finished out that statement with this is ever changing. hence why all of this entire thread is laughable at best.
GetWild- which dealership do you work for? I'd like to know so I can avoid it at all costs.
I find some of it laughable, too. That you insist on finding the entire thread "funny" and "laughable" reveals how little you understand about customers.
It really isn't that serious
Heh. Another new member from St. Louis.
Splitting the plant with rangers figure March to November so 9 months.. I figure 2000 or less a week. So realistically 70-80k.
you seem to think i have some problem with Granger in any way. I dont care how Granger does their thing. Im not concerned with out of state dealerships and im not trying to "snag" out of state deals or capture anyone elses market lol. Im straight hitting on the fact that this thread is entertaining. the 2021 vs 2022 discussion has become comical. ive stated the fact that someone prior to the 2021 deadline could wind up with a 2022, and vise versa. these are facts based on Fords current allocation method. I find it laughable because im being bashed for stating a pretty simple and easy to read fact based on what Ford has released to dealers.... you know, the people who will be selling them and taking the orders.
I apologize for being a new member. I see that you run the show around here. My apologies, King Elmystico
This isn't quite correct. Yes, it's true that our reservation numbers aren't an exact place in line, but it's reasonably close, subject to how Ford actually produces the vehicles. If I'm holding #10000, I'm not getting mine after someone who holds #50000 just because he ordered with a different dealer. The biggest factor in delaying receipt of a Bronco from the approximate place in line could be supply constraints.
And you arent quite entirely correct either. Yes to an extent, but dealer allocation will 1000% be a big factor, hence my whole point of my statement in the first place. im not dogging on any dealer, or anyone for how they are doing things. Allocation, supply constraints, ect will all be factors, which is why the 2021 vs 2022 argument is somewhat of a moot point. But yes, only closer numbers will really vary. this thread is geared towards those around the sept 18th order timeframe though. early reservations should be good.
Understood, though I think that is a slightly different situation. There, Ford has finalized the trims and options, but the web site isn't matching. With the Bronco, I wouldn't be surprised if Ford isn't still finalizing some of the smaller details of what might be available, though I expect very little change from what's been shown. But, if they are trying to figure out how to address a demand, it's not unreasonable to think the would find it worth delaying B&P to figure out how to make it happen. People might be griping now about no B&P, but if Ford comes later and says, "We held off B&P so we could get you that option you wanted so badly," people will be happier in the end. I'm not saying this is the case, but I can think of several things that could be holding up B&P until final answers have been determined.
