Rear adjustable track bar VS relocation brackets?

[87-Z28]

@Fordified1 has a track bar relocation bracket and the eibach struts. It seems he hasn’t had any issues. The 18” may be conservative. Unless heavily loaded or jumping you may not be able to bottom out shocks in full compression. Also bump stop will play a role. I would ask rickjock how they came up with the 18” requirement.

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[Fordified1]

@Fordified1 has a track bar relocation bracket and the eibach struts. It seems he hasn’t had any issues. The 18” may be conservative. Unless heavily loaded or jumping you may not be able to bottom out shocks in full compression. Also bump stop will play a role. I would ask rickjock how they came up with the 18” requirement.

I don’t do fast woops or jumps, just rock crawl and as far as I know the bracket has never hit. I’ve had it articulated fully and the opposite tire lifts off the ground before the coilover is fully compressed.

 

[kodiakisland]

Already answered, but if you lift very much of factory, you will benefit from both. They affect the geometry differently and both most likely are needed, or at least add benefit. You'll also benefit from replacing the factory bar with hard rubber bushings with a track bar with uniball or johnny joints for more articulation.

 

[evgenyvasenev]

Already answered, but if you lift very much of factory, you will benefit from both. They affect the geometry differently and both most likely are needed, or at least add benefit. You'll also benefit from replacing the factory bar with hard rubber bushings with a track bar with uniball or johnny joints for more articulation.

Ho much is very much from SAS? Not sure yet but I would probably gain 1-2" from SAS @AccuTune Offroad probably could say more accurately

 

[Broncory]

I don’t do fast woops or jumps, just rock crawl and as far as I know the bracket has never hit. I’ve had it articulated fully and the opposite tire lifts off the ground before the coilover is fully compressed.

Thanks. I might just go ahead and give it a try. My measurements with the eibachs, maxed at top allowable thread height per specs in the rear, gave me 2.25” of lift over SAS, not counting the increase in od for my 37’s I added. But definitely feel some loading/ bucking when I put it in reverse. So something needs to be done with the trackbar for sure.

 

[Fordified1]

Thanks. I might just go ahead and give it a try. My measurements with the eibachs, maxed at top allowable thread height per specs in the rear, gave me 2.25” of lift over SAS, not counting the increase in od for my 37’s I added. But definitely feel some loading/ bucking when I put it in reverse. So something needs to be done with the trackbar for sure.

My adjusters are only 2 threads above the bottom. And I have the regular springs. You’ll be fine.

 

[APG]

Agreed. This is so annoying. I tried off-roading with the bracket and the bracket would smash the frame so hard on fast bumps with my 4WP coilovers. Had to take it off. I wish someone would make a bracket that would extend the frame pivot side down. Seems so lazy that all these companies just copy each other and make the same exact one that makes the axle mount go up. @APG makes one but it doesn't work with a stock setup since theirs is designed with their long travel kit that moves the axle back 1" also. @APG please make a bolt on one to go a long with your midrunner kit!

What problem are people having without lowering the upper panhard bracket?

 

[climb2descend]

What problem are people having without lowering the upper panhard bracket?

When using the axle mounted trac bar relocation brackets and shocks that have a total length at full compression less then 18" then the relocation bracket can hit the frame. Would also be nice to have the frame side pivot one so then you can have more adjustment position holes. Probably not a big market for it to be honest, after looking at the most of the shock lengths on the market only a few are less then 18"

 

[Broncory]

When using the axle mounted trac bar relocation brackets and shocks that have a total length at full compression less then 18" then the relocation bracket can hit the frame. Would also be nice to have the frame side pivot one so then you can have more adjustment position holes. Probably not a big market for it to be honest, after looking at the most of the shock lengths on the market only a few are less then 18"

This is my biggest concern with the eibachs. I have the RockJock bracket on the way though

 

[87-Z28]

On my Bronco with the 6100 bills that have a compressed length of 17.11”, there is 7” of clearance between Panhard bar axle mount and frame at ride height. I have the oem bump stop and there is only 2.5” of jounce available before bump stop is engaged. So at most I can get 3” of full compression. Including a 1.1 motion ratio for oem rear control arms (3.3” of axle motion), that leaves a 3.7”clearance with frame. A 2.5” additional panhard bar mount leaves 1.2” of available clearance.

Easy to measure with a tape. I suggest you convince yourself all is good in the world. I think you will find that you have sufficient clearance, especially if you have an oem bump stop. Them suckers are big and inhibit the full compression from the manufactures specs.

 

[climb2descend]

Interesting, yah I need to take some measurements. I had the fabtech bracket and it was a very unsettling and harsh clang I would get with it and visible marks on the frame and bracket. Seems like my combination is the worst one likely, I didn't realize the fabtech one was decent amount taller then the RJ and Boss4x4. My setup might work with one of those other ones.

 

[Goldberg]

I’m upgrading my suspension and moving to 37” tires, and I’m trying to understand the difference between using track bar relocation brackets versus replacing the bar with an adjustable one. I’ve received two completely opposite recommendations, so I’m currently on the fence.

Like ICON VS RJ

You want your panhard/trackbar level to the ground.

I’m upgrading my suspension and moving to 37” tires, and I’m trying to understand the difference between using track bar relocation brackets versus replacing the bar with an adjustable one. I’ve received two completely opposite recommendations, so I’m currently on the fence.

Like ICON VS RJ

You want your panhard/trackbar parallel to the axle as much as possible.

 

[F-Spot]

It's been noted in other threads, but everyone should keep in mind that not all relocation brackets relocate the trackbar the same amount. Teraflex relocates the mounting point 2.375" higher. Rockjock is close to the same. The bracket that came with my RealTruck Superlift/Fox kit raises the mounting point around 4"...I ditched this bracket and went with the RockJock.

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