Sounds like you could benefit from a new “used car inspector”. Seriously, if there is a trust issue with “people hiding problems”, why would you even make an offer on the vehicle? Lololololololol.
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2021 Bronco NOT Eligible For X-Plan (Official Document Confirmation) [Update: Confirmed by Ford]
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I'm paying cash for my next vehicle as I always do unless I can get a close to zero percent interest loan. My issue isn't being over-extended, my issue is that I am a proudly cheap bastard and no matter what I always look for value above all else even though I'm a massive fan of the bronco for nestalgia reasons. The x-plan ensured that customer wasn't get gouged on doc fees and wasn't charged a markup. It essentially insured that everyone got a fair deal, the customer, dealer, and ford. Without the x-plan I expect local dealers to all collectively try to screw me. Nestalgia is only worth so much to me and at $50K I can find a lot of SUVs that are more practical and higher quality. I don't think Ford realizes how elastic their demand really is. Not to mention that there is a massive asset bubble right now (stock market, housing, etc.) that could easily pop before broncos are delivered next year.
I'm going to see what the MSRP is for the options I want and then go from there to attempt to negotiate with dealers, but at this point I don't have an issue completely walking away and just going with an alternative. Aside from the childhood nestalgia I have zero brand loyalty to ford and have never owned a ford as an adult because I've always considered them of inferior quality.
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Some vehicles have issues that come up sporadically. The dealer buys the vehicle as is. Weird electrical issues, transmissions going bad, stalling problems, abs issues....Not all of them can be found with a simple test drive.
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I get what your saying but that’s not what I’m talking about. I mean literally less than the lowest market poor value you can find kinda low. I understand risk and invoice to invoice fair is fair and I completely understand making a profit and running a business. So I agree. You would be appalled by the crap some of these dealers in Tennessee do.
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I would but it contains my personal info in it and I'm gonna give Ford a chance to clarify before I post publicly. I will follow up here...
This. I understand if a dealership doesn’t want to sell a car because they won’t make money. But this isn’t about that. I’m not asking my dealer for the granger deal. I just want the chance for negotiation. If not give me x plan.
No kidding??!! So all of these potential issues you mentioned must be the result of one simple fact: “people hiding problems”.
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Ford... I'm not mad, just disappointed.
For me, the x plan was not so much the savings over MSRP, it was protection against unfair and unscrupulous hidden fees and greedy "documentation" and "dealer" fees. The trip into the finance manager's office is undoubtedly the worst part of the car buying process. I hate playing games. It's a huge waste of time. I have yet to buy from a dealer that does not do this to some degree.
I joined the DAV in part because they are an x plan partner. Will not being able to use the x plan prevent me from ordering a Bronco? No, but a dealer that decides to throw on an ADM or play stupid games will.
I find it hard to believe that Ford was not expecting this big of a demand for the Bronco. They teased it for what, 2 years? You can't stoke up demand and then fail to deliver. This reeks of gross mismanagement and poor foresight. I was really hoping Ford would of learned after the Explorer shitshow but it seems like they didn't learn a damn thing.
I was super stoked when I learned that they would be bringing the Bronco back. Hell, I remember being amazed with the Bronco concept in 2005 at the Midwest International Auto Show. My excitement has been seriously dampened by all of this fuckery. C'mon Ford, earn my business again.
For me, the x plan was not so much the savings over MSRP, it was protection against unfair and unscrupulous hidden fees and greedy "documentation" and "dealer" fees. The trip into the finance manager's office is undoubtedly the worst part of the car buying process. I hate playing games. It's a huge waste of time. I have yet to buy from a dealer that does not do this to some degree.
I joined the DAV in part because they are an x plan partner. Will not being able to use the x plan prevent me from ordering a Bronco? No, but a dealer that decides to throw on an ADM or play stupid games will.
I find it hard to believe that Ford was not expecting this big of a demand for the Bronco. They teased it for what, 2 years? You can't stoke up demand and then fail to deliver. This reeks of gross mismanagement and poor foresight. I was really hoping Ford would of learned after the Explorer shitshow but it seems like they didn't learn a damn thing.
I was super stoked when I learned that they would be bringing the Bronco back. Hell, I remember being amazed with the Bronco concept in 2005 at the Midwest International Auto Show. My excitement has been seriously dampened by all of this fuckery. C'mon Ford, earn my business again.
I think it’s funny that dealers will start playing the markup game. I’m coming to you saying that I will buy this vehicle. Take this information and enter into the system. Call me when it’s ready. No effort needs to be made to sell me on the vehicle. Cover your costs, make your profit, but don’t get greedy.
This is Jim Farleys way of raising profits. Tbh they wouldn’t be in so much of a bind if they didn’t invest such a large amount in a short period of time to restructure. They new cash flow would tighten from that, I know they didn’t expect COVID to happen but isn’t that part of risk management? So who should pay for their short sightedness? The loyal customers of course. I think when the reservations convert to orders they will be surprised is all I’ll say. They are basing everything off these reservations. They never learn. My new SRT car is going to be nice though.
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A tweet ny Mike and a text from some random salesperson are not definitive statements.This is from my local dealer. Originally, they said they did not know if X-plan would be available; but after Ford told dealers it would be, they sent me this.
Also, I am certain Ford (or Mike Levine) actually did say it would be available.
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