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If I don’t have a reservation at all, is there an advantage to getting an “order” in on a 2021 and then redoing the order for 2022 in a couple days when the new banks open? Will that keep me in front of any similar non-res 2022 orders that go in after the 2022 banks open?
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No, 2021 Order banks are closed.
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Snappy22 said:
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If I don’t have a reservation at all, is there an advantage to getting an “order” in on a 2021 and then redoing the order for 2022 in a couple days when the new banks open? Will that keep me in front of any similar non-res 2022 orders that go in after the 2022 banks open?
Thank you!

No, 2021 Order banks are closed.
I did just what was asked above: order a 2021 without a reservation when the "order banks were closed". I'm curious how my non-res order compares to the reservation process once it opens again in the coming months.

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Will I need to place a new order? - Yes, the Ford system does not allow us to just convert from a 2021 model year to a 2022 model year without any other changes. We have to initiate a new order as a 2022 and replicate your past options if no other changes are requested. I'd recommend you verify all the new options are correct and ask for an order summary for a 2022 build if you had a 2021

@[email protected] so if our order is not changing, will we have to place a new order? Nothing is changing on ours and our sales guy said if theres no change then it'll automatically convert into a 22 order.
This might be the only bullet point I disagree with. I've seen Ford go both ways on this even this year. If there is a compatibility error then yes whatever that seems to be would need to be addressed. For example when we had dual tops at the beginning this year and later that option was removed it put those orders into a compatibility hold until it was changed to a buildable unit. However I had explorers and super duties automatically get pushed to 2022s so the jury is out on that one. I still plan on contacting every single person with an unscheduled order to notify them of any new options or necessary changes to be made.

Also anyone know what happened this week at MAP? My personal Bronco was 102nd in line for 9/9 production and nothing has updated.. I heard a nasty rumor that they stopped production on the 8th mid way through the cycle waiting on modules, so anyone with more info would be appreciated. I have a Moab vacation coming up in October and it was set to be perfect timing so fingers crossed, but now I'm scared if it doesn't leave by this week I'll be devastated.
 

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@[email protected], As always, thanks for the update. Looking forward to re-entering my order to see what stays and what goes. May have to come back out and take the demos out again for a ride!
 

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@[email protected] : Do you know if Ford is going to try to provide a build estimate month/quarter for MY22 orders like they originally planned from MY21 orders? One would/could hope that after 6 months of production they might be able to provide at least an initial quarter for your build (and narrow it down as that quarter approaches). I'm assuming the answer is no, but had to ask.
 

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Again thanks Granger for keeping everyone informed. Too bad Ford can’t communicate with us directly. My guess is Ford will send me a $5 sticker some time in the spring as part of the compensation that is supposed to be up to a grand. Not holding my breath.
 

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@[email protected] : Do you know if Ford is going to try to provide a build estimate month/quarter for MY22 orders like they originally planned from MY21 orders? One would/could hope that after 6 months of production they might be able to provide at least an initial quarter for your build (and narrow it down as that quarter approaches). I'm assuming the answer is no, but had to ask.
My dealer says they can't gets chips for the computer that does the quarter build estimates.

But seriously, they did not do the estimates before because they did not want to spill the beans about the tops.

I have to assume there are still serious production problems we do not know about until we get quarter build estimates. Or else they should be able to narrow it down to a few month window.
 

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This might be the only bullet point I disagree with. I've seen Ford go both ways on this even this year. If there is a compatibility error then yes whatever that seems to be would need to be addressed. For example when we had dual tops at the beginning this year and later that option was removed it put those orders into a compatibility hold until it was changed to a buildable unit. However I had explorers and super duties automatically get pushed to 2022s so the jury is out on that one.
I agree, how could there possibly be continuity on order time stamp if it’s a net new record in the same system. Granted, a reservation would have a different record than an order, but a retail order would have a single record with a time stamp that wouldn’t have any connection to a new 22 order, would it?
 

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2021 model year has come and gone (mostly) and you've been left without a VIN and Bronco schedule date yet. We were intially allocated 203 Broncos for the model year, because of production delays we will end up receiving vins for roughly 75% of our original estimate. So don't fret, you are not alone! How do you prepare for 2022 MY Orders opening? Here's a few helpful tips to keep in mind.

Order of things to come
  1. The Order Guide will be released - This is our ordering 'gospel' if you will. There are lots of rumors of what will or will not be added to the 2022 Bronco options. If that option is not on the ordering guide it is not available. I'm sure it will be found online somewhere before I can find it, so please pour over it and finalize your options before calling your dealer.
  2. Ordering will be open in Conceps, then in WBDO. Be patient! - CONCEPS is a old computer system that you can back your way into in Ford's system and was used for years. For those of you who were born before millenials, you are more than familiar with how to navigate these screens. I am not. :) So ordering will open in conceps a day or two before, B6G members will rush like crazy to get your order placed, but the majority of orders will be placed in WBDO, it is a much easier system to navigate, you'll need to just wait a day or so.
  3. Order time doesn't determine scheduling - We should know this by now, but the time you place the order does not determine when your Bronco will be built. I'm not sure on the exact dates, but Ford has allowed a 30-60 day window to place your order. As long as you place your order in that timeframe, your reservation date will determine your priority, not your order date.
  4. Production start up - 2022 Bronco Production is slated to start in December. I, like all of you, am hoping for a smooth start up for 2022. Ford has prioritized chip availability, with MIC 2.0 solving top issues Ford should be able to belt out significantly more production for 2022 model year than 2021 (which was 6 months of production). Now we also live in a world where covid has hampered production for all manufacturers, so please keep that in mind.
  5. 2022 Bronco Delivery timeline to Dealers - With production starting in December 2021, January 2022 should be when dealers start to see their Broncos show up on the lot in volume. Keep in mind I've seen two different model years show up on the same transport. With the demand the Bronco has, anticipate Ford building as much as they can to satisfy the pent up demand and not a big wait from end of 2021 to beginning of 2022.
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Will I need to place a new order?
- Yes, the Ford system does not allow us to just convert from a 2021 model year to a 2022 model year without any other changes. We have to initiate a new order as a 2022 and replicate your past options if no other changes are requested. I'd recommend you verify all the new options are correct and ask for an order summary for a 2022 build if you had a 2021.

What about price protection? - If you have an order now your order will be price protected for 2022 as well. The key is your name and address need to match what is on your Ford account. If you switch trims, your price protection will still be okay. If Ford releases a new Edition (i.e. Raptor, Heritage, Etc.) you will pay whatever the new price is, there is no price protection on a new model, because it wasn't there for 2021. If you switch from a base to a big bend over the model year change, your pricing will be fine.

Will my dealer know their total allocation for 2022 MY? - It is my understanding that allocation for 2022 model year, while following the same/similar formula as 2021, will not be given out as a total year number in 2022. As I stated in the beginning of this post, we didn't receive our 2021 model year estimate because of delays. Taking it month-by-month like the traditional allocation system allows can help Ford adjust more quickly on the fly and dealerships will only know on a monthly basis what their allocation looks like.

Reservations versus new orders. What is the difference? - Ford has now stated that they are accepting new retail orders, but has temporarily suspended the reservation system. With such great demand, why would Ford allow new orders to be placed? If a dealer has exhausted their demand for Big Bend 4-doors and a new customer walks up and wants to place an order, this allows the dealer to place that order and the customer to receive production sooner. This does not allow a customer with the same exact order to leap frog a customer with a reservation for the exact same Bronco. Towards the end of 2022, while reservations are closed to exhausted, this will allow more customers to get the Bronco they want faster. Reservations > Retail Orders.

Should I forget about soft tops? - No!!! I still maintain that if you want your order ASAP order with a soft top. While I anticipate hard top production to pick up dramatically, the soft top will still be in less demand and if you equip your order with a soft top it will schedule more quickly. Unless you are a super early reservation holder that hasn't received their Bronco yet for 2021, I would not forget about the soft top to expedite orders.

In summary, I'm trying to remain optimistic as the 2022 model year order banks open up. The micro chip shortage is not going away anytime soon, that is going to be a battle that Ford fights all year. But I know they are prioritizing those supplies for the Bronco. Between that and a hard top fix, my hope is that Ford can build all they anticipate on a monthly basis and fill all existing reservation demand in 2022. That is my hope and I don't have any specific insight, but with customers backing out of reservations for various reasons and the shut off of new reservations, that number will continue to get smaller and smaller as the year goes on.

As always, we're very appreciative of everyone here and will do our best to help and assist anyone who has an existing reservation with us, another dealer, is considering transferring, or looking to place a fresh order. We're extremely grateful for the community @Administrator has built here and look forward to continue to contribute our little piece to make it better.

Granger Specific Customers - As a reminder, we do not participate in out of state leasing and courtesy deliveries at another dealership.
Good info, thanks for the update.
 
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Will I need to place a new order? - Yes, the Ford system does not allow us to just convert from a 2021 model year to a 2022 model year without any other changes. We have to initiate a new order as a 2022 and replicate your past options if no other changes are requested. I'd recommend you verify all the new options are correct and ask for an order summary for a 2022 build if you had a 2021

@[email protected] so if our order is not changing, will we have to place a new order? Nothing is changing on ours and our sales guy said if theres no change then it'll automatically convert into a 22 order.
You'll just need to confirm with your dealer they resubmitted the order as a 2022.
Even @[email protected] anticipates a Heritage Edition. I’m not going crazy here but for the love of things, please show us the special editions for MY2022.

Question: Any idea how limited run special editions are going to be reserved? I doubt it’s a simple call to @[email protected] when they are announced and I want to be sure I’m prepared.

Thanks for the update!

I have 0 solid information on that. So please don't use me as a reference.
Zack- will Granger be reaching out to current reservation order holders or should we call?
The best way to start the process would be to email [email protected] with your build and price. That would help us a lot!
Zach, something I have not understood from the outset. Let’s say a dealership has way more orders than their allocation. Example is dealer has 1200 orders and only gets 800 2022 allocations. And let’s say the person that is 900th in line at this dealership has a 7/30/20 reservation. Does that mean number 900 will not get their Bronco in 2022 no matter what and more specifically, does that mean someone else at another dealership with a later reservation (I.e. 8/30/20) will have their Bronco built first if they happen to be within their dealers allocations? In other words is it a disadvantage to have your order at a dealership that has way more orders then they do allocations? If any other members know the answers to these questions please respond as I am not sure Zach will be back in here and I don’t know how to @ him.
Well, we don't know annual allocation this time around so it's really a month to month thing.
 

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“For those of you who were born before millenials, you are more than familiar with how to navigate these screens. I am not. :)

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Should I forget about soft tops? - No!!! I still maintain that if you want your order ASAP order with a soft top. While I anticipate hard top production to pick up dramatically, the soft top will still be in less demand and if you equip your order with a soft top it will schedule more quickly. Unless you are a super early reservation holder that hasn't received their Bronco yet for 2021, I would not forget about the soft top to expedite orders.
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what do you consider to be a "super early reservation" that should hold out for a hard top? not sure of my number, but I am pretty sure it was 7/15 (3rd day of reservations) it may have been 7/14. I've changed my order to a softie, and have a build date, but not confident that happens..
 
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