Apple Carplay issues

[Essmith94]

And back to the ranch..... I have pretty much switched to "wired" carplay for the connectivity issues of it cutting out and freezing the system when I drive by specific spots on my commute. This does not solve the "nanny-state" issue of Apple and/or Sync trying to limit what you can be distracted by while driving. Hopefully... and yes Hope is a strategy... Sync will push an update that improves CarPlay performance. Now let me go hold my breath...

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[Havoc1]

Wow, well that was not a shot at you but for your piece of mind, I am not entitled, I work hard for my money and what I get. Most everything we have in the us is is actually a luxury including your Honda and the device you are typing on… give it a rest and stop hiding behind a blog. We pay for something it should preform as advertised/promised. I will not sit idly by with corporations making M/B and feel like I can demand what I purchased. This is a ford issue, I have had dozens upon dozens of vehicles at all price points that don’t have a single issue such as this. And I noted for iPhone. Not my problem if someone references other platforms…. I started this post!

I never took it as an attack, I stated that it has been an issue since sync came out did I not? I also mentioned that when ford finds a fix for it, it's only good until another update comes out for the phone and it starts over again.

"It's an endless cycle between Windows and Mac unfortunately " - me

Not once did I just blame Apple, nor did I just blame Ford.

2007 sync comes out
-Customer's state there's a problem
-Ford acknowledges problem
-Ford fixes problem
-Problem returns with new update
- Go back to step one and repeat

You are putting the blame solely on Ford not understanding how the system works. Windows, which is what sync is, and iOS do not like each other. The other vehicles you mentioned use Android based OS' which are better at communicating with other operating systems but still have there "glitches". Those "glitches" are why I mentioned my wife's vehicle to show that it's not just Ford like you're making it out to be.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you the one that mentioned other platforms first?
edit: So what if you're the op? You had an issue you weren't informed about, I tried to inform you. You didn't like my responce.

Bottom line Windows and iOS is almost like trying pairing an apple to an orange.

 

[Jmax]

I never took it as an attack, I stated that it has been an issue since sync came out did I not? I also mentioned that when ford finds a fix for it, it's only good until another update comes out for the phone and it starts over again.

"It's an endless cycle between Windows and Mac unfortunately " - me

Not once did I just blame Apple, nor did I just blame Ford.

2007 sync comes out
-Customer's state there's a problem
-Ford acknowledges problem
-Ford fixes problem
-Problem returns with new update
- Go back to step one and repeat

You are putting the blame solely on Ford not understanding how the system works. Windows, which is what sync is, and iOS do not like each other. The other vehicles you mentioned use Android based OS' which are better at communicating with other operating systems but still have there "glitches". Those "glitches" are why I mentioned my wife's vehicle to show that it's not just Ford like you're making it out to be.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you the one that mentioned other platforms first?
edit: So what if you're the op? You had an issue you weren't informed about, I tried to inform you. You didn't like my responce.

Bottom line Windows and iOS is almost like trying pairing an apple to an orange.

That’s fine, but can you explain why the same op/platform don’t have issue with all these other vehicles? I understand what you are saying but I don’t understand why this seems to be solely an issue with ford. Maybe my experience is an anomaly but others seem to have the same experience. Worse of all ford doesn’t seem to care, silence… hell I had to call 21 different dealers across the nation to find out if there is any reason I couldn’t drive without the beauty rings on which a receptionist answer I couldn’t which is when I gave up on that wild goose chase. So, is this sync the end of the world, no but ford has S the bed in so many ways I just can’t take it anymore but I will because I love the bronco… I just am hoping someone out there can either figure this out or get through to ford…

 

[Ksjrb03]

I never took it as an attack, I stated that it has been an issue since sync came out did I not? I also mentioned that when ford finds a fix for it, it's only good until another update comes out for the phone and it starts over again.

"It's an endless cycle between Windows and Mac unfortunately " - me

Not once did I just blame Apple, nor did I just blame Ford.

2007 sync comes out
-Customer's state there's a problem
-Ford acknowledges problem
-Ford fixes problem
-Problem returns with new update
- Go back to step one and repeat

You are putting the blame solely on Ford not understanding how the system works. Windows, which is what sync is, and iOS do not like each other. The other vehicles you mentioned use Android based OS' which are better at communicating with other operating systems but still have there "glitches". Those "glitches" are why I mentioned my wife's vehicle to show that it's not just Ford like you're making it out to be.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you the one that mentioned other platforms first?
edit: So what if you're the op? You had an issue you weren't informed about, I tried to inform you. You didn't like my responce.

Bottom line Windows and iOS is almost like trying pairing an apple to an orange.

Sync has not run on the Windows based OS for MANY years. Sync 3 and 4 run on a Blackberry OS.

 

[Ksjrb03]

That’s fine, but can you explain why the same op/platform don’t have issue with all these other vehicles? I understand what you are saying but I don’t understand why this seems to be solely an issue with ford. Maybe my experience is an anomaly but others seem to have the same experience. Worse of all ford doesn’t seem to care, silence… hell I had to call 21 different dealers across the nation to find out if there is any reason I couldn’t drive without the beauty rings on which a receptionist answer I couldn’t which is when I gave up on that wild goose chase. So, is this sync the end of the world, no but ford has S the bed in so many ways I just can’t take it anymore but I will because I love the bronco… I just am hoping someone out there can either figure this out or get through to ford…

I fully understand what you don’t like about CarPlay in your Bronco, but don’t understand what your expecting Ford to do about it. They have chosen to implement safety features available. The system works as intended, across the Ford lineup is the same.

 

[Aman]

Sync has not run on the Windows based OS for MANY years. Sync 3 and 4 run on a Blackberry OS.

LOL, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Sync 3 and 4 are based on QNX (Blackberry owned), not a Microsoft product.

 

[orion]

That’s fine, but can you explain why the same op/platform don’t have issue with all these other vehicles? I understand what you are saying but I don’t understand why this seems to be solely an issue with ford. Maybe my experience is an anomaly but others seem to have the same experience. Worse of all ford doesn’t seem to care, silence… hell I had to call 21 different dealers across the nation to find out if there is any reason I couldn’t drive without the beauty rings on which a receptionist answer I couldn’t which is when I gave up on that wild goose chase. So, is this sync the end of the world, no but ford has S the bed in so many ways I just can’t take it anymore but I will because I love the bronco… I just am hoping someone out there can either figure this out or get through to ford…

Because SYNC is a Windows based OS... Other manufacturers, as he mentioned, are Android based OS's. Carplay probably plays nicer with Android and not as nice with Windows.

P.S. Android Auto works flawlessly with SYNC from my experience.

P.S.S. I was not aware of the Blackberry OS. We all replied at the same time.

 

[MnLakeBum]

Ford dumped Windows in 2014 for BlackBerry’s QNX and starting in 2023, they are rolling out Google’s Android and phasing out QNX. It should make for a lot of glitchy infotainment in Ford vehicles and confusion with software updates at the dealerships for the foreseeable future, lol.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-sync-google-android-blackberry-qnx-infotainment/

 

[RedolentSurge]

I would think that CarPlay would be a universally standard experience, by that I mean regardless of what brand/type of vehicle one has the experience would be the same. My bmw x7 does not have all these issues or requirements.

Wireless CarPlay in my wife’s ‘21 Tahoe limits Spotify playlists/content/options. I just assumed this was a Spotify-specific issue.

 

[Ksjrb03]

Wireless CarPlay in my wife’s ‘21 Tahoe limits Spotify playlists/content/options. I just assumed this was a Spotify-specific issue.

It’s not really an issue. The intention is for you to use the voice assistant when the steering wheel button is available vs scrolling on the screen when driving.

 

[Havoc1]

I'll just leave this here...

https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/f...ndroid-operating-system-starting-in-2023/amp/

 

[Aman]

I'll just leave this here...

https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/f...ndroid-operating-system-starting-in-2023/amp/

Correct...Windows Embedded through Sync 2.x. Then they switched to QNX.

 

[Southern Girl]

And back to the ranch..... I have pretty much switched to "wired" carplay for the connectivity issues of it cutting out and freezing the system when I drive by specific spots on my commute. This does not solve the "nanny-state" issue of Apple and/or Sync trying to limit what you can be distracted by while driving. Hopefully... and yes Hope is a strategy... Sync will push an update that improves CarPlay performance. Now let me go hold my breath...

Sadly, that does not work for me. Sync even disconnects my bluetooth for some unknown reason any time I get in one spot of my commute to work. That one spot is the only place it happens. I can see a tower from where I am driving, but I get very little signal. How is the bluetooth disabled for sync just because I have low signal from a tower?

 

[MnLakeBum]

I'll just leave this here...



https://fordauthority.com/2021/02/f...ndroid-operating-system-starting-in-2023/amp/

Ford made the decision to ditch windows in 2014 for BlackBerry’s QNX. They are now making the shift to Android Automotive, not to be confused with Android Auto. This war between competing imbedded software in the automotive world is going through a lot of changes right now with Linux, QNX, and Android Automotive all battling it out.

Many vehicles are still very buggy with their infotainment systems and don’t always integrate with the Android and Apple smartphone OS.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...-based-infotainment-to-adopt-blackberry-unit/

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/0...os-review-under-the-hood-with-googles-car-os/

 

[Havoc1]

Ford made the decision to ditch windows in 2014 for BlackBerry’s QNX. They are now making the shift to Android Automotive, not to be confused with Android Auto. This war between competing imbedded software in the automotive world is going through a lot of changes right now with Linux, QNX, and Android Automotive all battling it out.

Many vehicles are still very buggy with their infotainment systems and don’t always integrate with the Android and Apple smartphone OS.


https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a...-based-infotainment-to-adopt-blackberry-unit/

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/0...os-review-under-the-hood-with-googles-car-os/

People keep saying the Fords dumped windows for blackberry in 2014. I'm not disagreeing with you all, since Ford was trying to figure a solution to combat the compatibility problems.

The thing is, every time I would be uploading software to the APIM, or even just reseting the APIM, it would still say "Microsoft" not "Blackberry" or "QNX". This is all the way up until Sync3, post all the articles you want from the internet but it still showed "Microsoft" all the way up until I left Ford in 2018, and I was a tech for them 20yrs when I left.

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